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My sister works for the IRS (not in collections) and she always says most OICs fail because people don't give COMPLETE financial information. They leave stuff out thinking the IRS wont notice. But they have ways to verify your bank accounts, property, etc. If they catch you hiding things, your offer will be rejected immediately. Also make sure you keep filing and paying current taxes while your OIC is pending! That's another common reason they get rejected.
I went through the OIC process about 3 years ago with $89k in tax debt and successfully settled for $15k. The key things that helped me were: 1. Being completely transparent about my financial situation - I included EVERYTHING, even small bank accounts with minimal balances 2. Working with the Taxpayer Advocate Service (free!) when I got stuck on paperwork 3. Including detailed documentation of my expenses and why I couldn't pay the full amount 4. Being patient - the whole process took 11 months but was worth it One thing I wish I'd known earlier: if you qualify for the low-income certification, you don't have to pay the application fee or the initial payment with your offer. This saved me $205 plus the 20% down payment I would have had to include. Also, during the review process, make sure you respond to ANY requests for additional information immediately. They give you specific deadlines and missing them will kill your application. Given your situation with no assets and limited income, you actually have a decent shot at getting approved. The IRS knows they can't get blood from a stone. Just make sure your offer reflects what you can realistically pay based on their calculation methods.
These codes got me stressing so hard I started dreaming in numbers 𤣠The IRS needs to make this stuff easier to understand for regular folks istg
Been dealing with these codes for months and finally figured it out! Code 290 = they're adding tax/adjustments to your account (bad news usually), Code 291 = they're reducing/removing previous assessments (good news!). If you see both, it means they made an adjustment then partially or fully reversed it. The key is looking at the dates and amounts to see the timeline. Pro tip: the cycle dates next to these codes tell you when each action happened, so you can follow the story of what the IRS did to your return š
Has anyone ever had success getting the IRS to move quicker on resolving an amended return situation? My accountant said amended returns are taking 6-8 months to process right now, but meanwhile I'm getting threatening CP504 notices like the original poster. It's so frustrating!
The regular processing channels are super slow, but if you can get through on the phone, explain that you're receiving collection notices, and request a "taxpayer advocate" assignment, that can sometimes speed things up. They can put an urgent flag on your case if you're facing collection actions based on incorrect information. But getting through to request this is the hard part...
I totally understand your stress - CP504 notices are designed to get your attention and they definitely do that! Your accountant's reaction actually makes sense to me. When you've been trying to resolve an issue through normal channels for months without success, sometimes escalation (like a CP504) can actually work in your favor by giving you access to different departments or priority handling. The fact that your accountant strongly advised against paying is significant. If you pay the disputed amount, you're essentially validating the IRS's incorrect assessment, and getting refunds back from the IRS is notoriously slow and difficult. It's much better to resolve the underlying error first. That said, I'd recommend asking your accountant for a detailed timeline of what's been submitted and when you can expect resolution. Also ask if he's requested any formal collection holds. Even though he seems confident, having a clear picture of the process will help reduce your anxiety. You could also consider calling the IRS yourself (or using a service to help you get through) just to verify what's on file and confirm the status - not to contradict your accountant, but just for your own peace of mind.
Has anyone used TurboTax to handle a situation like this? I'm trying to figure out where to even input this kind of expense in the software. The rental property section seems to want everything classified as either an improvement or a repair with no middle ground.
I used TurboTax last year for my rental. For expenses like this that have some gray area, I found the best approach was to split them. I put the portion that was clearly an improvement (like mature trees) under "improvements" and the rest under "repairs and maintenance." Just make sure you have good documentation explaining your reasoning in case of audit.
Based on my experience with similar rental property situations, I think you have a strong case for treating this as a business expense rather than capitalizing it. The fact that ownership transfers to the HOA is actually key here - you're essentially paying for a service that benefits your rental business (tenant privacy) without retaining the asset. I'd recommend documenting this carefully: keep your HOA bylaws showing the ownership transfer, take before/after photos, and write up a brief explanation of how this directly relates to your rental business (tenant retention, privacy needs, etc.). You might also consider getting a letter from your tenant acknowledging that the privacy landscaping was installed for their benefit - this further supports the "ordinary and necessary business expense" classification. The $3,200 amount is significant enough that you'll want to be prepared to defend your position if questioned, but the unique ownership situation really does change the typical landscaping capitalization rules in your favor.
This is really helpful advice! I hadn't thought about getting a letter from my tenant acknowledging the privacy benefit. That's a smart way to document the business purpose. Do you think it matters if I get this letter before or after the landscaping is installed? I'm wondering if getting it beforehand might look more legitimate, like it shows the expense was planned specifically for tenant needs rather than just a general property improvement I'm trying to reclassify after the fact.
Luis Johnson
One thing to be aware of - if you receive a W-2G, the IRS also received a copy. So ignoring it will definitely cause problems since they'll be expecting to see that income reported on your tax return. If you don't report the winnings that are on your W-2G, you'll almost certainly get a letter from the IRS later asking why the income wasn't included. That could potentially lead to penalties and interest on top of any taxes owed.
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Ellie Kim
ā¢This is so important! My brother ignored a W-2G from a $3k casino win thinking it wasn't a big deal, and ended up with a CP2000 notice from the IRS a year later with additional penalties. Became a much bigger headache than if he'd just reported it correctly from the start.
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Adriana Cohn
ā¢That makes sense! I definitely don't want to get in trouble with the IRS. With the casino already reporting it, I'll make sure to include it on my return. Sounds like I need to get better at keeping records of my gambling activities too, in case I can deduct some losses. Thanks for the warning!
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Dmitry Kuznetsov
Just wanted to add some clarity on the timing aspect - you don't need to wait until you receive your W-2G in the mail to start preparing. Casinos are required to give you a copy immediately when you win, and they must send the official form to you (and the IRS) by January 31st. Also, keep in mind that gambling winnings are considered "other income" and get reported on Schedule 1 (Form 1040), line 8b specifically. The withholding amount from your W-2G gets entered on your main 1040 form along with other tax payments and withholdings. One last tip - if you're planning to claim gambling losses to offset your winnings, make sure you have detailed records before you file. The IRS can be pretty strict about gambling loss documentation, so having a contemporaneous log with dates, locations, and amounts is crucial if you ever get audited.
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