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My husband and I were in a similar situation but with accounts in Europe totaling about β¬60k. We filed both FBAR and 8938 for years because our accountant said it was "better safe than sorry." This year we switched accountants and they told us we never needed the 8938! We asked about amending previous returns to remove the unnecessary forms but were advised it wasn't worth the effort since there's no penalty for over-reporting. Apparently the IRS doesn't issue refunds for the extra accounting fees we paid all those years π
Did your new accountant charge less since they didn't have to file the 8938? I'm curious because I'm paying my accountant about $400 extra for "international reporting" and now I'm wondering if I actually need all the forms they're filing.
Yes, our new accountant charges about $150 less per year since they don't prepare the unnecessary Form 8938. They explained that the FBAR filing is actually free (it's filed directly with FinCEN), so we were essentially paying extra for a form we didn't need. I'd suggest asking your accountant to break down exactly what forms they're filing for your "international reporting" fee. If your foreign assets are under the thresholds, you might only need the FBAR, which shouldn't add much to your tax prep costs since it's a relatively simple form.
Based on everyone's experiences here, it sounds like you're in good shape! I went through something very similar last year - had about $65k in foreign accounts and my accountant filed both FBAR and Form 8938 even though I was below the 8938 threshold. I was worried about the same things you mentioned, but after reading through IRS publications and speaking with a tax attorney, I learned that over-reporting foreign assets is actually quite common and not problematic at all. The IRS sees it frequently, especially from cautious preparers who want to ensure full compliance. The key thing is that your information is consistent across both forms, which creates a clean paper trail. Your voluntary late FBAR filings before any IRS contact also puts you in the best possible position penalty-wise. One thing I'd suggest is asking your accountant for next year - now that you understand the thresholds better, you can discuss whether Form 8938 is truly necessary going forward. This could save you some money on preparation fees while still maintaining full compliance with the FBAR requirements.
This is really helpful to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation! I'm curious - when you spoke with the tax attorney, did they mention anything about how long the IRS typically takes to process late FBAR filings? I'm wondering if there's a timeframe after which I can stop worrying about potential penalties. Also, you mentioned asking my accountant about dropping Form 8938 for next year - should I be concerned that this might look inconsistent to the IRS if I suddenly stop filing a form I've been including? Or do they not really track that kind of pattern?
Quick tip from someone who's been through 2 audits: Start a dedicated email folder for all tax-related expenses the moment you spend the money. Take pics of receipts immediately and email them to yourself with a descriptive subject line. I use categories like "Office Supplies 2025" or "Client Meeting March 2025." Also, for any home office deduction, take date-stamped photos of your workspace. The IRS questioned my home office in 2023, and having photos with metadata showing it was exclusively a workspace saved me. For charitable donations, always get those acknowledgment letters and keep them organized by year.
Do you think it's better to use tax software or hire an accountant if you're self-employed? I've been using TurboTax but wondering if that makes me more likely to be audited?
Tax software is fine for simpler self-employment situations, but once you're making over $50K or have multiple income streams, an accountant often pays for themselves. They catch deductions you might miss and know how to properly categorize expenses to avoid red flags. Using TurboTax doesn't increase audit risk if you're inputting everything correctly. However, a good accountant provides audit protection and will represent you if questions arise. The real audit triggers are unusual deductions, round numbers (like claiming exactly $1,000 for supplies), or reporting business losses for multiple years. Whatever system you use, documentation is your best protection!
The IRS audit process isn't as scary as most people think. I got audited in 2023 and it was basically just paperwork. My advice: don't claim expenses you can't document and be super precise with everything you report.
mine took 9 months last year but i got interest added atleast π€·ββοΈ
like 5% annually. ended up being a few hundred $ extra
CP75 audits are definitely rough - had one last year and it took about 8 months total. The key is to respond quickly with all the documentation they request (W-2s, bank statements, childcare records if you claimed EIC with kids). Don't wait for them to send follow-up letters. Also keep copies of everything you send them because they "lose" stuff sometimes. The interest does help a little when you finally get your refund but obviously waiting that long sucks.
@Julian Paolo that s'super helpful advice! Quick question - when you sent your documentation, did you use certified mail or just regular mail? I m'paranoid about them claiming they never received it. Also, did you have to provide bank statements for the whole year or just specific months?
@Julian Paolo definitely sending everything certified mail from now on! One more question - did you have to get a tax professional involved or were you able to handle the CP75 response yourself? I m'wondering if it s'worth the cost to have someone help with the documentation
Was in your exact shoes last year with $38k self-employment and two kids over 18. Thought I was going to owe thousands, but you know what? After claiming my legitimate business deductions (home office, mileage, supplies, health insurance premiums), the QBI deduction, and finding out my 19-year-old still qualified as my dependent because she was a full-time student, I only ended up owing $2,100. Not great, but way better than the $7k I was panicking about! Set up an IRS payment plan and now I'm making quarterly payments for 2024. Doesn't the whole self-employment tax system seem designed to trip us up?
I'm in almost the identical situation - self-employed with around $36k income and two adult kids (19 and 21). What I learned from my tax preparer last year is that the key factors are: 1) Whether your daughters qualify as dependents (the college student rule for the 20-year-old is crucial), 2) Tracking every possible business expense you can legitimately claim, and 3) Don't forget about the QBI deduction which can reduce your taxable income by up to 20%. Based on similar situations I've seen in this community, you're probably looking at owing somewhere between $3,000-$5,000, but it could be significantly less with proper deductions. The good news is the IRS offers reasonable payment plans if you can't pay it all at once. Have you been keeping receipts for business expenses throughout the year?
This is really helpful! I'm new to being self-employed and had no idea about the QBI deduction - that sounds like it could make a big difference. Can you explain more about what qualifies as legitimate business expenses? I've been keeping some receipts but I'm honestly not sure what I can and can't deduct. Also, for the college student rule - does it matter if my daughter is taking online classes or does it have to be traditional on-campus enrollment? I'm trying to figure out if I've been overthinking this whole tax situation or if I really should be as worried as I am!
Diego Chavez
pro tip: take a picture of the letter before you do anything with it. trust me on this one
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Emma Wilson
β’good idea! doing that rn
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Elijah Knight
I've been through this exact same thing! Got my letter last month and was terrified to open it too. Turned out to be just a routine verification request. The key is to respond quickly - don't let it sit around. If you need help understanding what they're asking for, there are plenty of people here who can walk you through it step by step.
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Miguel Alvarez
β’This is so reassuring to hear! I'm new to dealing with IRS stuff and seeing everyone's experiences here really helps calm the nerves. Quick question - when you say respond quickly, what's the typical timeframe they give you? I want to make sure I don't miss any deadlines if I get something similar.
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