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Tyrone Hill

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Friendly reminder that if you do make decent money from this, you should consider making quarterly estimated tax payments! When I started my Etsy shop, I didn't know this and got hit with a penalty the first year. Self-employment income gets taxed at about 15.3% for the self-employment tax portion (Medicare/Social Security) on top of regular income tax. So definitely set aside more than you think you'll need.

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Is there a minimum you need to earn before you have to make quarterly payments? I make like $200-300 a month from my side gig and have just been reporting it yearly.

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Asher Levin

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Generally, you need to make quarterly payments if you expect to owe $1,000 or more in taxes when you file your return. For someone making $200-300 a month ($2,400-$3,600 annually), you'd probably want to start considering quarterly payments since the self-employment tax alone would be around $367-$551. The IRS safe harbor rule says you won't get penalized if you pay at least 90% of the current year's tax liability OR 100% of last year's tax liability (110% if your prior year AGI was over $150k). So if you're just starting out and didn't have self-employment income last year, you might be okay waiting until annual filing, but it's safer to make quarterly payments once you're consistently earning. You can make estimated payments online through the IRS Direct Pay system - it's pretty straightforward once you get the hang of it.

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Darcy Moore

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Just wanted to add - you mentioned you're 18 and your mom helps with taxes. Since you're legally an adult, you have the right to file your taxes independently if you want privacy. You could tell her you want to learn to do them yourself this year for experience, or that your taxes are getting more complicated with multiple income sources. If you do file independently, make sure you understand whether you can still be claimed as a dependent on her return (usually yes if she provides more than half your support and you're under 24 and a student, or under 19 otherwise). Being a dependent affects some of your tax benefits but doesn't change your obligation to report all income. Also, when you report self-employment income on Schedule C, you can be very generic with the business description. "Online digital content sales" or "freelance digital media" are perfectly acceptable and don't reveal specifics about what you're selling. The IRS cares about the money, not the details of your business model.

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Yuki Sato

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This is really good advice about filing independently! I'm actually in a similar situation where I want more privacy with my taxes. One thing I'd add is that if you do decide to file on your own, you might want to start the conversation with your mom early - like mention that you want to learn to be more independent with financial stuff in general. That way it doesn't seem sudden when tax season comes around. Also, even if you file independently, make sure you coordinate with your mom about the dependent status thing. You don't want to both claim something that conflicts on your returns. The IRS will definitely notice that and send letters to both of you asking for clarification, which would defeat the whole privacy purpose. The generic business descriptions are clutch too. "Digital content creation" sounds way more professional than trying to explain exactly what kind of content you're making!

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Maya Diaz

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For your sister's situation, here's what the IRS told me when I called about my Scentsy 1099-MISC last year: If Line 3 is for prizes, awards, or incentive payments related to your sales activity, it still goes on Schedule C but on Line 6 (Other business income). This keeps it associated with your business but separates it from your main nonemployee compensation. The most important thing is to make sure your self-employment tax calculation only includes the Line 7 amount, not the Line 3 amount.

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Tami Morgan

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Does this change if you get a 1099-NEC instead of a 1099-MISC? My understanding is most companies switched to using 1099-NEC for nonemployee compensation but might still issue 1099-MISC for other types of payments.

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Maya Diaz

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Great question. If you get a 1099-NEC, that form is only for nonemployee compensation (what used to be on Line 7 of 1099-MISC). That amount always goes on Schedule C and is subject to self-employment tax. If you also get a 1099-MISC with Box 3 amounts, the reporting instructions I mentioned still apply. The IRS made this change in 2020 to separate the two types of payments, partly because they have different filing deadlines and tax treatments. So if you're getting both forms, the company is doing it correctly - using 1099-NEC for your regular business income and 1099-MISC for other payments like prizes or awards.

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Rami Samuels

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I'm a bit late to the discussion, but I want to add that this whole thing depends on WHAT the Line 3 payment actually is. I had a similar situation with my Tupperware business where Line 3 was for a referral bonus. In that specific case, my tax preparer put it on Schedule C but made sure to mark it as "not subject to self-employment tax" by making an adjustment on Schedule SE. She said different types of "other income" might be handled differently, so knowing exactly what the payment was for is crucial.

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This is confusing me more tbh. How do you mark something as "not subject to self-employment tax" on Schedule SE? I thought if income was on Schedule C, it automatically gets included in SE calculations?

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Dmitri Volkov

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dont get ur hopes up about updates. been stuck on the same message since february lmaoooo

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same boat fam... same boat 😭

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Arjun Kurti

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I had this exact same issue last week! The "daily limit" error is super frustrating when you know you only tried once. What worked for me was logging out of the IRS website completely (if you had it open), clearing all browser cookies for IRS.gov, then waiting about 30 minutes before trying the app again. The system seems to share login attempt counters between the website and app, so even having the website open in a browser tab can sometimes trigger this. Also make sure you're using the exact same credentials - any typos count as failed attempts too.

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Anna Xian

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This is super helpful! I didn't realize browser cookies could affect the app too. Definitely going to try the 30 minute wait trick - thanks for the detailed explanation! šŸ™

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IRS Exam Code 420 on Transcript: Head of Household Return with $9,785 Refund Under Review?

I checked my transcript today and I see that my refund has examination code 420 on it from February 21, 2025. Looking at the detailed transcript, it shows my return was filed as Head of Household with 4 exemptions. My AGI is $25,611.00 and taxable income of $3,711.00. No tax due per the return - it literally shows "TAX PER RETURN: 0.00" on the transcript. The transcript contains this information: ** INFORMATION FROM THE RETURN OR AS ADJUSTED ** EXEMPTIONS: 04 FILING STATUS: Head of Household ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME: $25,611.00 TAXABLE INCOME: $3,711.00 TAX PER RETURN: $0.00 SE TAXABLE INCOME TAXPAYER: $0.00 SE TAXABLE INCOME SPOUSE: $0.00 TOTAL SELF EMPLOYMENT TAX: $0.00 RETURN DUE DATE OR RETURN RECEIVED DATE (WHICHEVER IS LATER) Apr. 15, 2025 PROCESSING DATE Mar. 10, 2025 In the TRANSACTIONS section, I see: CODE EXPLANATION OF TRANSACTION - CYCLE - DATE - AMOUNT 150 Tax return filed - 20250805 - 03-10-2025 - $0.00 70221-437-71266-5 806 W-2 or 1099 withholding - 04-15-2025 - -$37.00 766 Credit to your account - 04-15-2025 - -$3,400.00 768 Earned income credit - 04-15-2025 - -$6,348.00 810 Refund freeze - 03-10-2025 - $0.00 811 Removed refund freeze - 03-10-2025 - $0.00 570 Additional account action pending - 03-10-2025 - $0.00 971 Notice issued - 03-10-2025 - $0.00 971 Notice issued - 03-10-2025 - $0.00 420 Examination of tax return - 02-21-2025 - $0.00 There's code 570 (additional account action pending) and two 971 notices issued on March 10. The refund amount includes my withholding ($37) plus EIC ($6,348) and another credit ($3,400). I see there was a refund freeze code 810 that was removed same day (code 811). Does this mean my return is under audit? Haven't received any notices in the mail yet and the WMR tool still says processing. My refund is pretty important to me this year so I'm getting worried about how long this might take. Anyone seen this before or know what I should expect next?

Isn't it CRAZY that we pay taxes but then have to become detectives to figure out what's happening with our own money? The whole system is so broken. Good luck OP, hope you get your refund soon! šŸ™

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Mia Green

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And god forbid if WE make a mistake, we get penalties and interest. But when THEY take 9 months to process a return? "Sorry for the inconvenience" šŸ™„

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Emma Bianchi

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Exactly why I finally started using taxr.ai - I got tired of playing detective every time I checked my transcript. The tool actually explains everything in plain English! https://taxr.ai

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Yuki Tanaka

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I went through this exact same situation last year with code 420 on my transcript. The waiting is absolutely the worst part because you have no idea how long it's going to take. In my case, I had to provide school enrollment records and medical records showing my kids lived with me for more than half the year to verify my Head of Household status and EIC eligibility. The good news is that if you legitimately qualify for everything you claimed, you'll eventually get your full refund. The bad news is it can take anywhere from 45 days to 4+ months depending on how quickly you respond and how backed up they are. Start gathering your documentation now - anything that shows your dependents lived with you (school records, medical bills, daycare statements, etc.) so you're ready when that notice arrives. And definitely keep checking your transcript for updates because sometimes the codes change before you even get the letter in the mail. Hang in there! The IRS bureaucracy is frustrating but most of these reviews do get resolved in the taxpayer's favor eventually.

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Hugo Kass

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Pro tip: Switch to a different tax service next year! I used H&R Block for years and had nothing but problems the last two tax seasons. Their software has gotten buggy and their customer service keeps getting worse. I switched to FreeTaxUSA this year and it was WAY better - they actually prompted me for my IP PIN right upfront and the whole process was smoother.

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I've heard good things about FreeTaxUSA but doesn't it lack some features the paid services have? Did you miss any deductions or credits that H&R Block would have caught?

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Hugo Kass

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I was worried about that too, but I actually found FreeTaxUSA to be more thorough with questions about potential deductions and credits than H&R Block was. The interface is less flashy but more straightforward. They asked about things H&R never prompted me for, like specific state tax credits I qualified for. The federal filing is free, and I only paid $15 for state filing (compared to $50+ with H&R Block). I didn't find any missing features that affected my return, and their help resources were surprisingly good. For most standard tax situations, I think the premium services are overcharging for what you get.

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Sienna Gomez

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This is such a common issue this year! I had almost the exact same experience with TurboTax - their system showed my return as "transmitted" but the IRS had actually rejected it due to my IP PIN. The communication between tax software companies and the IRS seems to have some serious lag issues this filing season. What really helped me was calling the IRS early in the morning (around 7 AM) when they first open. The hold times are much shorter then. You can also check your actual filing status directly on the IRS website using their "Where's My Refund" tool - it'll show you the real status from their end, not what H&R Block thinks. Once you get your IP PIN sorted out and refile, the process should go smoothly. It's frustrating that H&R Block's system doesn't handle this better, especially since IP PINs are becoming so much more common. Good luck getting it resolved!

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