Resident or NON-resident for tax purpose? F1 and J1 visa history confusion
Hi everyone, I'm struggling to figure out my tax status and could really use some advice! I've been in and out of the US over the past few years and I'm not sure if I qualify as a resident or non-resident for my 2023 taxes. Here's my travel history: - F1 visa from August 2017 to September 2017 - F1 visa from August 2018 to May 2019 - B2 visa from June 2022 to July 2022 - B2 visa from August 2022 to September 2022 - J1-intern from July 2023 to January 2024 - Currently on J1-student intern since March 3, 2024 I tried using Sprintax to figure this out, and it says I'm a resident for tax purposes for 2023. But when I told my friends, they all said that can't be right? I'm totally confused now. This is my first time filing US taxes and I want to make sure I get it right. Thanks for any help you can give me!
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AstroAce
The key to determining your tax residency status is the Substantial Presence Test. Based on your timeline, here's how it works: For 2023 tax year, we count all days you were present in 2023, plus 1/3 of days in 2022, plus 1/6 of days in 2021. However, there's a special rule for F and J visa holders called the "exempt individual" exception. Generally, F students are exempt for 5 calendar years, and J individuals are exempt for 2 years. Looking at your history, your F1 time in 2017-2019 likely used up some exempt years. By 2023, when you were on a J1, you might have exhausted your exempt status, which means those days would count toward the Substantial Presence Test. If you were physically present for enough days in 2023 (roughly 183 days or more considering the weighted formula), Sprintax could be correct about your resident status. The J1 status from July 2023 to January 2024 is significant - that's about 6 months of presence in 2023 alone.
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Andre Laurent
•Thanks for the detailed explanation! I'm still a bit confused though. I thought F and J visas were always considered non-resident aliens for tax purposes? My J1 internship started in July 2023, so that's only about 6 months in 2023. Is that really enough to qualify me as a resident? Also, does it matter that some of my visits were as a tourist (B2 visa)? Do those days count differently?
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AstroAce
•F and J visa holders aren't automatically non-residents for tax purposes forever. The exemption is time-limited. For F students, you're typically exempt for your first 5 calendar years in the US. For J visa holders, you're typically exempt for 2 years. After those exempt periods, you're subject to the same Substantial Presence Test as everyone else. Your 6 months in 2023 on a J1 might not be enough on its own, but when you add the weighted days from previous years (1/3 of your 2022 B2 days plus 1/6 of any 2021 days), you could potentially meet the threshold. It depends on exactly how many days you were present in each period. Tourist days on a B2 visa absolutely count toward the Substantial Presence Test. There's no exemption for tourist visits, so all those days in 2022 will be counted at 1/3 value toward your 2023 calculation.
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Zoe Kyriakidou
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Jamal Brown
•Does it work for people with H1B visa history too? I've been on F1, then OPT, and now H1B and I'm never sure which test applies to me. My CPA charges me extra every time I ask questions about this stuff.
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Mei Zhang
•Sounds interesting but I'm skeptical. How does it handle the exempt individual exclusion when you've been in and out of the country? I was an F1 student for 3 years, left for 2 years, then came back as an H1B. Most tax software gets confused about whether my 5-year exempt clock restarted or continued.
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Zoe Kyriakidou
•It absolutely handles H1B visa history! The system is specifically designed for these complex situations where you've had multiple visa types. It tracks your F1 exempt years separately from your H1B status and calculates everything correctly. It saved me from paying those same CPA fees for basic visa status questions. For complex situations with gaps in US presence, the tool has specific logic to determine whether your exempt individual clock restarted or continued. It applies the correct IRS rules based on whether your absence was temporary or if you established a closer connection to another country during that time. When I uploaded my complete travel history, it correctly identified that my 2-year absence with ties to my home country actually reset my exempt individual status clock.
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Jamal Brown
I was in the exact same situation a few months ago! I tried several tax programs and was getting different answers from each one. After seeing the recommendation here, I decided to try https://taxr.ai because my visa history was quite complex (F1, OPT, then H1B with gaps in between). The tool immediately identified that I had used up my exempt years and was now subject to the Substantial Presence Test. It counted my days correctly including partial years and showed me exactly how many days counted toward each year's calculation. It even flagged a potential treaty benefit I qualified for! Filing with the correct status saved me almost $3,500 compared to what I would have paid filing as a non-resident. Definitely worth checking out if you have a complicated visa history like yours.
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Liam McConnell
If you're struggling to reach the IRS for clarification on your resident status, I highly recommend using https://claimyr.com to get through to an agent. I spent weeks trying to get someone on the phone to answer questions about my own visa situation (similar to yours with mixed F1 and J1 history). With Claimyr, I got through to an IRS agent in about 25 minutes instead of the usual 2+ hour wait, and they actually had someone who understood the exempt individual rules for students and scholars. You can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The agent confirmed for me that my J1 time did count toward the Substantial Presence Test after my exempt years expired, which was exactly what I needed to know to file correctly.
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Amara Oluwaseyi
•How does this actually work? I thought it was impossible to get through to the IRS these days. I've called at least 10 times and always get the "we're experiencing high call volume" message before it hangs up on me.
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CosmicCaptain
•This sounds like BS honestly. Why would anyone be able to get you through to the IRS faster? The IRS phone system is notoriously terrible, and no third-party service should be able to bypass their queue system. Sounds like a scam to me.
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Liam McConnell
•The service works by continuously redialing and navigating the IRS phone tree for you. When it gets through, it calls you and connects you directly to the agent. It's not bypassing the system - it's just automating the painful redial process that most of us don't have time for. The IRS has different departments that handle different issues, and they have varying wait times. The service knows which menus to navigate to get to the right department for visa and residency questions, which is often less crowded than general tax questions this time of year.
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CosmicCaptain
I was totally wrong about Claimyr and need to apologize. After posting my skeptical comment, I was desperate enough to try it since I had a similar residency question about my O-1 visa status that I couldn't resolve online. The service actually worked exactly as described! It took about 40 minutes total (still much better than my previous attempts), and I got connected to an agent who specialized in international taxpayer issues. The agent confirmed that my specific visa situation did qualify me as a resident alien after applying the Substantial Presence Test. For anyone with complex residency status questions like the original poster, getting definitive answers directly from the IRS saved me from potentially filing incorrectly and facing penalties later.
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Giovanni Rossi
One thing nobody mentioned yet - have you considered the "closer connection" exception? Even if you meet the Substantial Presence Test, you might still be able to claim non-resident status if you can demonstrate stronger ties to another country. You'd need to file Form 8840 along with your return to claim this exception. Requirements include having a tax home in another country, maintaining more significant personal/economic connections to that other country, and not having applied for a green card. This might be relevant if you're only temporarily in the US for your studies and plan to return to your home country.
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Andre Laurent
•That's really interesting! I definitely maintain stronger ties to my home country - my permanent address, bank accounts, family, etc. are all back home, and I'm planning to return after completing my program. Would this help me avoid being taxed on my worldwide income? How complicated is Form 8840 to fill out?
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Giovanni Rossi
•Form 8840 isn't particularly complicated. It asks about your tax home, where you maintain personal belongings, where your family lives, where your bank/investment accounts are located, where you're registered to vote, and similar questions to establish which country you have closer ties to. Filing with this exception would allow you to be treated as a non-resident for tax purposes, which means you'd only be taxed on your US-source income rather than worldwide income. This can make a significant difference if you have investment income, rental property, or other income sources in your home country.
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Fatima Al-Maktoum
Don't forget to check if the US has a tax treaty with your home country! This could affect your filing status and potential tax benefits regardless of whether you're classified as a resident or non-resident. Many treaties have special provisions for students and teachers that can exempt certain types of income from US taxation, even after you no longer qualify for exempt individual status under normal IRS rules.
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Dylan Mitchell
•This is so important. I'm from India and our tax treaty with the US saved me thousands. Even though I qualified as a resident under the Substantial Presence Test, certain scholarship portions were still exempt under the treaty. You need to file Form 8833 to claim treaty benefits though.
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Aria Park
This is such a complex situation that many international students face! Based on your timeline, I think Sprintax might actually be correct about your resident status for 2023, and here's why: Your F-1 visa periods in 2017-2019 would have used up some of your 5-year exempt period as a student. By 2023, when you were on a J-1 visa, you may have exhausted your exempt individual status entirely. Here's what likely happened: Your J-1 internship from July 2023 to January 2024 gave you about 184 days of US presence in 2023. Add to that the weighted calculation from your B-2 tourist visits in 2022 (each day counts as 1/3), and you could easily exceed the 183-day threshold for the Substantial Presence Test. The key insight that others haven't mentioned is that your visa history creates a "bridge" effect - your earlier F-1 time counts toward exhausting exempt years, making your later J-1 and tourist time subject to the substantial presence calculation. I'd strongly recommend getting a second opinion from a tax professional who specializes in international student taxation, because the interaction between different visa types and the timing of your exempt periods can be tricky to calculate correctly. The difference between resident and non-resident filing can be significant for your tax liability!
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JacksonHarris
•This is exactly the kind of detailed analysis I was hoping for! The "bridge" effect you mentioned makes so much sense - I never thought about how my earlier F-1 time would impact my J-1 status years later. Just to clarify - when you say I may have "exhausted my exempt individual status entirely," does that mean ALL of my days in 2023 would count toward the Substantial Presence Test, or just the days after I used up my exempt years? Also, I'm curious about the calculation with my B-2 tourist days. I was in the US for about 2 months total in 2022 on tourist visas - so that would be roughly 60 days × 1/3 = 20 days counting toward my 2023 calculation, right? You're absolutely right about getting professional help. This is way more complicated than I initially thought, and I definitely don't want to mess up my first US tax filing!
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Yara Sabbagh
•Great question about the exempt status calculation! Once you've exhausted your exempt individual years, ALL days in that tax year count toward the Substantial Presence Test - there's no partial year exemption once the clock runs out. Your B-2 calculation is exactly right: ~60 days in 2022 × 1/3 = 20 days counting toward 2023. Combined with your ~184 days of J-1 presence in 2023, you're already over the 183-day threshold (184 + 20 = 204 days). This is why understanding the "bridge" effect is so crucial - many students assume each visa period is evaluated independently, but the IRS tracks your cumulative time across all visa types when determining exempt status. One more thing to consider: even if you do qualify as a resident under the Substantial Presence Test, you might still be able to claim the "closer connection" exception that Giovanni mentioned earlier if you maintain stronger ties to your home country. This could allow you to file as a non-resident despite meeting the day count. Definitely worth consulting with a professional who can review your complete I-94 records and calculate this precisely!
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Yuki Ito
Your situation is definitely tricky, but I think I can help clarify a few things! As someone who went through a similar visa journey (F1 → OPT → H1B), I learned the hard way that the exempt individual rules are more nuanced than most people realize. The critical factor in your case is determining exactly when your F-1 exempt years were exhausted. Since you had F-1 status in 2017, 2018, and 2019, those would count as 3 of your 5 exempt calendar years. This means you might have had 2 exempt years remaining when you entered on your J-1 in 2023. However, here's where it gets complicated: if you were physically present in the US as a J-1 for more than 183 days in 2023 (which seems likely given your July 2023 - January 2024 timeline), you'd meet the substantial presence test regardless of any remaining exempt years, because J-1 interns typically only get a 2-year exemption period, and this might be applied differently than the F-1 exemption. One thing that might help: check your I-94 records at https://i94.cbp.dhs.gov/ to get the exact entry/exit dates. The precise day count matters a lot for these calculations. Also, don't overlook the closer connection exception that others mentioned - if you maintained stronger ties to your home country throughout 2023, you might be able to file as a non-resident even if you technically meet the substantial presence test. This could save you significant money if you have foreign income that would otherwise be taxable in the US.
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Joy Olmedo
•This is incredibly helpful! I never realized the J-1 intern exemption might be applied differently than F-1. I definitely need to check my exact I-94 records like you suggested. One question about the closer connection exception - I maintained my home country bank accounts, kept my permanent address there, and my family is still there. But I did open a US bank account for my J-1 stipend payments. Would having a US bank account hurt my chances of claiming closer connection to my home country? Also, when you went through your visa transition, did you end up needing to file amended returns after getting professional help, or were you able to get it right the first time? I'm worried about making a mistake that could cause problems down the road. The I-94 records tip is gold - I had no idea I could check those online. That should give me the exact day counts I need for the calculations.
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