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Avery Flores

US tax residency status question - F-1 visa holder moving to Germany but visiting US frequently

I came to the US back in 2019 on my F-1 visa. Based on the 5-year exemption rule for F-1 visa holders, I became a tax resident in 2024. I relocated to Germany in November 2024 for a new job opportunity, but I'm planning to file as a tax resident for 2024, report my worldwide income, and claim Foreign Tax Credit since this seemed like the simpler approach. My situation gets complicated because I'll be traveling to the US quite often to visit my partner (we're not legally married), who is a US tax resident. I'll be back in the States at the end of December on a B1 visa, and my total time in the US during 2025 will likely exceed 31 days throughout the year. From what I understand (and counting my days from 2024), this would mean I'd pass the Substantial Presence Test. However, since I'm establishing tax residency in Germany with clear ties here (employment, housing, etc.), I don't think I need to file US taxes even if I stay in the US for more than 31 days in 2025. I have several questions: 1) Is my understanding correct? 2) Should I proactively report my change in tax status to the IRS at the end of 2024? 3) Is filing as a tax resident for the entire year a good choice, or should I file a dual-status return instead? If dual-status is better, how would my December visit affect this? Will my resident alien status be until November when I left and established tax residency in Germany? 4) How would things change if we officially get married in 2025? Would I need to file US taxes as a resident/NRA? (I understand my partner would have to file as married filing separately) 5) What if I apply for a Green Card in 2025? Does an approved I-140 make me a "US person" for tax purposes?

Zoe Gonzalez

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Your understanding is mostly correct, but let me clarify a few points: For your first question - Yes, if you establish tax residency in Germany (tax home, closer connections, etc.), you can file Form 8840 (Closer Connection Exception Statement) to claim exception from the Substantial Presence Test, even if you physically meet the day count requirements. You don't need to proactively report your change in tax status to the IRS specifically. Your filing for 2024 as a resident and then potentially not filing or filing as a nonresident in 2025 effectively communicates this change. For 2024, filing as a full-year resident might be easier administratively than a dual-status return, especially if you're claiming Foreign Tax Credits. A dual-status return gets complicated with part-year foreign income, different exclusions, etc. Your December visit on B1 wouldn't affect 2024 status - what matters is when you established your tax home in Germany. If you marry in 2025, you could potentially elect to file as a resident with your spouse (making the "election to file jointly" available to nonresidents married to US citizens/residents). This would mean reporting worldwide income to the US but might have benefits depending on your situation. Regarding Green Card - an approved I-140 (immigrant petition) doesn't make you a US person for tax purposes. Only when you actually receive the Green Card (I-551) would you become a US tax resident, regardless of physical presence.

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Ashley Adams

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Thanks for the detailed answer! I have a follow-up question about the Form 8840. Is there a deadline to submit this form? And do I submit it separately or with some kind of tax return? Also, what kind of documentation would I need to prove my ties to Germany?

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Zoe Gonzalez

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The Form 8840 must be filed by the due date for filing Form 1040NR (generally June 15 for nonresidents who don't have US wages). You would file it separately if you're not otherwise required to file a US return, or attach it to your 1040NR if you do need to file. For documentation, you don't submit proof with Form 8840, but you should keep records showing your German residence (rental/purchase agreements), employment contracts, German tax filings, bank accounts, social ties, etc. The form itself asks questions about these connections which you'll answer under penalty of perjury.

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Samantha Hall

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Don't overlook FBAR requirements when you establish banking in Germany! If your foreign accounts total over $10,000 at any point in the year, you need to file FinCEN Form 114 even if you're not required to file a tax return. This is separate from tax filing and has massive penalties for non-compliance (up to $10,000 per violation if non-willful). Also, Germany has some unique tax treaty provisions with the US that might be beneficial in your situation. Article 13 (Gains) and Article 18 (Pensions) have special provisions that differ from other countries' treaties. Might be worth reviewing those specifically.

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Avery Flores

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Thanks for mentioning FBAR! I do have German accounts already and was planning to report them. Do you know if I need to continue reporting them after I'm no longer a US tax resident? Also, is there a good resource to understand the specifics of the US-Germany tax treaty?

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Samantha Hall

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You only need to file FBAR while you're a US person for tax purposes (citizen, resident alien, etc.). Once you're properly established as a nonresident alien and no longer meet the substantial presence test, the FBAR requirement ends. The IRS has the full text of the treaty on their website (search "US Germany tax treaty IRS"), but it's pretty technical reading. The Thomson Reuters Checkpoint has good commentary on it, though that's a paid service. Free alternatives include the Tax Foundation's international tax guides which break down key provisions in more accessible language. The specific provisions on dividends, interest, and capital gains might be most relevant for your situation.

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Ryan Young

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Has anyone here dealt with the green card application and its tax implications? I'm in a similar situation where I'm working in Canada but dating someone in the US and considering applying for a green card in 2025.

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Sophia Clark

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I went through this last year. Just having an approved I-140 (petition) doesn't make you a tax resident. You become a resident for tax purposes on the first day you're present in the US as a permanent resident (when you actually get the physical green card). But here's what many don't realize - once you GET the green card, you're a US tax resident even if you live outside the US! Unless you formally abandon it or take a treaty position, you'll have to report worldwide income to the US forever, even living abroad. Think carefully before applying!

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Oliver Cheng

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I'm in a somewhat similar situation - moved from the US to the UK after my F-1 status and dealing with the complexity of dual tax obligations. A few additional points that might help: Regarding your question about proactive reporting - while you don't need to formally notify the IRS of your move, make sure you update your address with them using Form 8822. This ensures any correspondence reaches you in Germany. For the dual-status vs full-year resident question, consider the timing of your German employment start. If you began earning German income in November, a dual-status return might actually be more beneficial since you can exclude the German-sourced income from the non-resident portion of the year, potentially reducing your US tax liability. One thing to watch out for - if you're planning frequent US visits, keep detailed records of your entry/exit dates. The substantial presence test can be tricky with multiple short visits, and you'll need accurate day counts for Form 8840 if you claim the closer connection exception. Also, don't forget about potential German tax obligations on your 2024 US income. Germany generally taxes worldwide income for residents, so you might need to report your pre-November US earnings there too. The US-Germany tax treaty should prevent double taxation, but the paperwork can be complex. Good luck with everything! International tax compliance is definitely not straightforward, but staying organized with documentation will save you headaches later.

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