How to correct a partner or sole-proprietor improperly paid through payroll? Tax nightmare needs fixing
Okay so we've got ourselves in a bit of a mess with our LLC. We set up the company about 4 years ago, intending it to be treated as a partnership for tax purposes. The problem is that one of the partners hasn't been filing his partnership returns, so someone had the brilliant idea to just pay him through payroll. Their reasoning was "well at least the IRS will get some taxes through the payroll system" 🤦♂️ This has been going on for almost 4 years now, and here's the kicker - the partnership has NEVER filed a 1065 form. Not once. I know partners cannot be paid through payroll - that's Partnership Taxation 101. But now I'm trying to figure out how to fix this disaster. How complicated is this going to be to untangle? What steps do we need to take to correct it? Are we looking at massive penalties? Anyone have experience with this kind of situation or can point me to some resources?
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Daniel White
This is definitely fixable, but it's going to require some work. When partners are incorrectly paid as employees, you've essentially created a payroll tax issue that needs correction on multiple returns. First, you'll need to file all the missing 1065 partnership returns. For the partner who was incorrectly paid through payroll, those wages need to be reclassified as guaranteed payments to a partner. The partnership will need to issue this partner K-1s for all the missed years. The payroll tax returns (941s and 940s) will need to be amended to remove the partner from the payroll calculations. However, the employer portion of the FICA taxes that were paid on behalf of the partner can't be recovered past the statute of limitations (generally 3 years). The partner will need to file or amend their individual returns to report the income correctly as self-employment income rather than W-2 wages, which means paying self-employment taxes. You should probably look into the Voluntary Classification Settlement Program (VCSP) or other IRS correction programs that might help minimize penalties.
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Nolan Carter
•Thanks for the info! So we'd need to file 4 years of 1065s all at once? Will the penalties be per filing or would they stack for each missed year? Also, what happens to all the withheld taxes that were already paid through payroll? Does the partner get credit for those somehow?
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Daniel White
•You'll need to file all the missing 1065s, and yes, the penalties typically apply to each unfiled return separately. The penalty for late filing of a 1065 is $210 per partner per month (for 2023), up to a maximum of 12 months. So that adds up quickly with multiple years. For the taxes already withheld through payroll, the partner will get credit for the income tax withholding on their individual returns when they amend. However, the FICA taxes are more complicated. The employee portion of FICA that was withheld won't directly transfer to cover self-employment tax. The partner will likely owe additional self-employment tax, but can deduct half of it on their individual return.
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Natalia Stone
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Tasia Synder
•How exactly does it work? Do you just upload your tax documents and it tells you what to do? I've got a similar situation but with an S-Corp where I incorrectly paid myself as an independent contractor instead of an employee.
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Selena Bautista
•I'm skeptical that any automated tool could handle complex partnership reclassification issues. These situations usually need a tax attorney who understands the nuances. Did you still end up paying penalties? And how did they handle the amended returns process?
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Natalia Stone
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Selena Bautista
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Ellie Perry
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Landon Morgan
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Landon Morgan
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Teresa Boyd
I fixed a similar situation about 2 years ago. One thing nobody has mentioned yet is that you should check if your LLC actually filed an election to be treated as a partnership (Form 8832). If not, it might have defaulted to disregarded entity status (if single-member) or partnership status (if multi-member). This could actually work in your favor depending on the specifics. If no election was filed and it defaulted to a disregarded entity, the "payroll" might be reclassified more easily.
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Abigail Patel
•We never filed any election forms at all. We have two members so I'm assuming it defaulted to partnership status. Does this make the correction process any easier or are we still in the same mess?
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Teresa Boyd
•With two members and no election filed, it would have defaulted to partnership treatment for federal tax purposes. So you're still in the same situation of needing to file the delinquent 1065s and correct the payroll issue. One potential silver lining - since you've never filed a 1065 before, you could possibly make some retroactive elections on your first filed return that might be beneficial. For example, you could select accounting methods that work best for your situation rather than being stuck with methods established on previously filed returns.
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Lourdes Fox
Has anyone considered that the LLC might actually have been operating as an S-corporation without realizing it? If they filed Form 2553 at some point but didn't follow through with the right tax filings, this could be even messier. Before doing anything I'd verify what elections were actually made.
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Bruno Simmons
•That's a good point. I once worked with a client who thought they had a partnership but had actually filed an S-corp election years earlier and forgotten about it. The correction path is completely different for an S-corp.
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Abigail Patel
•We definitely never filed for S-corp status. The original plan was to be a partnership but then we just... never filed any partnership returns. It was a small business that grew faster than our tax knowledge.
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Aileen Rodriguez
One thing to consider - the partner who was incorrectly paid through payroll has been paying FICA taxes, which are capped, instead of self-employment taxes, which aren't capped for the Medicare portion. Depending on their income level, this correction might actually result in them owing significantly more taxes for those years. Also, don't forget state tax implications. State-level corrections may be needed as well, and some states have different rules for partnerships than the federal government.
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Nia Wilson
This is a complex situation but definitely not unfixable. I've helped several clients through similar partnership/payroll reclassification issues. Here's what you need to prioritize: 1. **Immediate assessment**: Gather all your payroll records, LLC operating agreement, and any state/federal filings to confirm your tax status and the scope of corrections needed. 2. **Consider penalty relief**: Look into First Time Penalty Abatement if you qualify, or Reasonable Cause relief for the late 1065 filings. The IRS is sometimes more lenient when businesses proactively correct mistakes. 3. **Sequential filing strategy**: File the 1065s in chronological order starting with the earliest year. This helps establish the pattern of corrections and makes it easier for the IRS to process. 4. **Partner's individual impact**: The partner who was paid through payroll will likely owe additional self-employment taxes, but they may also be eligible for some credits they missed as a partner (like the Section 199A deduction if applicable). 5. **Professional help**: Given the 4-year scope and multiple return types involved, seriously consider hiring a tax professional experienced in partnership corrections. The cost will likely be offset by avoiding bigger mistakes and potentially reducing penalties. The key is being proactive and systematic about the correction process. The IRS generally works with taxpayers who voluntarily come forward to fix mistakes.
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Paolo Longo
•This is incredibly helpful! I'm particularly concerned about point #4 regarding the additional self-employment taxes. The partner who was paid through payroll made about $80k per year, so we're talking about potentially significant additional SE tax liability across 4 years. Do you know if there are any installment payment options available when someone owes back taxes due to corrections like this? Also, when you mention filing the 1065s in chronological order, should we wait for each one to be processed before filing the next year, or can we submit them all at once with a cover letter explaining the situation? @Nia Wilson Thanks for the detailed breakdown - this gives us a much clearer roadmap forward.
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Marilyn Dixon
•Yes, there are definitely installment payment options available! The IRS offers several programs for situations like this: **Payment Plans:** - Short-term payment plan (up to 180 days) - no setup fee if you apply online - Long-term installment agreement (up to 72 months) - setup fees apply but can be reduced if you qualify for low-income guidelines - You can apply for installment agreements even before all the amended returns are processed **Filing Strategy:** You can absolutely file all the 1065s at once - in fact, I'd recommend it. Include a cover letter with the first year's return explaining the situation and referencing all the years being corrected. This gives the IRS the full picture upfront and can actually help with penalty considerations. **SE Tax Impact:** At $80k/year, you're looking at roughly $11,304 in additional SE taxes per year (15.3% on the full amount since it's under the Social Security wage cap). Over 4 years, that's significant. However, remember that half of the SE tax is deductible on the individual return, which will reduce the overall impact somewhat. **Pro tip:** File Form 9465 (Installment Agreement Request) along with the amended individual returns to get the payment plan process started immediately rather than waiting for assessment letters. The key is being proactive about both the corrections and the payment arrangements - the IRS is much more cooperative when you come to them first.
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Rebecca Johnston
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the importance of documenting your correction process thoroughly. Keep detailed records of every amended return filed, every payment made, and all correspondence with the IRS. This documentation becomes crucial if there are any disputes later or if the IRS has questions about your corrections. Also, consider requesting penalty abatement letters for each tax year once you've filed the corrections and made payments. The IRS sometimes grants relief for reasonable cause, especially when businesses proactively correct mistakes. Your cooperation in fixing this voluntarily could work in your favor. For the partner who was incorrectly paid through payroll, make sure they understand they'll need to file amended individual returns (1040X) for each affected year. The timing matters here - generally you have 3 years from the original due date to amend and claim refunds, so depending on when those original returns were filed, some years might be getting close to that deadline. Finally, once this is all corrected, establish proper ongoing procedures to prevent this from happening again. Set up quarterly partnership meetings to review tax obligations and consider working with a bookkeeper or accountant who understands partnership taxation.
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Malik Robinson
•This is excellent advice about documentation! I'm just starting to navigate a similar partnership mess and hadn't thought about the 3-year deadline for amended returns. That's a really important point - some of those earlier years could be running out of time for the partner to claim any refunds they might be owed. One question about the penalty abatement process - do you request that after all the corrections are filed and processed, or can you submit the abatement request along with the amended returns? I'm wondering about the timing since we want to be proactive but don't want to slow down the correction process. Also, when you mention establishing proper procedures going forward, what specific systems would you recommend for a small partnership to stay on top of quarterly obligations? We definitely don't want to end up in this situation again.
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