Is state and federal tax refund different from the actual expected amount?
I'm really confused about my tax refund this year. I was trying to file my taxes online and the system is telling me that I owe federal taxes (which I wasn't expecting) and my state refund is only around $20. In previous years I've gotten refunds in the thousands. The website is also asking me to pay $30 for their services to complete the filing. I'm not sure if I'm seeing the final numbers or if paying the $30 service fee will somehow change the calculation to show me a bigger refund like I've gotten before. Does anyone know if paying the service fee will reveal a different refund amount? Or is this $20 state refund and owing federal taxes really my final tax situation this year? I'm so used to getting a much larger refund that I'm wondering if I'm missing something.
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QuantumQuest
The amount shown by the tax software is your actual refund amount (or amount owed) based on the information you provided. Paying the $30 service fee won't change the calculation or reveal a different refund amount - it's just what the company charges to process and file your taxes for you. If you're seeing a much lower refund than previous years, there could be several reasons: - Your withholding amounts might have changed (your employer taking less tax from each paycheck) - You might have different credits or deductions this year - Your income might have increased putting you in a different tax bracket - There might be information you entered differently or missed compared to previous years I'd recommend reviewing your entries carefully before paying and submitting. Look at last year's return side-by-side with this year's to spot major differences.
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Zainab Khalil
•So basically I'm stuck with owing federal taxes and only getting $20 from the state? Is there any way to check if I made a mistake somewhere? Last year I got back almost $2,800 and nothing major has changed with my job or income.
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QuantumQuest
•You're not necessarily stuck - it's worth double-checking your entries before finalizing. Compare this year's W-2 information to last year's. Look for missing deductions or credits you qualified for previously. Check if you entered all income sources correctly. A drop from $2,800 to owing money suggests either a significant change in your withholding or potentially a data entry error. You could try a different tax preparation website for a second opinion - many have free options that let you complete your return before deciding to pay for filing.
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Connor Murphy
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Yara Haddad
•How exactly does it work? Do I just upload my W-2 and last year's return and it tells me what's missing?
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Keisha Robinson
•Sounds too good to be true honestly. Does it file the taxes for you or just point out problems? I'm skeptical these "AI" tools actually know tax law well enough to be trusted.
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Connor Murphy
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Keisha Robinson
Ok I was skeptical about taxr.ai when I commented earlier but I actually tried it and wow. I uploaded my draft return from TurboTax plus my W-2s and last year's return. It immediately showed me that I forgot to enter a student loan interest deduction that I had last year and also identified that my retirement contributions weren't properly counted. After making those fixes and re-entering the info into TurboTax, my refund went from owing $45 to getting back $640! Pretty huge difference for taking like 15 minutes to use the tool. Definitely worth checking before you finalize anything.
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Paolo Conti
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Amina Sow
•Wait how does this work? The IRS phone lines always say they're too busy and hang up on me. How does this service get through?
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GalaxyGazer
•This sounds like a scam. How would some random company have special access to the IRS phone system? And wouldn't they need your personal tax info to do this?
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Paolo Conti
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GalaxyGazer
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Oliver Wagner
Have you checked if you're still claiming the same number of allowances/deductions on your W-4? If that changed, it could explain why you're owing instead of getting a refund. Also check if you have multiple jobs or income sources that aren't withholding enough. I had a similar shock last year but realized I had accidentally claimed "exempt" on my W-4 when starting a new job. Fixed it for this year and back to normal refunds!
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Zainab Khalil
•I didn't change anything on my W-4 that I know of, but maybe I should double check with HR? I only have one job and haven't added any side income. The only thing different is I worked a bit more overtime this year, but I wouldn't think that would completely eliminate my refund and make me owe.
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Oliver Wagner
•Definitely check with HR to confirm your withholding status. Sometimes when you work overtime, the payroll system might not withhold at the correct rate for those higher paychecks, thinking your annual income is suddenly much higher. If you worked significantly more overtime, it could push you into a higher tax bracket which might explain part of the difference. Also review any tax credits you qualified for last year (education, child tax credit, earned income) to make sure you're still claiming them correctly.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
Has anyone tried both TurboTax and H&R Block online to compare the results? Sometimes I get different amounts from different software.
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Javier Mendoza
•Yes! I always run my taxes through both TurboTax and FreeTaxUSA before filing. This year they had a $340 difference because TurboTax found an obscure deduction FreeTaxUSA missed. Worth the extra 30 minutes to try more than one service.
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Zainab Abdulrahman
I'd definitely recommend trying both the taxr.ai suggestion from @Connor Murphy and comparing results across multiple tax software platforms before you finalize anything. A swing from getting $2,800 back to owing federal taxes is a huge red flag that something's not right with your current filing. Also, make sure you're entering ALL your tax documents correctly - sometimes people forget about interest statements from banks, unemployment compensation from earlier in the year, or even small 1099s from freelance work. Even a small missed document can throw off your entire calculation. Before paying any service fees, try the IRS Free File program (https://www.irs.gov/filing/free-file-do-your-federal-taxes-for-free) which gives you access to brand-name software for free if you qualify. At minimum, it'll give you another data point to compare against your current results.
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