F1 Visa Substantial Presence Test - Am I a Resident Alien for Tax Purposes?

I've been living in the US for a few years on an F1 visa as a student but now I'm working (OPT I think?). I've been trying to figure out my tax situation and it's driving me crazy! When I counted all the days I've been physically in the US, it looks like I actually meet the substantial presence test to be considered a resident alien for tax purposes. I added up all my days for the last 3 years and did the calculation (all current year days + 1/3 of last year + 1/6 of year before), and I'm well over the 183 days needed. But then I was reading the IRS website and noticed there's something about F1 students being exempt from counting days? I'm confused because I thought meeting the substantial presence test automatically makes me a resident alien for taxes. But maybe there's a special rule for F1 students that I'm missing? This makes a huge difference in how I file and what forms I need! Has anyone dealt with this before? Do I file as a nonresident or resident alien? I really don't want to mess this up and get in trouble with the IRS.

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William Schwarz

•8M

You're right to be confused - this is one of the trickier parts of the tax code for international students. Here's what you need to know: F1 students actually have a special exemption from the substantial presence test for a certain period. You're considered an "exempt individual" for the first 5 calendar years you're in the US on an F1 visa. This means those days don't count toward the substantial presence test. So even if you physically met the day count in the formula, you might still be a nonresident alien for tax purposes if you've been here less than 5 calendar years on your F1 visa. After 5 years, you start counting days normally and can potentially become a resident alien through the substantial presence test. The exemption is found in IRS Publication 519 (U.S. Tax Guide for Aliens) under the "Exempt Individual" section if you want to look it up for more details.

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William Schwarz

•8M

Yes, since you've been here for 6 years on an F1 visa, you're past the 5-year exemption period. This means you now have to count your days normally for the substantial presence test. If you meet the required number of days in the formula (which it sounds like you do), then you would typically be considered a resident alien for tax purposes. Your OPT status doesn't change this rule - it's still considered part of your F1 status for tax purposes. OPT is just an extension of your F1 status, so the same rules apply. However, if you're in the first year that you would be considered a resident alien, you might qualify for dual-status year treatment, which means filing as both a nonresident and resident for different parts of the year.

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Lauren Johnson

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Lauren Johnson

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Daniel Price

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Sophia Bennett

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Super important point that nobody mentioned yet - even after your 5 exempt years as an F1 student, you might qualify for the "closer connection exception" to the substantial presence test. Look at Form 8840. Basically, if you maintain a closer connection to your home country (bank accounts, family, home, etc. are still there) and haven't applied for a green card, you might still be able to be treated as a nonresident alien even if you meet the day count. This was huge for me because maintaining nonresident status meant I could still claim tax treaty benefits that aren't available to resident aliens!

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Sophia Bennett

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You're absolutely right, and that's a critical detail I should have mentioned. The closer connection exception only applies if you're present less than 183 days in the current calendar year alone (separate from the overall substantial presence test calculation). For someone on OPT working full-time in the US, they'd likely be over the 183-day threshold for the current year, making the closer connection exception unavailable. This is why understanding all the rules is so important - there are exceptions to the exceptions! For OPT students working full-time, once you're past the 5-year exempt period, you'll likely become a resident alien for tax purposes.

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William Schwarz

•8M

This is a great question. The exempt period for F1 students is based on your immigration status, not your physical presence. So yes, those 18 months when you were outside the US but maintaining F1 status through online classes still count toward your 5-year exempt period. However, when calculating the substantial presence test after your exempt period ends, only days you were physically present in the US count. So those 18 months wouldn't count toward the substantial presence test day count, even though they count toward using up your exempt period.

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QuantumQuester

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This is such a common source of confusion for F1 students! I went through the exact same situation a few years ago. Here's what I learned that might help: Since you've been here for 6 years on F1 status (starting 2019), you're definitely past the 5-year exempt period. This means for 2024 and going forward, all your days of physical presence in the US count toward the substantial presence test. One thing to keep in mind - even though you're now counting days normally, make sure you're calculating the substantial presence test correctly. It's not just adding up all your days - it's: (all days in current year) + (1/3 of days in prior year) + (1/6 of days in year before that) = must be 183 or more. Also, since this sounds like it might be your first year transitioning from exempt to non-exempt status, you'll likely need to file as a "dual-status alien" - meaning nonresident for part of the year and resident for part of the year. This requires some special forms and calculations. Don't stress too much about "getting in trouble" - the IRS understands these situations are complex for international students. The key is filing correctly based on your actual status, and if you're unsure, it's always worth consulting with a tax professional who specializes in international student taxes or getting clarification directly from the IRS.

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StarSailor

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This is really helpful, especially the clarification about dual-status filing! I hadn't thought about that part. Quick question though - when you mention consulting with a tax professional who specializes in international student taxes, do you have any recommendations for finding someone like that? I've contacted a few regular CPAs but they seem unfamiliar with F1 visa tax rules and the substantial presence test exemptions. It's been frustrating trying to find someone who actually understands these specific rules rather than just general tax preparation.

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