Small 2 member LLC never filed Form 1065 for 10 years - options?
Title: Small 2 member LLC never filed Form 1065 for 10 years - options? 1 I've got a tricky situation that I've been trying to help my cousin with. They've been running a small LLC with a business partner for about a decade, bringing in roughly $7-13K annually. Here's the issue - they've never filed any partnership returns (Form 1065) since they started. To complicate things, the business partner is a German citizen who has never actually set foot in the US. My cousin also hasn't filed personal tax returns for most of these years. I'm trying to figure out the smartest way forward. What's the best approach to minimize damage at this point? Is there any realistic chance of penalty abatement given the circumstances? Should they start by filing all the delinquent returns first, then wait for the inevitable penalty notices to arrive before requesting an abatement? Or is there a more strategic approach? Any advice from those who've dealt with multi-year unfiled partnership returns would be incredibly helpful!
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Isaiah Cross
8 This is definitely a complicated situation, but not unfixable. Your cousin needs to get compliant as soon as possible, since the longer they wait, the worse the penalties can get. First step should be filing those missing 1065 forms for all years. Yes, there will be penalties ($210 per month per partner for up to 12 months for each unfiled year), but the IRS does have a First-Time Abatement program that could potentially help with at least one year's worth of penalties. For the remaining years, your cousin would need to demonstrate "reasonable cause" for not filing. The foreign partner complicates things because there could be withholding requirements that weren't met. Your cousin should definitely work with a tax professional who specializes in partnerships and international taxation, not just a regular tax preparer.
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Isaiah Cross
•17 Thanks for the info. Do you know if the First-Time Abatement would apply if they've literally never filed before? Or is it more for people who have a good history and then miss a year? Also, what kinds of "reasonable cause" arguments tend to work with the IRS in these situations?
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Isaiah Cross
•8 The First-Time Abatement typically applies if you haven't had penalties in the three prior years, but your cousin may still qualify since they've never filed before (though it would likely only help with the most recent tax year). As for reasonable cause, the IRS considers factors like whether there was a significant family emergency, natural disaster, inability to obtain records, or receiving incorrect advice from a tax professional. Simple ignorance of the law generally doesn't qualify. For your cousin, they would need to document why they didn't know they needed to file or what specific circumstances prevented filing. The fact that the business had relatively small income isn't itself a justification, but could be part of an overall reasonable cause argument.
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Isaiah Cross
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Isaiah Cross
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Isaiah Cross
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Isaiah Cross
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Isaiah Cross
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Isaiah Cross
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Isaiah Cross
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Isaiah Cross
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Isaiah Cross
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Isaiah Cross
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Isaiah Cross
7 One thing nobody has mentioned yet - your cousin and their partner should consider whether they actually needed to file as a partnership at all. If they were a small LLC with just two members and minimal activity, they might have qualified for what's called the "small partnership exception" for some of those years (though this exception was later modified). Depending on the specific circumstances, they might be able to argue that they weren't actually required to file 1065s for some of those years, which could potentially reduce the penalty exposure. Worth discussing with a tax professional who specializes in this area.
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Isaiah Cross
•1 I've never heard of this small partnership exception. Could you explain more about what qualifies? Our LLC has been pretty inactive with minimal income, so I'm wondering if this might apply to our situation.
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Isaiah Cross
•7 The small partnership exception was a provision that exempted certain partnerships from filing requirements if they had 10 or fewer partners (all individuals, estates of deceased partners, or C corporations), each partner's share of partnership items was reported correctly on their personal returns, and the partnership was a domestic partnership. However, this exception was modified by the Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015, so it doesn't apply the same way for tax years beginning after 2017. For the older years though, your cousin might have an argument depending on their specific circumstances. It's definitely something to discuss with their tax professional as it could potentially eliminate the filing requirement for some of the earlier years.
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Isaiah Cross
14 Has your cousin considered filing for the Streamlined Domestic Offshore Procedures? With a foreign partner involved, there might be international reporting requirements they've missed too. When I had a similar situation with my small business that had a foreign partner, we had to deal with FBAR filings and other international information reporting requirements. The foreign partner should also check if they have any US tax filing requirements based on their interest in a US LLC, even if they've never been to the US.
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Isaiah Cross
•25 The Streamlined Procedures are mostly for US taxpayers with unreported foreign assets, not really for this situation where the issue is a US business with a foreign partner. But you're right about the foreign partner potentially having US filing requirements.
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Connor Murphy
This is a complex situation that requires immediate attention. Your cousin is looking at significant penalties - potentially over $25,000 just for the unfiled 1065s alone ($210 per month per partner for up to 12 months, multiplied by 10 years). Here's what I'd recommend: 1. **Get professional help immediately** - Find a tax attorney or CPA who specializes in partnership taxation and penalty abatement. The foreign partner aspect adds layers of complexity with potential withholding requirements. 2. **File all delinquent returns first** - Don't wait for penalty notices. Filing shows good faith effort to comply. 3. **Reasonable cause strategy** - For penalty abatement, your cousin will need to demonstrate reasonable cause for each unfiled year. Common arguments include: reliance on professional advice, serious illness, inability to obtain records, or other circumstances beyond their control. 4. **Consider installment agreements** - Even with abatement, there may still be substantial penalties. The IRS offers payment plans for situations like this. 5. **Foreign partner compliance** - The German partner likely has US tax obligations too and may need to file their own returns. The key is acting quickly and having a comprehensive strategy. Each day of delay potentially increases penalties. A qualified professional can help navigate the penalty abatement process and potentially save thousands in penalties.
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