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Connor Murphy

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The MFS filing status definitely creates a maze of restrictions, but don't give up on retirement savings entirely! Here are a few additional strategies to consider: 1. **Spousal IRA contributions**: If your spouse has little to no income, you might be able to contribute to a spousal IRA on their behalf (subject to the same MFS limitations, but it's another avenue). 2. **HSA contributions**: If you have a high-deductible health plan, HSAs offer triple tax benefits (deductible, tax-free growth, tax-free withdrawals for medical expenses) and aren't subject to the same MFS restrictions as IRAs. 3. **Taxable investment accounts**: While not tax-advantaged, you can still save for retirement in regular brokerage accounts. Focus on tax-efficient index funds to minimize the tax drag. 4. **Timing considerations**: If your need to file separately is temporary (like the student loan situation), you might consider maxing out other retirement accounts this year and then catching up on IRA contributions in future years when you can file jointly again. The key is not to let the perfect be the enemy of the good - even non-deductible Traditional IRA contributions with tax-deferred growth can be worthwhile over a long time horizon.

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Sophia Carson

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This is really helpful advice! I hadn't even thought about HSAs as a retirement savings strategy. Quick question about the spousal IRA - would my spouse need to have ANY income to contribute to a spousal IRA, or can it work even if they have zero income? Also, are there any specific requirements about how the contribution needs to be structured when filing separately?

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Adaline Wong

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Great question about spousal IRAs! For spousal IRA contributions, the spouse receiving the contribution can have zero income - that's actually the whole point of the spousal IRA rule. However, the contributing spouse needs to have enough earned income to cover both their own IRA contribution AND the spousal contribution. When filing MFS, spousal IRA contributions are still subject to those same restrictive rules if you lived together during the year. So if your combined income exceeds the thresholds and you lived together, the spousal IRA would face the same $10K phase-out limits for Roth or loss of deductibility for Traditional. The contribution structure is straightforward - you just make the contribution directly to your spouse's IRA account. The IRS doesn't care which bank account the money comes from, just that the contributing spouse has sufficient earned income to support both contributions. Most IRA providers handle this routinely. HSAs really are underrated for retirement savings! After age 65, you can withdraw for any purpose (not just medical) and only pay regular income tax, making it function like a Traditional IRA with the added benefit of tax-free medical withdrawals.

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One thing that might help is understanding that the MFS restrictions aren't necessarily permanent for your situation. Since you mentioned this is due to student loan repayment considerations, you might want to track when those loans get paid down or if the repayment terms change. In the meantime, definitely don't skip retirement savings altogether! Even if you can't get the full tax benefits from IRAs right now, you have other options: - Max out any employer 401(k) match if available (this isn't subject to MFS restrictions) - Consider a backdoor Roth conversion strategy if your income allows it - Look into increasing contributions to other tax-advantaged accounts like HSAs The student loan/MFS situation is frustrating but temporary. Keep saving for retirement in whatever way works best under your current constraints, and you can optimize your IRA strategy again once your filing status changes. The most important thing is maintaining the savings habit and not losing years of potential compound growth.

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Norman Fraser

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This is really solid advice! I'm in a similar situation where MFS is necessary for student loan reasons, and it's reassuring to hear that this constraint is temporary. One question - when you mention the backdoor Roth conversion strategy, does this actually work with MFS filing status? I thought the income limits that prevent regular Roth contributions would also complicate the backdoor approach. Also, do you know if there are any timing considerations for when to potentially switch back to filing jointly? Like, is there a specific point in the student loan repayment process where it makes sense to recalculate the benefits?

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The Boss

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PSA: If anyone else is dealing with this, direct deposit is the way to go next time... just sayin πŸ’…

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Evan Kalinowski

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fr fr this is the real life pro tip right here

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Also worth noting that if your check does get returned to the IRS due to forwarding issues, they'll typically reissue it as a paper check to your updated address once you file Form 8822. The whole process can add another 3-4 weeks though, so definitely update your address with them ASAP even if USPS forwarding is working for now.

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Has anyone using TurboTax had issues with how it calculates NIIT when you have capital loss carryforwards? Mine seemed to handle it strangely last year and I'm wondering if I need to switch to a different software.

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I actually switched from TurboTax to H&R Block's premium online version specifically because of this issue. TurboTax wasn't clearly showing me how my capital loss carryforwards were being applied to my NIIT calculation, but H&R Block has a much clearer worksheet that breaks it down.

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I've been dealing with a similar situation and wanted to share what I learned from my tax preparer. One thing that might help is understanding that Form 8960 (the NIIT form) has its own separate calculation for net investment income that doesn't mirror your Schedule D exactly. The key insight for me was realizing that while your capital loss carryforward reduces your net capital gain to zero for NIIT purposes (which is great), you still need to be careful about other investment income like dividends, interest, or rental income that might push you over the NIIT threshold. Also, make sure you're considering the modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) thresholds - $200K for single filers, $250K for married filing jointly. Even if your net investment income is low due to the loss carryforwards, you might still owe NIIT if your overall income exceeds these thresholds. Have you calculated whether you'll be above the MAGI threshold this year? That's really the first step in determining if NIIT will even apply to your situation.

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Malik Jenkins

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That's a really helpful breakdown, especially about Form 8960 having its own calculation! I hadn't fully grasped that the NIIT form doesn't just mirror Schedule D. Your point about the MAGI thresholds is crucial too. In my case, even though my capital gains will be fully offset by the carryforward losses, I do have some dividend income and my salary puts me right around the $200K threshold for single filers. So I definitely need to run those numbers carefully. Thanks for mentioning that - it's easy to get focused on just the capital loss piece and forget about the bigger MAGI picture. Do you know if there are any strategies to keep MAGI below the threshold if you're close, or is it pretty much just what it is based on your income sources?

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RaΓΊl Mora

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This is absolutely infuriating and unfortunately way too common with Indiana this year. I'm a tax professional and we're seeing unprecedented delays - easily 3x longer than previous years. The most frustrating part is that the DOR reps genuinely don't have access to detailed information about why returns are held up, so they give these generic responses that help nobody. A few things that might help based on what I've seen work for clients: 1. If you moved addresses in the past year, that's almost certainly why you're delayed - it triggers automatic identity verification 2. Try calling right at 8:30 AM and ask to speak with a "refund specialist" rather than general customer service 3. Document every call - date, time, rep name if they give it, and what they told you. This helps when you escalate 4. The state rep route really does work - they have direct contacts who can actually see what's happening with your return The cash flow management theory mentioned by the former employee makes perfect sense. They're basically using our refunds as an interest-free loan while charging us penalties for late payments. It's completely backwards and honestly should be illegal. Don't give up - keep pushing and use multiple strategies. This is 100% a systemic failure on their part, not anything you did wrong.

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I'm dealing with this exact same issue! Filed my Indiana return on February 9th, accepted immediately, and it's been 57 days of complete silence. What's really frustrating is that I work in finance myself, so I understand processing systems - and there's no legitimate reason for these delays on straightforward returns. After reading through all these experiences, I'm convinced this is systematic dysfunction rather than isolated issues. The fact that federal returns process in under two weeks while Indiana takes 2+ months for the same taxpayer data is inexcusable. The inconsistent explanations from reps (I've gotten three different stories in four calls) suggests they either don't have real system access or are trained to give non-answers. I'm going to try the state representative approach this week - seems like that's the only thing that consistently gets results based on everyone's feedback here. Also planning to use one of those callback services to bypass the hold music torture and actually speak to someone with authority. Thanks to everyone sharing their timelines and strategies. It's oddly comforting to know this isn't just me, though it's infuriating that so many of us are dealing with this incompetence. Will update if I make any progress!

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Mei Zhang

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I'm in almost the identical situation - filed February 11th and still waiting after 56 days! What really resonates with me is your point about the systematic dysfunction. I've been tracking this thread and it's clear that dozens of us filed in that same mid-February window and are all experiencing identical delays. That's not coincidence - that's intentional batch processing or queue management. I work in operations myself and you're absolutely right that there's no technical reason for these delays on standard W-2 returns. The fact that they can process our payments instantly but take months for refunds shows exactly where their priorities lie. I'm also planning to contact my state rep this week - seems like that's the nuclear option that actually works. Keep us posted on your progress, and thanks for sharing your professional perspective on this mess!

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Diego Chavez

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Does anyone have experience with how the R&D credit works for pass-through entities like an LLC? My accountant mentioned something about our company needing to process it at the entity level first and then it flows to our personal returns, but I'm confused about the mechanics.

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NeonNebula

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For a pass-through LLC, you'd still calculate the R&D credit on Form 6765 at the entity level. Then the credit amount flows through to the owners' personal tax returns on Schedule K-1, similar to how income and deductions flow through. If your wife is the sole owner, she'll claim it on her personal return. The nice thing about pass-through treatment is that if the business doesn't have enough tax liability to use the full credit, it can still be used against the owners' personal tax liability. Just make sure to keep all documentation at the business level, not mixed with personal records.

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Just wanted to add a practical tip that might help - make sure to keep detailed project documentation throughout the year, not just at tax time. The IRS loves contemporaneous records for R&D credit audits. We learned this the hard way when we got selected for review. Having emails, technical specifications, and meeting notes that showed we were genuinely facing technical uncertainty and experimenting with solutions made all the difference. The IRS agent specifically mentioned that our real-time documentation was much more credible than trying to recreate everything after the fact. For your wife's software development company, I'd recommend keeping records of any technical challenges encountered, different approaches tried, and why certain solutions didn't work. Even failed experiments count as qualified research expenses if they were part of a systematic process to eliminate technical uncertainty. The combination of good documentation plus being able to take both the wage deduction AND the credit makes this one of the most valuable tax benefits for development companies. Just don't forget that the credit can carry forward for 20 years if you can't use it all in the current year!

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Reina Salazar

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This is incredibly helpful advice! I had no idea that contemporaneous documentation was so critical. We've been pretty good about keeping technical specs and project notes, but I never thought about preserving the "why didn't this work" documentation. Quick question - when you say failed experiments count as qualified research expenses, does that include the wages paid during time spent on approaches that ultimately didn't pan out? We probably spent 2-3 weeks last year trying a completely different architecture that we ended up scrapping. Those wages were still part of the legitimate R&D process, right? Also, the 20-year carryforward is great to know. With a smaller LLC, we might not have enough tax liability some years to use the full credit, so knowing it doesn't just disappear is reassuring. Thanks for sharing your audit experience - definitely going to be more diligent about documentation going forward!

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