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Mei Wong

Passed Substantial Presence Test - What tax forms do I need to file now?

Hey everyone, I'm in a bit of a tax situation and could use some advice. I've been working in the US on a visa for the past few years, and I just realized I've passed the Substantial Presence Test for 2024. I was here for about 180 days last year and over 120 days in each of the two years before that, so according to my calculations, I definitely meet the criteria. I've been filing as a nonresident alien using 1040-NR all this time, but now I'm confused about what I need to do. Do I need to switch to filing a regular 1040? Are there any special forms I need to fill out since this is my first year as a tax resident? My employer is still withholding taxes as if I'm a nonresident. Also, how does this affect my reporting for foreign bank accounts and investments back home? I heard something about FBAR and FATCA but don't really understand what's required. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

QuantumQuasar

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The Substantial Presence Test is definitely a turning point for your tax status! You're right that once you pass this test, you're generally considered a U.S. resident for tax purposes. Moving forward, you'll need to file Form 1040 instead of 1040-NR. The regular 1040 requires you to report your worldwide income, not just U.S. source income like the 1040-NR. You should inform your employer about your change in tax status so they can adjust their withholding accordingly - they'll need to switch from nonresident withholding to regular withholding procedures. As for foreign accounts, you've now entered the world of FBAR (Foreign Bank Account Report) and FATCA (Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act) requirements. If the total value of your foreign financial accounts exceeds $10,000 at any time during the year, you'll need to file FinCEN Form 114 (FBAR). For FATCA, you may need to file Form 8938 depending on the total value of your foreign assets.

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Liam McGuire

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Thanks for the info! Quick question though - is there any way to still be treated as a nonresident even if I passed the substantial presence test? I have a lot of investments back home and reporting everything would be a nightmare. Also, does being a tax resident mean I have to pay US taxes on all my foreign income even if I already paid taxes on it in my home country?

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QuantumQuasar

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Yes, there is a potential way to still be treated as a nonresident through what's called the "Closer Connection Exception." If you can demonstrate stronger economic and personal ties to your home country than to the U.S., you might qualify. You would need to file Form 8840 (Closer Connection Exception Statement) to claim this exception. Not everyone qualifies, but it's worth looking into based on your situation. Regarding foreign income, the U.S. does tax worldwide income for residents, but the Foreign Tax Credit (Form 1116) or Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (Form 2555) can help prevent double taxation. These mechanisms give you credit for taxes paid to foreign countries or exclude certain foreign income from U.S. taxation. Many people don't realize these protections exist and end up paying more than necessary.

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Amara Eze

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Amara Eze

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Dylan Wright

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One thing nobody mentioned yet - if this is your first year passing the Substantial Presence Test, you might qualify as a "dual-status alien" for the tax year. This means you're a nonresident for part of the year and a resident for the rest. For a dual-status year, you typically file Form 1040 for the resident part and attach a Form 1040-NR as a statement for the nonresident part. It's kinda confusing but important to get right. The tax rules that apply to each period are different!

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Mei Wong

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Thanks for bringing that up! How do I determine the exact date when my status changed? Is it the specific day I passed the Substantial Presence Test or is there some other cutoff date?

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The status change generally happens on the first day you're present in the US during the calendar year in which you meet the Substantial Presence Test. So if you entered the US on January 15th of the year you passed the test, that would be your residency start date. However, there are some elections you can make to change this date in certain situations. For example, if you were in the US on a work visa like an H-1B, you might be eligible for the "First Year Choice" which could accelerate your residency start date to an earlier point. It really depends on your specific visa type and circumstances. The IRS Publication 519 (U.S. Tax Guide for Aliens) has detailed information about this, but it's pretty dense reading.

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Ava Rodriguez

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Be careful about state residency too!! The Substantial Presence Test is for federal taxes, but states have their own rules for residency. Some states are super aggressive about claiming you as a resident if you spend a certain number of days there. For example, NY considers you a resident if you maintain a permanent place of abode and spend 183 days or more in the state. California is even worse - they'll try to claim you're a resident based on much less. State taxes can be a huge additional burden depending on where you live.

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Miguel Diaz

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Can confirm this is a huge issue. I passed the Substantial Presence Test two years ago but didn't realize my state (California) had different rules. Ended up owing an additional $5,800 in state taxes that I wasn't expecting. Brutal surprise.

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Malik Jenkins

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This is such a common situation that catches people off guard! I went through the exact same transition two years ago and it was overwhelming at first. One thing I'd add to the great advice already given - make sure you understand the timing of when you need to start making estimated quarterly tax payments. Once you're a tax resident, you're subject to the same pay-as-you-go requirements as US citizens. If your employer is still withholding at nonresident rates, you might end up owing a significant amount at year-end and potentially face underpayment penalties. I'd recommend calculating your expected tax liability early in the year and either asking your employer to increase withholding or starting to make quarterly estimated payments. The IRS doesn't care that this is your first year as a resident - they expect you to figure it out! Also, start gathering all your foreign account statements now. The FBAR filing deadline is different from your tax return deadline (October 15th with automatic extension vs. April 15th), and the penalties for not filing or filing incorrectly can be severe. Better to be over-prepared than scrambling at deadline time.

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