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CosmicCadet

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Anyone else remember the old days when we had to actually mail paper returns with a postmark by midnight? I once drove to the post office at 11:45pm on April 15th and there was a line of cars around the block! Now we're all stressing about electronic timestamps lol.

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Chloe Harris

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Omg yes! I remember the postal workers would be standing outside collecting tax returns right at midnight. They'd even stamp them right there in front of you so you knew you made the deadline. Those were the days!

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Don't panic! You're almost certainly fine. The IRS uses your local time zone for the filing deadline, so if you submitted at 11:23pm Pacific Time on April 15th, you made the deadline with 37 minutes to spare. The April 16th date on your confirmation is likely just because the tax prep service's servers are running on Eastern Time (where it was already past midnight when you filed). What matters to the IRS is the actual electronic submission timestamp with your local time zone info, not what's displayed on the confirmation page. If you want peace of mind, you can check your "Where's My Refund" status on the IRS website in a few days - once it shows up there, you'll know your return was accepted and processed normally. But based on what you've described, you should be all set!

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Has anyone actually gotten audited for small theatre production income? I'm in a similar situation and wondering how detailed the IRS actually gets with these small creative projects.

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I had a review (not a full audit) of my theatre income 2 years ago. They mainly wanted documentation for the larger expenses. They didn't question the under-$600 payments to performers that didn't have 1099s, but they did want to see proof that I made those payments (canceled checks, venmo receipts, etc). Just keep good records and you should be fine!

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Thank you for sharing that experience! That's really helpful to know. I've been keeping my bank statements and payment receipts, but I should probably organize them better. Did they ask for any kind of written agreements with the performers or was proof of payment enough?

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Lilah Brooks

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This is exactly the kind of situation where keeping meticulous records from day one makes all the difference! I learned this the hard way after my first indie film project where I had similar income/expense confusion. One thing I don't see mentioned yet - make sure you're tracking your expenses by category that align with Schedule C categories. The IRS has specific line items for things like "advertising and promotion," "contract labor," "office expenses," etc. When you're organizing your theatre expenses, try to fit them into these standard categories rather than just lumping everything together as "production costs." Also, since this was your first time producing, you might want to consider whether this was a one-time thing or if you're planning to do more productions. If it's going to be ongoing, you should think about setting up proper business record-keeping from the start. It makes everything so much easier come tax time, and it shows the IRS that you're treating this as a legitimate business rather than just a hobby. The profit-sharing arrangement with the partner theatre is definitely deductible as you've been told, but document the business purpose clearly. Keep any emails, contracts, or written agreements that show this was a legitimate business arrangement, not just splitting money with friends.

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If anyone else is confused about timezones like me, I found that most tax software automatically adjusts for your timezone based on your location. I used TurboTax last year and it showed a countdown timer with my local deadline. Just make sure your address info is correct in the software!

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Just be extra careful with this. I used TaxAct last year and their system crashed around 10pm on deadline day. I ended up having to use FreeTaxUSA at the last minute and barely made it.

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Amina Bah

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Great question about time zones! As someone who's dealt with this exact situation before, I can confirm that Carmen is absolutely right - it's based on your current legal residence, not where your income was earned. Since you're living in Colorado, your deadline is 11:59 PM Mountain Time on October 15th. One thing I'd add is to double-check that your current address is correctly listed on your tax return, since that's what the IRS uses to determine your time zone. Also, given that you're cutting it close, I'd strongly recommend not waiting until the very last minute on Tuesday evening. The e-filing systems can get overwhelmed on deadline day, and if there are any technical issues or if your return gets rejected for any reason, you might not have time to fix it and resubmit. Maybe consider trying to wrap it up during your lunch break or earlier in the evening if possible? Better safe than sorry with the IRS!

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One little tip that saved me when I had to paper file: If you use tax software to prepare your return but then print it for mailing, make sure you sign the physical form with pen! The software obviously can't sign for you, and an unsigned return will get rejected or severely delayed. Sounds obvious but I made this mistake once and it delayed my refund by months.

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Mei Zhang

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Should you use blue ink specifically? I heard somewhere the IRS prefers blue ink for signatures because it makes it easier to tell originals from copies.

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I totally understand the anxiety about paper filing - I went through the same thing a couple years ago when I had issues with my e-file! One thing that really helped me was creating a simple checklist before mailing everything. Here's what worked for me: 1. Print your completed forms (Form 1040 + any schedules you need) 2. Attach your W-2 to the front of Form 1040 (use the actual W-2, not a copy) 3. Sign and date in blue or black ink - don't forget this step! 4. Make copies of everything for your records before sealing the envelope 5. Use the correct IRS processing center address for your state (check IRS.gov) 6. Send via certified mail with return receipt requested The waiting is honestly the worst part - paper returns do take 6-8 weeks minimum, sometimes longer. But once you get that tracking confirmation showing it was delivered, you can relax knowing you did everything right. You've got this! The fact that you're being so careful about getting it right means you're probably going to do just fine.

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I'm jumping in late to this conversation, but wanted to share that I just went through this exact scenario last month. Small partnership investment, tiny loss (mine was -$23), and TurboTax throwing the Form 8990 warning at me. After reading through all the helpful advice here, I followed the steps everyone outlined: checked Box 20 (no Code AH), contacted my partnership to confirm their small business election status, and then confidently overrode TurboTax's warning. My return was e-filed and accepted without any issues. What really struck me is how this thread demonstrates the value of community knowledge over just blindly following tax software warnings. The software is designed to be cautious, but sometimes that caution creates unnecessary stress for situations that clearly don't warrant it. A $16.50 loss triggering business interest expense limitation forms is the perfect example of when human judgment needs to override algorithmic warnings. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - it's exactly this kind of practical advice that helps newcomers navigate tax season without losing their minds over software glitches!

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This is such a perfect summary of the whole situation! I'm new to dealing with K-1s and partnership investments, and honestly, when TurboTax started throwing Form 8990 warnings at me, I panicked thinking I was missing something major. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been incredibly reassuring. It's fascinating how tax software can create so much anxiety over what turns out to be a non-issue. Your point about human judgment overriding algorithmic warnings really resonates with me - sometimes common sense needs to prevail over what the software thinks is required. A loss under $25 triggering complex business interest limitation forms does seem pretty absurd when you step back and think about it. I'm definitely bookmarking this thread for future reference. The step-by-step approach everyone has outlined (check Box 20, confirm partnership election status, override if exempt) is going to save me so much stress if I encounter this again next year. Thanks for sharing your successful resolution - it gives me confidence to move forward with my own similar situation!

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Nalani Liu

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I'm a tax preparer and see this Form 8990 confusion constantly with small partnership investors. Your situation is textbook exempt - with only a $16.50 loss and no Code AH in Box 20 of your K-1, you absolutely do not need to file Form 8990. The business interest expense limitation (Section 163(j)) was enacted to prevent large corporations from over-leveraging, not to catch small investors with minimal losses. Think about it logically - what business interest expense could possibly be limited on a $16.50 loss? Here's my professional advice: Override TurboTax's warning and e-file. The software is being overly cautious because it sees a K-1 and defaults to assuming complex forms might be needed. But the IRS instructions are clear - without Code AH checked and with such a minimal amount, you're exempt. If you're still nervous, print out the Form 8990 instructions and read the exemptions section. You'll see that your situation clearly falls under multiple exemptions. Don't let tax software create stress over something that's a complete non-issue for your tax situation.

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Emma Morales

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Thank you so much for the professional perspective! As someone who's completely new to K-1s and partnership investments, having a tax preparer confirm that this is a common issue is incredibly reassuring. Your point about thinking logically - what business interest expense could possibly be limited on a $16.50 loss - really puts things in perspective. I appreciate the advice to actually read through the Form 8990 instructions and exemptions section. Sometimes when tax software starts throwing warnings, it's easy to assume you're missing something complex, but it sounds like the IRS instructions would make it pretty clear that my situation is exempt. Your comment about the software being overly cautious because it sees a K-1 makes perfect sense. It's probably programmed to flag potential issues rather than analyze whether those issues actually apply to the specific situation. I feel much more confident about overriding the warning and moving forward with e-filing now. Thanks for taking the time to provide professional guidance to help us small investors navigate this confusion!

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