What causes such a large difference in tax refunds between similar incomes?
So this past weekend my good friend and I both filed our taxes. We work at the same company in nearly identical positions, both earning around $65k annually. We're both single filing status. Here's what's got me confused - she ended up owing the IRS like $15, while I somehow got a federal refund of $1,350. We actually live in different states (our office is right near the state border so some of us commute across state lines), but I'm only talking about our federal returns here, not state taxes. I'm happy to get money back, but I'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong by overpaying throughout the year? Should I be adjusting my withholdings? What could possibly cause such a huge difference in our federal refunds when our situations seem so similar?
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Miguel Ortiz
The difference in your refunds likely comes down to your withholding settings on your W-4 forms. This is the form you fill out when you start a job that tells your employer how much federal tax to withhold from each paycheck. Some key differences that could explain this: - Your friend might have selected fewer withholding allowances than you, meaning less tax taken out each paycheck - One of you might have additional income sources that required different withholding - Different pre-tax deductions like 401(k) contributions, HSA contributions, or health insurance premiums - One of you might have eligible tax credits the other doesn't qualify for - Different deductions taken when filing (standard vs. itemized) To fix this for next year, you could consider updating your W-4 with your employer if you'd prefer to have less withheld. The goal isn't necessarily to get a refund - ideally, you want to break even so you're not giving the government an interest-free loan all year.
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Ava Rodriguez
•Thanks for the detailed explanation! I do contribute about 8% to my 401(k) while I'm pretty sure my friend doesn't contribute anything yet. Could that really make such a big difference? Also, do you think I should adjust my W-4 to have less withheld each paycheck?
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Miguel Ortiz
•The 401(k) contribution definitely contributes to the difference. That 8% on $65k means you're putting about $5,200 pre-tax into your 401(k), which lowers your taxable income significantly. That alone could account for several hundred dollars of the difference. Whether you should adjust your W-4 depends on your personal preference. Some people like getting a larger refund as a form of "forced savings," while others prefer having more money in each paycheck. If you want more money throughout the year, you could update your W-4 to reduce withholding. The IRS has a tax withholding estimator tool on their website that can help calculate the right amount. Just be careful not to underwithhold, as that could result in penalties.
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Zainab Khalil
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Amina Sow
The biggest differences in refunds between people with similar incomes usually comes down to: 1) Withholding differences - how you filled out your W-4 2) Retirement contributions - 401k, IRA, etc. reduce taxable income 3) Health insurance premiums if paid pre-tax 4) Tax credits you might qualify for that your friend doesn't 5) Itemized deductions vs standard deduction 6) Additional income sources like investments or side jobs Check your W-2 box 2 to see how much federal tax was actually withheld from your paychecks last year. Then compare that percentage to your total income. Your friend probably had a lower withholding percentage.
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GalaxyGazer
•Don't forget student loan interest! That can be a significant deduction for many people making around $65k and can result in very different refund amounts between otherwise similar tax situations.
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Amina Sow
•That's a great point! Student loan interest deductions can reduce taxable income by up to $2,500 in 2024, which could easily account for several hundred dollars in tax differences. Other factors I didn't mention that could cause refund differences include charitable donations if someone itemizes, medical expenses over 7.5% of AGI, and whether someone qualifies for education credits like the Lifetime Learning Credit or American Opportunity Credit.
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Oliver Wagner
has anybody ever adjusted their w4 to get more money during the year and then ended up owing a lot at tax time? im scared to change mine because i dont want a surprise bill next year. i usually get about 2k back and use it to pay off holiday debt.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
•I did this last year and it backfired. Updated my W-4 to get more in each check but didn't calculate correctly. Ended up owing $800 at tax time which I wasn't prepared for. If you're going to adjust, use the IRS withholding calculator on their website to be precise. Don't just guess like I did.
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