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Don't forget that if your dad doesn't qualify for Surviving Spouse status, Head of Household might still be better than Single! Even if you don't qualify as his dependent, does he support anyone else who might qualify? The tax rate differences between Single and Head of Household can be significant. Also check whether he qualifies for the Credit for Other Dependents ($500) for supporting you, even if you don't meet all the tests to be a qualifying child or qualifying relative. The income limits for this are different from the dependency requirements!
No, it's just me and him in the house. I didn't realize there might be a partial credit even if I'm not a full dependent. Do you know what the income threshold is for that $500 credit? I made about $24,000 last year if that helps.
This is a good point - my sister didn't qualify as a dependent because of her income, but I still got a partial credit for supporting her. The tax preparer explained that the rules for the Credit for Other Dependents were different than full dependency claims.
I'm sorry for your dad's loss. Based on what you've described, your dad unfortunately won't qualify for Qualifying Surviving Spouse status. The key issue is that you don't meet the requirements to be his qualifying dependent - since you're over 18, not a full-time student, and earned more than the $4,400 threshold, you can't help him qualify for this beneficial filing status. However, don't overlook some potential benefits! Even though you're not a qualifying dependent, your dad might still be eligible for the Credit for Other Dependents ($500) if he provided more than half of your support during the year. The income limits for this credit are more generous - you can earn significantly more than $4,400 and he can still claim it. Also, make sure to double-check if there are any other potential dependents in his situation. Sometimes people forget about elderly parents they support or other relatives who might qualify. If he does have another qualifying dependent, that could open up Head of Household filing status, which has better tax rates than Single. The tax software confusion you mentioned is common - many programs don't clearly explain the "why" behind these dependency rules, especially for blended families with stepchildren.
tried that but cant make sense of all those codes tbh
thats why i use taxr.ai now, it explains everything in plain english
I'm in the exact same situation! Filed on 2/28 and still getting that "still being processed" message on WMR. It's so frustrating seeing some people who filed around the same time already getting their refunds while we're stuck waiting. I've been trying not to check it obsessively but it's hard when you're expecting that money. At least we know we're not alone in this - seems like a lot of late February filers are still waiting. Hopefully we'll see some movement soon! š¤
Same here! Filed 2/26 and still stuck on that processing message. It's driving me crazy seeing people who filed after me already getting their refunds while we're still waiting. The uncertainty is the worst part - like are we delayed for a reason or just unlucky with timing? At least there's some comfort knowing we're all in this together! š
The TurboTax advance works differently than the actual IRS refund process. Unlike H&R Block which requires IRS acceptance first, TurboTax makes their decision based on their own risk assessment immediately after you submit. For amended returns, they're more cautious since those have higher scrutiny rates from the IRS. Check your TurboTax messages section - that's where approval notifications appear first.
Just to add to what others have said - I had an amended return situation last year and TurboTax did approve me for the advance, but it took about 48 hours instead of the usual 24. They were more conservative with the amount too (only advanced about 40% of my expected refund). The key thing is that their decision is completely independent of IRS processing. Even if your return gets delayed or questioned by the IRS later, you still keep the advance money. Make sure to check both your TurboTax account dashboard AND your email (including spam) for the decision notification!
This is really helpful info! I'm in a similar boat with an amended return and desperately need that advance money. Did you have to provide any additional documentation when you applied with the amended return, or was the process exactly the same? Also wondering if the 48-hour timeline you mentioned is pretty standard for amended returns or if some people wait even longer?
Is there any minimum amount of freelance income needed to qualify for QBI? I only made about $3,000 from my side gig last year but would love to get that 20% deduction.
There's no minimum income requirement to qualify for the QBI deduction! Your $3,000 in freelance income would be eligible for the 20% deduction, giving you about $600 off your taxable income. It's not a huge amount but definitely worth claiming. The main requirements are that it's qualified business income (which freelance work on a 1099-NEC typically is) and that you're under the income thresholds (which at $3,000 you definitely are). Make sure you're reporting it on Schedule C even for that small amount.
Thanks everyone for the detailed responses! This is super helpful. I'm definitely going to file an amended return for 2023 to claim the QBI I missed. One follow-up question - when I amend my return, do I need to include any special documentation to support the QBI deduction, or is having the 1099-NEC sufficient? I want to make sure I have everything properly documented in case the IRS has questions later. Also, for anyone else in a similar situation, it sounds like the key points are: 1) Freelance income on 1099-NEC typically qualifies for QBI, 2) No minimum income threshold, 3) You don't need a formal business registration, and 4) It only reduces income tax, not self-employment tax. Did I miss anything important?
Dmitry Volkov
Another household employer here! We've had a nanny for 3 years now. One thing to consider is your nanny's perspective in all this. If you don't withhold, your nanny will be hit with a huge tax bill at the end of the year (self-employment tax is about 15.3%). Most professional nannies now expect proper payroll and will actually appreciate you doing things right. It makes it easier for them to qualify for apartments, car loans, etc. We found it helped us attract and keep a better nanny by being a legit employer.
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StarSeeker
ā¢Does proper payroll mean you have to pay them via check instead of Venmo/Zelle? Our sitter really prefers electronic payment.
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PixelPioneer
I'm also a first-time household employer and went through this exact same confusion last year! One thing that really helped me was understanding that you have two separate obligations: employment taxes (which you MUST handle) and income tax withholding (which is optional but recommended). Here's what I learned the hard way: **Required:** - Social Security and Medicare taxes (you pay half, nanny pays half - total 15.3%) - Federal unemployment tax (FUTA) - you pay this, not the nanny - State unemployment tax (varies by state) - Workers' compensation insurance (check your state requirements) **Optional but helpful:** - Federal income tax withholding (makes life easier for your nanny) The key insight for me was that even if you don't withhold income taxes, you still have to handle all the employment taxes. You can't just "let her handle everything" - that would make her a contractor, not an employee, which has different (and stricter) IRS tests. I ended up using a payroll service after trying to DIY the first quarter and making mistakes. The peace of mind was worth the monthly cost, especially since penalties for getting household employment taxes wrong can be steep. Also, keep detailed records of everything - wages paid, dates, hours worked. You'll need this for Schedule H and your nanny's W-2.
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Freya Nielsen
ā¢This is such a helpful breakdown! I'm also new to being a household employer and had no idea about the distinction between employment taxes (required) vs income tax withholding (optional). That clears up so much confusion for me. Quick question - when you say "stricter IRS tests" for contractor vs employee classification, what are the main things they look at? I want to make sure I'm not accidentally treating our nanny as a contractor when she should be classified as an employee. Also, did you find any particular payroll service worked better than others for household employees? The monthly cost seems reasonable if it prevents penalties and saves time on all the paperwork.
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