US tax status confusion: Resident or non-resident after moving abroad?
I came to the US back in 2019 on an F-1 visa. After the 5-year exemption period for F-1 holders, I became a tax resident in 2024. I relocated to Germany for work in October 2024, but I'm planning to file as a tax resident for 2024, report my worldwide income, and claim Foreign Tax Credit since this seemed like the simpler route from what I've researched. My situation gets complicated because I'll be traveling to the US frequently to visit my partner (we're not legally married). I'll be back in the US on a B1 visa in late December, and my total time in the US during 2025 will likely exceed 31 days throughout the year, which I believe means I'd pass the Substantial Presence Test (especially counting my days from 2024). However, since I've established tax residency in Germany with solid ties here (employment contract, apartment lease, German bank accounts, etc.), I don't think I need to file US taxes even if I stay in the US for more than 31 days in 2025. Here's what I'm trying to figure out: 1) Is my understanding correct about not needing to file US taxes in 2025? 2) Should I proactively report my change in tax status to the IRS when 2024 ends? 3) For 2024, does filing as a tax resident for the whole year make sense, or would a dual-status return be better? If dual-status is recommended, how would my December visit affect things? Would my resident alien status end in October when I established German tax residency? 4) How would getting married in 2025 change things? Would I need to file US taxes as a resident/NRA? (I understand my partner would file as married filing separately) 5) What if I apply for a Green Card in 2025? Would an approved I-140 make me a "US person" for tax purposes?
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Matthew Sanchez
Your situation has several moving parts, but I can help clarify some things for you. For question 1: You're on the right track. Even if you meet the Substantial Presence Test in 2025, you can file Form 8840 (Closer Connection Exception Statement) to claim that Germany is your tax home. As long as you're in the US for fewer than 183 days in 2025 and can document your German connections (employment, housing, bank accounts, etc.), you should qualify as a nonresident. For question 2: There's no formal process to notify the IRS about changing from resident to nonresident status. You'll effectively communicate this through how you file your 2024 return and then by either not filing or filing as a nonresident in 2025. For question 3: For 2024, since you were a resident for most of the year, filing a dual-status return is probably more accurate. Your resident status would typically end on your last day of physical presence in the US with intent to depart permanently (likely in October). Your December visit on a B1 wouldn't change this since you're entering as a nonresident alien. For questions 4 and 5: These require more consideration based on your specific circumstances.
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Admin_Masters
•Thanks for the detailed response! For the Closer Connection Exception, do I need to file Form 8840 every year I visit the US, even if my pattern of visits is similar? Also, for the dual-status return for 2024, would I need to file both Form 1040 and 1040-NR?
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Matthew Sanchez
•Yes, you should file Form 8840 for each calendar year in which you meet the Substantial Presence Test but wish to claim the closer connection exception. It's essentially your way of documenting to the IRS why you're not filing as a resident despite meeting the day count. For a dual-status return in 2024, you would file a Form 1040 with "Dual-Status Return" written across the top. You'd attach a Form 1040-NR as a statement covering the nonresident portion of the year. Your worldwide income would be reported for the resident period, while only US-source income would be reported for the nonresident period.
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Ella Thompson
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JacksonHarris
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Ella Thompson
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Royal_GM_Mark
For question 4 about marriage - this gets complicated. My wife and I went through this exact situation. If you marry a US citizen/resident while you're a nonresident alien, you have a choice to make. You can either: 1) Continue filing as a nonresident alien (using Form 1040-NR) 2) Make a special election to be treated as a US resident for tax purposes We struggled with getting any clear answers from the IRS helpline about this. After weeks of trying to reach someone knowledgeable, I found https://claimyr.com and used their service to connect with an IRS agent who specialized in international issues. There's also a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The IRS agent explained that making the election to be treated as a resident would allow us to file jointly, which was better for our situation. But each case is different depending on your worldwide income sources.
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Amelia Cartwright
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Chris King
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Rachel Clark
Regarding question 5 about the I-140 and Green Card: Having an approved I-140 petition alone does NOT make you a US person for tax purposes. The tax residency starts when you actually receive your Green Card (become a Lawful Permanent Resident). However, one thing to watch for - if you get your Green Card while living abroad and don't move to the US right away, you could potentially be considered a "resident alien" for tax purposes while physically living in Germany. This creates a complicated situation where both countries consider you their tax resident. There's a provision called the "first-year choice" that might help you in this situation, but timing matters a lot here.
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Admin_Masters
•That's really helpful to know about the I-140 vs. actual Green Card for tax purposes. If I do get a Green Card while living in Germany, would the US-Germany tax treaty help resolve the dual residency issue? Or would I definitely need to use that "first-year choice" provision you mentioned?
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Rachel Clark
•The US-Germany tax treaty does have a "tie-breaker" provision that can help determine your tax residency when both countries claim you. It looks at factors like where your permanent home is, center of vital interests, habitual abode, and nationality. The "first-year choice" is different - it allows you to be treated as a nonresident for part of your first year with a green card. It can be beneficial if you want to avoid US taxation on your worldwide income for that partial year before you physically move to the US. Every situation is unique though. One important warning: green card holders living outside the US long-term risk having their card considered "abandoned" for immigration purposes, while still being considered US tax residents. It creates a messy situation, so timing your green card application with your actual plans to move is important.
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Zachary Hughes
For those discussing dual-status returns, there's an important limitation to be aware of: you cannot take the standard deduction on a dual-status return unless you're a resident of Canada, Mexico, South Korea, or India. You must itemize deductions for the resident portion of the year. Also, if you're filing dual-status because you left the US, you might want to look into any 401k or IRA accounts you have. There are special considerations for retirement accounts when you become a nonresident.
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Mia Alvarez
•Is that also true for foreign tax credits? I've heard you can't claim FTCs on a dual-status return for the nonresident portion of the year. Can someone confirm?
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