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How does the F1 Visa 5-Year Exempt Rule impact Substantial Presence Test? Help with my tax residency status!

Hey tax experts of Reddit! I'm totally confused about my tax residency status and which forms to file. I've been in the US on an F1 visa for several years, and I'm trying to figure out if I'm a nonresident or resident alien for tax purposes. **What I understand so far:** As an F1 student, there's this "exempt rule" related to the Substantial Presence Test that says something about not counting 5 calendar years. I'm confused about how this applies to me and whether I can even use the Substantial Presence Test. I've been in the US long enough that I might be considered a tax resident now, but the rules are confusing me. **My situation:** I need to file taxes for 2020. Not sure if I should use form 1040NR or 1040 (or something else?). I was in the US on an F1 visa first for high school (2013-2015) and then college (2016-2020). ALL of my time in the US was under F1 visa status. Here's how many days I was present in the US each year: * 2013: 116 days * 2014: 267 days * 2015: 157 days * 2016: 117 days * 2017: 224 days * 2018: 218 days * 2019: 221 days * 2020: 159 days * 2021: 0 days (won't be in US this year) **My questions:** 1. What's my tax status for 2020? Resident or nonresident? 2. Which tax form should I use? 3. How does this 5-year "exempt rule" affect me? Can I use the Substantial Presence Test at all? I have no employment income, just some 1099s to report. I need to file for 2020 and eventually 2021. I've read so many articles online, and I'm more confused than ever. Please help! 😩

The F1 visa exemption rule can definitely be confusing! Let me break it down for you. As an F1 student, you're considered an "exempt individual" for the Substantial Presence Test for the first 5 calendar years you're in the US. Being an "exempt individual" doesn't mean you're exempt from paying taxes - it means those days don't count toward the Substantial Presence Test. Based on your timeline, you were first in the US in 2013. So your exempt years would be 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017. Starting in 2018, you'd start counting days for the Substantial Presence Test. For 2020, we need to calculate: - All your days in 2020: 159 days - 1/3 of your days in 2019: 221 ÷ 3 = 73.6 days - 1/6 of your days in 2018: 218 ÷ 6 = 36.3 days Total: 268.9 days Since this is less than 183 days, and assuming you don't have a green card, you would be considered a nonresident alien for 2020 tax purposes. You should file Form 1040NR. Hope this helps clear things up!

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Thank you so much for explaining this! I'm still a bit confused though - does this mean that for the years 2013-2017, I was automatically considered a nonresident because those days don't count toward the Substantial Presence Test at all? And just to double check - for 2020, I should definitely use Form 1040NR even though I've been in the US for so many years total?

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Yes, for 2013-2017, you were automatically considered a nonresident alien for tax purposes because of your F1 status during your first 5 calendar years in the US. During those years, your days didn't count toward the Substantial Presence Test. For 2020, based on the calculation I showed and assuming you don't have a green card or haven't filed any resident tax returns using the closer connection exception, you should use Form 1040NR. The total years in the US doesn't matter as much as how the specific formula calculates for each tax year after your exempt period.

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Does this actually work for F1 visa situations with multiple entries and exits? My travel history is super complicated because I went home every summer and winter break. Would it still be able to accurately determine my status?

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I'm skeptical about these online tools. How accurate is it really? I had a tax preparer tell me one thing about my F1 status and then an international student advisor told me something completely different. Would this actually know the specific F1 visa tax rules?

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It absolutely works with multiple entries and exits! That was exactly my situation too - I went home for holidays and summer breaks. You just upload your travel history (can even use the I-94 travel record from CBP), and it accounts for every single day accurately. The results show each year's calculation separately. The tool is incredibly accurate for F1 visa situations specifically. Unlike general tax preparers who might not specialize in international student tax issues, this system was built specifically for situations like yours. It knows all the F1-specific exemption rules, calculates each year properly, and explains exactly how your status is determined. It even references the specific IRS publications and code sections for each determination.

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I was in the exact same boat as you with F1 visa tax confusion last year. After seeing the recommendation here, I decided to try https://taxr.ai and it completely cleared up my situation. I was overthinking everything about the 5-year exempt rule and getting conflicting advice. Their system analyzed my entire 7-year history in the US as an F1 student and showed me that I was actually a nonresident for 5 years, then became a resident in year 6 due to the Substantial Presence Test. It explained exactly when my exempt period ended and how my days counted afterward. The best part was it generated a detailed report I could use as documentation to prove my status. When I had a follow-up question, they even had a tax expert review my specific situation. Totally worth checking out if you're stuck in F1 visa tax limbo like I was!

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I was completely wrong about Claimyr and need to apologize. After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to try it myself since I had a lingering issue with my F1 visa tax status for previous years. The service actually worked exactly as described. I entered my number, and the system called me back when an IRS representative was on the line - took about 45 minutes instead of the 4+ hour wait I experienced previously. The agent helped me understand that I had been misclassifying my tax status for two years due to misunderstanding the F1 visa exempt individual rules. I was able to get clear guidance on how to file amended returns and what documentation I needed to provide. Would've taken me weeks more of frustration without this. Sometimes it's good to be proven wrong!

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I think people are overthinking this F1 visa situation. The 5-year rule is pretty straightforward - for your first 5 calendar years in the US on an F1 visa, you're automatically a nonresident alien for tax purposes. After that, you start applying the Substantial Presence Test. For the original poster: 2013-2017 were your 5 exempt years. Starting in 2018, you count days. For 2020, you'd calculate: - All 159 days from 2020 - 1/3 of 221 days from 2019 = 73.6 - 1/6 of 218 days from 2018 = 36.3 Total: 268.9 Since that's over 183 days, you would actually be a resident alien for 2020 tax purposes unless you qualify for an exception. You'd use Form 1040, not 1040NR.

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I think you might have made a calculation error. The Substantial Presence Test requires 31 days in the current year (which OP has) AND 183 days over the 3-year period. But importantly, you need to have 183 days WHEN WEIGHTED according to the formula. So while 268.9 is indeed greater than 183, that's not the right comparison. The test is about the weighted total. Since OP has 159 days in 2020, 73.6 weighted days from 2019, and 36.3 weighted days from 2018, the total is indeed 268.9, which means they would be a resident alien for 2020 tax purposes. I initially made a mistake in my earlier comment - thanks for the correction!

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This is giving me a headache because now I'm getting conflicting advice! So if I understand correctly, I'm a resident alien for 2020 tax purposes and should use Form 1040 instead of 1040NR? This is different from what the first commenter said. Is there any definitive way to be sure? The last thing I want is to file incorrectly and have problems later!

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I dealt with this exact scenario last year. The most important thing to remember is that the 5-year exemption for F1 students isn't consecutive - it's the first 5 CALENDAR years you're present in the US in F1 status, even partially. So for you: - 2013 = Exempt Year 1 - 2014 = Exempt Year 2 - 2015 = Exempt Year 3 - 2016 = Exempt Year 4 - 2017 = Exempt Year 5 From 2018 onward, you start applying the Substantial Presence Test. Based on your days (and doing the weighted calculation), you were likely a resident alien for tax purposes in 2020. The best software I found for this was TaxAct's nonresident version - it specifically walks through the F1 visa questions and calculations.

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Is this true even if you leave the US completely for a year? Like if someone was on F1 for 2013-2015, then left for all of 2016, then came back in 2017-2020?

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No, if you leave completely (meaning no days of presence at all), that calendar year wouldn't count toward your 5-year exemption period. The rule specifically refers to calendar years in which you're present in the US under F1 status, even if just for one day. So in your example, if someone was present in 2013-2015, completely absent in 2016, then present again 2017-2020, their exempt years would be 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, and 2018. They would start using the Substantial Presence Test in 2019.

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I went through a very similar situation with my F1 visa tax status and understand how overwhelming it can be! Based on your timeline, you're actually dealing with two different calculations that people are mixing up in the comments. For your 5-year exempt period: You were in F1 status from 2013-2017, so those are your 5 exempt calendar years. This means for 2013-2017, you were automatically a nonresident alien regardless of days present. For 2020 tax status: Starting in 2018, you begin applying the Substantial Presence Test. Let me walk through the correct calculation: - 2020 days: 159 (meets the 31-day minimum requirement) - 2019 weighted days: 221 ÷ 3 = 73.7 - 2018 weighted days: 218 ÷ 6 = 36.3 - Total: 269 days Since 269 > 183, you would be considered a resident alien for 2020 tax purposes and should file Form 1040 (not 1040NR). However, there's one important exception to consider: the closer connection exception. If you maintained closer ties to your home country and were present less than 183 days in 2020 (which you were at 159 days), you might still qualify to be treated as a nonresident by filing Form 8840. I'd recommend consulting with a tax professional who specializes in international student taxation to review your specific situation, especially given the complexity and potential amended returns you might need to file for previous years.

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you for breaking it down so clearly! I think I was getting confused by the different advice in the comments, but your explanation makes perfect sense. So just to confirm my understanding: I'm a resident alien for 2020 tax purposes and should use Form 1040, BUT I might still be able to claim nonresident status if I file Form 8840 showing closer ties to my home country? What kind of evidence would I need to prove closer ties? I did maintain a bank account, family home, and voter registration in my home country throughout my time in the US. Would that be sufficient for the closer connection exception? Also, do you know if this affects my previous tax filings? I filed as a nonresident for 2018 and 2019, but based on this calculation, I might have been a resident alien for those years too!

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Exactly right on both counts! You can file Form 1040 as a resident alien but still elect to be treated as a nonresident by filing Form 8840 if you qualify for the closer connection exception. For the closer connection evidence, what you mentioned sounds perfect: maintaining a bank account, family home, and voter registration in your home country are exactly the types of ties the IRS looks for. Other helpful evidence includes: keeping a driver's license from your home country, maintaining professional/business relationships there, spending significant time there during breaks, having your permanent address listed as your home country address with your school, etc. Regarding your previous filings - yes, you'll likely need to review 2018 and 2019. Let me calculate those quickly: **2018**: Only counting 2018 days since it's your first year after exemption = 218 days. Since this exceeds 183, you were likely a resident alien for 2018. **2019**: - 2019 days: 221 - 2018 weighted: 218 ÷ 3 = 72.7 - Total: 293.7 days This means you were probably a resident alien for both 2018 and 2019 as well, unless you qualified for the closer connection exception those years too. You may need to file amended returns (Form 1040X) for those years if you filed as a nonresident when you should have been a resident. I'd definitely recommend getting professional help for this - the amendments can get complex, especially with potential refund implications.

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I've been through the exact same F1 visa tax confusion and want to add some clarity to the great advice already given here. The key thing that helped me understand this was realizing there are actually TWO separate tests working together: 1. **The 5-year exemption rule**: Your first 5 calendar years in F1 status (2013-2017 for you) automatically make you a nonresident alien, regardless of days present. 2. **The Substantial Presence Test**: Starting in 2018, you calculate using the weighted formula. Based on your numbers, you'd likely be a **resident alien** for 2020 tax purposes (Form 1040), but here's what saved me: the **closer connection exception** via Form 8840. Since you were present less than 183 days in 2020 (only 159), and it sounds like you maintained strong ties to your home country, you can likely still elect to be treated as a nonresident. The bank account, family home, and voter registration you mentioned would be strong evidence. **Important warning**: You'll probably need to review 2018 and 2019 too. I made the mistake of filing as nonresident those years when I should have been resident, and had to file amended returns. It was a pain but ultimately got me a refund! My advice: Get help from a tax pro who specializes in international student taxes. The potential amended returns and Form 8840 elections can get tricky, and you want to make sure you're doing everything correctly to avoid future IRS issues.

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This is such a helpful thread! As someone who just started dealing with F1 visa tax issues, I'm learning so much from everyone's experiences. I'm curious though - for those who had to file amended returns for 2018/2019, did you end up owing more money or getting refunds? I'm in a similar situation where I think I filed as nonresident when I should have been resident, and I'm worried about what that might mean financially. Also, when you filed Form 8840 for the closer connection exception, did the IRS ever question your documentation or ask for additional proof? I have similar ties to my home country but want to make sure I'm prepared if they scrutinize my claim. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's reassuring to know others have navigated this successfully!

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As someone who went through this exact F1 visa tax maze a few years ago, I can tell you that you're asking all the right questions! The confusion is totally understandable because the rules are genuinely complex. Based on your timeline, here's what I learned when I was in your shoes: **Your 5-year exempt period**: 2013-2017 were your exempt years as an F1 student. During these years, you were automatically a nonresident alien regardless of how many days you were present. **For 2020**: Starting in 2018, you begin using the Substantial Presence Test. Your calculation would be: - 2020 days: 159 - 2019 weighted (÷3): 73.7 days - 2018 weighted (÷6): 36.3 days - **Total: 269 days** Since this exceeds 183 days AND you were present more than 31 days in 2020, you'd technically be a **resident alien** for 2020 tax purposes and should use **Form 1040**. **BUT** - and this is important - since you were present less than 183 days in 2020 (only 159) and it sounds like you maintained strong ties to your home country, you might qualify for the **closer connection exception** using Form 8840. This would let you elect to be treated as a nonresident. **Red flag**: You should also check 2018 and 2019. I made the mistake of filing as nonresident those years when I was actually a resident alien under the test. Had to file amended returns, but it worked out fine. My recommendation? Find a tax professional who specializes in F1 visa situations. The potential amended returns and Form 8840 can get tricky, and you want to get it right the first time!

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