Resident Alien vs Non-Resident Alien Status - Confused About My Classification
Hey tax folks, I'm really confused about my tax status in the US for the 2024 tax year and could use some guidance. My situation: - I lived in the US from 2013 to 2016 on an H4 visa - Came back to the US in August 2023 on an F1 student visa and have been here since I tried using TurboTax to file my taxes, thinking I'd be classified as a non-resident alien because of my F1 visa status. But weirdly, TurboTax determined I'm a resident for tax purposes! This doesn't match what I understood about IRS rules for non-resident aliens and the Substantial Presence Test, especially with the exemption for F1 student visa holders. I've asked a couple friends who work with taxes and got totally different answers which just made me more confused. Some say my previous time in the US might be affecting this, others say the software must be wrong. Can anyone help me figure out my correct tax status? I really don't want to file incorrectly! Thanks so much!
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Justin Evans
Your confusion is totally understandable! The resident vs. non-resident alien status can be tricky, especially with previous stays in the US. For F1 students, you're generally considered an "exempt individual" for the Substantial Presence Test for the first 5 calendar years in the US. This means those days don't count toward the 183-day calculation that would otherwise make you a resident alien. However, there's a catch: previous stays in the US within the last three years can affect your current status. The system looks at your entire history of presence, not just your current stay. Since you were here from 2013-2016, and then returned in 2023, the software might be calculating that you've used up your exempt period. Also important - the exempt period isn't necessarily consecutive. It's about the total calendar years you've claimed the exemption. I'd recommend filling out Form 8843 (Statement for Exempt Individuals) along with either Form 1040-NR (if you're non-resident) or Form 1040 (if you're resident). You might need to calculate exactly how many exempt years you've used.
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Joshua Wood
•Thanks for your detailed response! That makes more sense now. So my previous stay (2013-2016) could be counting toward my 5-year exemption period even though there was a gap between then and now? Also, if I end up being considered a resident alien for tax purposes, does that mean I need to report my worldwide income to the IRS, not just US income? I have some savings interest from my home country.
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Justin Evans
•Yes, the 5-year exemption period counts calendar years regardless of gaps. So if you used 4 years of exemption during 2013-2016, and then returned in 2023, you'd only have 1 exempt year left. The IRS doesn't "reset the clock" just because you left the country for a while. If you're classified as a resident alien for tax purposes, then yes, you must report your worldwide income on your US tax return. This includes interest from foreign bank accounts, dividends, rental income, etc. You may also need to file FBAR (FinCEN Form 114) if your foreign accounts exceeded $10,000 at any point during the year. The good news is you might qualify for the Foreign Tax Credit if you paid taxes on that income in your home country.
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Emily Parker
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Ezra Collins
•Does this service actually work for complicated visa histories? I've been in the US on different visas (F1, then OPT, now H1B) and the tax software I used last year seemed completely confused by my situation.
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Victoria Scott
•I'm skeptical about these specialized tax services. How much did it cost? Most of these "specialized" services end up charging a fortune and give you the same info you could get from free IRS publications.
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Emily Parker
•Their analysis is specifically designed for complicated visa histories! They have a feature that tracks your entire US presence timeline across different visa types. It examines each period separately with the correct rules for each visa category (F1, J1, H1B, etc.) and gives you a visual timeline showing your status changes. The service is actually really reasonable compared to hiring a specialized international tax accountant. I can't remember the exact amount, but it was way less than the quotes I got from CPAs who specialize in expat taxes. And unlike IRS publications (which I tried reading first), they apply the rules to your specific situation and give you a definitive answer instead of making you interpret everything yourself.
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Ezra Collins
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Benjamin Johnson
If you're still struggling to get a definitive answer about your tax status, you might want to consider talking directly with the IRS. I was in a similar situation last year with confusion about my J1 visa status. After weeks of getting nowhere with online resources and tax software, I found https://claimyr.com which got me connected to an actual IRS agent in under 30 minutes! You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The agent I spoke with reviewed my entry/exit records and previous tax filings and gave me an official determination on my status. They explained exactly how the 5-year exemption applied to my specific situation and even noted it in my account so I wouldn't have issues if I got audited later. Having an official IRS determination really gave me peace of mind since I was getting so many contradictory answers from other sources.
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Zara Perez
•How does this actually work? I've tried calling the IRS directly multiple times and always get stuck on hold forever or disconnected. Do they have some special number or connection?
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Victoria Scott
•This sounds like BS honestly. There's no way to "skip the line" with the IRS. They're notoriously understaffed and everyone has to wait. I'm betting this is just another scam service that charges you for something that doesn't work.
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Benjamin Johnson
•It's not a special number - they use the regular IRS lines but have developed a system that navigates the phone trees and waits on hold for you. When an agent picks up, you get a call back immediately to connect with them. I was skeptical too until I tried it. The technology basically acts like a virtual assistant that sits on hold instead of you. The IRS wait times are ridiculous (I tried myself and gave up after 2 hours), but their system persistently stays on the line until an agent answers. When I used it, I went about my day and got a call back about 45 minutes later with an IRS agent already on the line.
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Victoria Scott
I have to follow up and admit I was completely wrong about Claimyr! After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to try it myself since I had an issue with my amended return that I'd been avoiding dealing with. The service actually worked exactly as described. I entered my phone number, and their system called the IRS and navigated through all the prompts. I got a text when an agent was reached (took about 50 minutes), and then my phone rang with the IRS agent already on the line. The agent accessed my tax records and helped resolve my resident status question on the spot. They confirmed I needed to file as a resident alien because I had already used up my exempt period from previous stays (exactly like what was discussed earlier in this thread). Saved me hours of frustration and gave me a definitive answer directly from the IRS. Sorry for being so skeptical before!
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Daniel Rogers
One important thing to consider that hasn't been mentioned yet - the "substantial presence test" works differently for F1 students vs other visa types. For most visa holders, you're a resident alien if you're in the US for 183 days in the current year OR using the formula: all days in current year + 1/3 of days in first preceding year + 1/6 of days in second preceding year. But F1 students get a special exemption for the first 5 calendar years. After that, you follow the regular substantial presence test. Your timeline suggests you might be right on the edge of this 5-year period depending on how many months you were present each year from 2013-2016.
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Joshua Wood
•That's super helpful! So I need to count exactly how many calendar years I've used my exemption. If I entered in June 2013 and left in February 2016, would that count as 4 calendar years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016) or 3 calendar years since I wasn't here for full years?
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Daniel Rogers
•It counts as 4 calendar years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016). The IRS counts any presence in a calendar year as using up that year of exemption - doesn't matter if you were only present for one day or the full year. So if you used 4 years during your previous stay, then 2023 would be your 5th and final exempt year. Starting in 2024, you'd be subject to the regular substantial presence test, which means you'd likely be a resident alien for tax purposes now since you've been continuously present.
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Aaliyah Reed
Don't forget about tax treaties! Depending on what country you're from, there might be provisions in the tax treaty between your home country and the US that could affect your tax status. Some treaties have special rules for students that extend beyond the normal 5-year exemption period. Worth checking if your country has such provisions!
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Ella Russell
•This is an excellent point. I'm from India and our tax treaty with the US allowed me to maintain non-resident status for 2 additional years beyond the standard 5-year exemption as a student. Saved me thousands on taxes from my foreign investments.
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Ethan Clark
This is such a common confusion for people with complex visa histories! I went through something very similar a few years ago. One thing that might help clarify your situation: the IRS has a specific worksheet in Publication 519 (U.S. Tax Guide for Aliens) that walks you through determining your status step by step. It's called the "Substantial Presence Test" worksheet and includes special calculations for students. Since you mentioned TurboTax classified you as a resident but you expected to be non-resident, I'd recommend double-checking a few things: 1. Did you file Form 8843 in previous years (2013-2016)? This form is required for exempt individuals and helps establish your exemption history. 2. Make sure to count ALL days of physical presence, including partial days (arrival/departure days count as full days for the test). 3. Check if your home country has a tax treaty with the US that might provide additional student exemptions beyond the standard 5 years. The good news is that if you determine you filed incorrectly, you can always amend your return. But getting it right the first time will save you hassle later! Also, keep detailed records of your entry/exit dates - I-94 records are available online and can help you reconstruct your presence history accurately.
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Diego Mendoza
•This is really helpful advice! I didn't realize there was a specific worksheet in Publication 519 - I'll definitely check that out. Quick question about the I-94 records you mentioned - are those automatically generated every time you enter/exit the US? I'm trying to piece together my exact dates from 2013-2016 and some of my passport stamps are a bit faded. Would the online I-94 system have records going back that far, or do they only keep recent entries? Also, regarding Form 8843 - I honestly don't remember if I filed this during my previous stay. I was pretty young and my tax situation was simple then (no US income). If I didn't file it back then, could that affect my current exemption status or ability to claim those years as exempt?
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