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I'm so sorry you're dealing with this during health issues! Just to clarify one thing - the "as of" date on your transcript doesn't necessarily mean that's when it was last updated. It's actually a forward-looking date that the IRS system uses for processing purposes. So seeing April 17th with zeros doesn't mean nothing has happened since then - it's just how their system displays information during processing. I was absolutely devastated when I was in your position last year, but my refund did eventually come through after about 6 weeks post-verification. Hang in there! šŸ’•

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NebulaNomad

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I completely understand your frustration with the all-zeros transcript situation! I went through ID.me verification about 8 months ago and had the exact same experience. The zeros showing on your transcript is actually a good sign - it means your return was received and is being held for identity verification, which you've now completed successfully. From my experience, the transcript won't show any movement until the verification fully processes through their system, then everything updates at once. The 1.5-2 week timeframe the IRS gave you is pretty standard, though it can sometimes take a bit longer depending on their current workload. One thing that helped me during the wait was knowing that once the transcript does update, the refund usually follows within a few days if you have direct deposit set up. I know it's especially stressful when you're dealing with medical expenses, but try to hang in there - the system just moves slowly but it does work eventually. Keep checking that transcript every few days and you should see movement soon! šŸ¤ž

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Has anyone used TurboTax to input the PMI for a rental? I'm trying to figure out where exactly to put this and whether TurboTax automatically puts it on the right line of Schedule E or if I need to manually override something?

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Carmen Vega

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In TurboTax, when you get to the rental property section, there's a specific question about insurance expenses. Make sure you include your PMI there along with your regular homeowners insurance. TurboTax will automatically put it on line 9 of Schedule E. Don't enter it as part of your mortgage interest or you'll have it in the wrong spot.

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Alana Willis

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with the same situation - converted my primary residence to a rental last year and have been paying PMI the whole time. It's reassuring to see multiple confirmations that this is definitely deductible on Schedule E, line 9. One thing I'd add for anyone in a similar boat: make sure you check if your loan servicer is automatically including the PMI in your 1098 mortgage interest statement. Mine was lumping it all together, which made it confusing when trying to separate the actual mortgage interest from the PMI for tax purposes. I had to call them to get a breakdown so I could properly allocate each expense to the correct line on Schedule E. Also, if you're like me and missed claiming this deduction in previous years, it's definitely worth looking into filing amended returns. The three-year statute of limitations means you can still claim refunds for 2021, 2022, and 2023 if you didn't properly deduct your rental PMI.

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I just searched through 3 different tax textbooks and NONE of them had a simple name for this stupid tax thing. How are regular people supposed to understand the tax code when even the "simplified" explanations are so complicated? And why does rental property depreciation get a special 25% rate anyway? Regular income can be taxed much higher, and normal capital gains much lower. The whole system seems designed to be confusing on purpose.

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Lara Woods

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The 25% rate actually makes sense when you understand the history. Before 1997, all depreciation recapture was taxed as ordinary income (up to 39.6%). The current system with the 25% rate was actually meant as a compromise - lower than ordinary income rates but higher than the preferential capital gains rates. The logic is that depreciation deductions reduced your ordinary income tax while you owned the property, so the government wants some of that back when you sell, but they're giving you a break by capping it at 25% instead of your full marginal rate.

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As someone who just went through this exact same confusion last year, I feel your pain! I ended up calling it "the rental property tax penalty" when explaining it to my family, which isn't technically accurate but gets the point across. What really helped me understand it was thinking of it this way: every year you owned that rental, you got to deduct depreciation from your taxes (whether you actually claimed it or not). That saved you money on your tax bill each year. Now when you sell at a profit, the IRS is basically saying "hey, remember all that money we let you save on taxes? We want a piece of that back." The 25% rate is actually better than if they taxed it as regular income (which could be much higher), but worse than regular capital gains rates. It's like a middle-ground compromise. For explaining to your spouse, I found it easiest to say: "It's a special tax on the depreciation benefits we got while owning the rental." Much simpler than the full legal terminology!

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Chloe Zhang

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Based on what you're describing, I'd suggest a different approach than constantly checking WMR and transcripts. In my experience with similar situations over the past few tax seasons, the most productive thing to do is to set up Direct Deposit alerts with your bank. Last year, I had a client whose WMR never updated beyond "processing" and whose transcript remained blank except for address updates - yet their refund deposited without warning. The IRS systems don't always communicate effectively with each other or with the public-facing tools. I'd also recommend checking your state tax refund status if applicable - sometimes state refunds will process even while federal returns are still pending, which can provide some financial relief while waiting. The address update and "as of" date change are positive indicators that your return is in the system and being processed, not rejected or lost.

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I'm going through almost the exact same thing! Filed about 3 weeks ago, had to verify my identity online (couldn't get an in-person appointment), and my transcript is showing the same pattern - address updated, "as of" date changed from 2/24 to 3/10, but completely blank otherwise. What's really frustrating is that my WMR has been stuck on "Your return is being processed" this entire time with no changes whatsoever. I keep refreshing it like it's going to magically update, but nothing. The one thing that's giving me some hope after reading through all these responses is that the address update seems to be a good sign that our returns are actually in the system and moving through the process, even if we can't see the progress. Has anyone noticed if there's a typical timeframe between when the "as of" date changes and when you start seeing actual codes populate on your transcript? I'm trying to manage my expectations here since I also budgeted around getting this refund soon. Thanks for posting this - it's reassuring to know I'm not the only one dealing with this limbo situation!

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Whatever you do, DON'T ignore this notice! I made that mistake thinking it was an error that would fix itself, and ended up with wage garnishment. Even if you're disputing the amount, make sure to respond to the CP22A within the timeframe listed on the notice.

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100% this. You can also file Form 12153 Request for Collection Due Process Hearing which puts collections on hold while you work it out. That's what I did when I got hit with a similar notice claiming I owed $5k. Bought me time to get everything sorted without penalties continuing to accrue.

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This situation is really concerning, especially since you never filed any carryback forms. I went through something similar last year when the IRS claimed I owed money for amendments I never made. A few things to prepare for your Monday call: 1. Have your 2019 tax return copy ready, along with proof of your original $19,500 payment 2. Get that account transcript @Lena mentioned - it's crucial for understanding the timeline 3. Ask the IRS rep to provide the exact date and method of how this carryback claim was supposedly filed 4. Request they mail you a complete copy of whatever carryback form they have on file The fact that they "lost" your original return and now this mysterious claim appeared is a major red flag. Document everything during your call - date, time, representative ID, and exactly what they tell you. If they can't provide concrete proof of when and how you filed this carryback claim, you have grounds to dispute it. Don't let them pressure you into paying immediately. You have rights as a taxpayer, and if this is their error (which it sounds like it is), they need to fix it.

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