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Ravi Kapoor

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Miguel, I completely understand the stress you're going through - car troubles when you need to get to work are the worst! Unfortunately, once you've filed with the IRS, traditional refund advances aren't an option since those are tied to the actual tax prep service. However, there's some good news! The IRS has been processing returns much faster this year. Since you filed electronically 2 weeks ago, you're likely getting close to seeing your refund. Keep checking the "Where's My Refund?" tool daily - many people are getting their money in 10-14 days instead of the full 21. For your immediate $1,500 need, I'd suggest calling your bank or credit union first. Many offer small personal loans with quick approval, especially if you can show them your pending refund documentation. Credit unions are particularly good for emergency loans with reasonable rates. Also worth asking the repair shop about payment plans - many mechanics understand that people need their cars for work and will work with you if they know payment is coming. Some will even call your bank to verify the pending refund. Hang in there! Your refund should arrive soon, and there are definitely ways to bridge this gap without resorting to expensive payday loans.

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Ellie Perry

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This is really helpful advice, Ravi! I'd also suggest that @f791cdc18483 might want to check if any family members or close friends could help with a short-term loan, especially since you can show them the pending refund documentation. Sometimes people are more willing to lend money when they know exactly when they'll get it back. Another option that hasn't been mentioned yet - some employers have employee assistance programs (EAPs) that include emergency financial assistance or can connect you with low-interest loan resources. It's worth checking with your HR department to see what might be available. The key thing is not to panic and avoid high-interest payday loans if at all possible. With your refund coming soon, you just need to bridge a short gap, and there are much better options than those predatory lenders. Stay strong - you'll get through this!

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Collins Angel

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Hey Miguel, I'm really sorry to hear about your car situation - that timing couldn't be worse! Unfortunately, once you've already filed your return with the IRS, you can't get a traditional refund advance since those are only offered as part of the tax preparation process before filing. The good news is that the IRS has been processing returns much faster this year than their 21-day estimate. Since you filed electronically 2 weeks ago, your refund could honestly arrive any day now - many people are seeing them in 10-14 days. Make sure to check the "Where's My Refund?" tool daily for updates. For your immediate $1,500 need, I'd definitely recommend calling your bank or credit union first. Many offer quick personal loans to existing customers, especially when you can provide documentation of your pending refund. Credit unions tend to be particularly helpful for emergency situations like this with much better rates than payday lenders. Also, don't overlook talking to the repair shop directly - many mechanics understand that people need their cars to work and will set up payment plans, especially when you can show proof of your incoming refund. Some will even work with partial payments to get you back on the road. Hang in there - you're so close to getting your refund, and there are definitely better options than waiting it out completely!

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This is all really solid advice! I just wanted to add that if you do end up talking to the repair shop about payment plans, it might help to bring a printed copy of your tax return acknowledgment or the "Where's My Refund?" status page to show them. Having that physical documentation can make shop owners much more comfortable working with you since it proves the money is actually coming. Also, @f791cdc18483 - if your bank doesn't offer good loan options, don't forget about online lenders like SoFi or Marcus that sometimes have faster approval processes. Just make sure to avoid anything with predatory terms. With a $2,900 refund coming, you have lots of good options that don't involve high-interest payday loans. Hope you get back on the road soon! Car troubles are stressful enough without worrying about getting to work.

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Felix Grigori

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Don't forget you need to meet ALL FOUR TESTS for R&D credit: 1) Permitted purpose (creating new/improved functionality) 2) Technical in nature (relies on hard sciences) 3) Technical uncertainty (don't know how to do it from the start) 4) Process of experimentation (systematic evaluation of alternatives) Most software companies fail on #3 and #4. If you know how to build it using existing techniques, it's not eligible even if the software itself is new!

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Felicity Bud

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I think you're being too strict. Our CPA said almost all new software development has technical uncertainty because you're creating something that didn't exist before. He said as long as we're not just doing routine maintenance or minor updates, most development work qualifies.

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Felix Grigori

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Your CPA is giving you risky advice. The IRS has been cracking down on software R&D claims specifically. The "technical uncertainty" doesn't mean uncertainty about requirements or what to build - it means uncertainty about HOW to build it from a technical perspective. If your developers know the technical approach from the start and are just implementing it, that fails the uncertainty test. The IRS looks for evidence that you faced technical challenges that couldn't be resolved using existing knowledge and had to experiment to find solutions. If you're just using established programming techniques to create new features, that's not qualified research in the eyes of the IRS - even if the resulting software is innovative. Document your failed approaches and technical dead-ends carefully if you want your claim to stand up to scrutiny.

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Aisha Rahman

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Great discussion everyone! As someone who's been through multiple R&D credit audits, I want to emphasize that documentation is absolutely critical. The IRS doesn't just look at what you claim - they want to see contemporaneous records proving your activities met all four tests. A few practical tips: Start keeping detailed project logs NOW, not when you file your return. Have your developers note when they're experimenting with new approaches versus implementing known solutions. Save failed prototypes and document why they didn't work. Meeting notes discussing technical roadblocks are gold during audits. Also, be conservative with your claims initially. It's better to claim less and be audit-proof than to be aggressive and face penalties. The R&D credit can be carried forward for 20 years, so you're not losing anything by being cautious while you build better documentation systems. One last thing - consider getting a technical memo prepared by a qualified professional that maps your specific activities to the four-part test. This shows the IRS you took the requirements seriously and can be your best defense if questioned.

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Jabari-Jo

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This is incredibly helpful advice, thank you! I'm realizing we've been pretty casual about documenting our development process. Do you have any recommendations for tools or templates that make it easier to maintain these contemporaneous records without slowing down the development team too much? Also, when you mention "technical memo" - is this something our regular tax preparer could handle, or do we need someone who specializes specifically in R&D credits? We want to make sure we're getting the right level of expertise given how strict the requirements seem to be.

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Jessica Nolan

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar situation with my YouTube channel and was completely lost about the VAT implications. From what I'm gathering, since I'm way below the Β£85k threshold and just offering general "thank you" messages rather than specific services, I should be okay treating these as donations for tax purposes. One question though - does anyone know if there's a difference between one-off donations vs. monthly recurring supporters? I have some patrons who send Β£3-5 monthly, and I'm wondering if the recurring nature changes how HMRC views these transactions. Also keeping detailed records seems crucial regardless of the VAT situation - has anyone found good templates for tracking these micro-donations efficiently?

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Aaliyah Reed

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Welcome to the community! From my understanding, the recurring vs one-off distinction doesn't typically change the VAT treatment - it's more about what you're providing in return. If you're just sending thank you messages for both types, they should be treated the same way tax-wise. For tracking, I've found a simple spreadsheet works well - date, amount, supporter name (if provided), and platform fees. Some people use accounting software like FreeAgent or Xero which can categorize these automatically. The key is consistency in how you record them. Since you mentioned YouTube, you might also want to track any Super Chat or channel membership income the same way for consistency across platforms.

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Great discussion everyone! As someone who's been through this exact situation with my freelance writing business, I can confirm that the VAT threshold is your friend here. Since you're well below Β£85k, you don't need to register for VAT or charge it on these donations. The key distinction everyone's touched on is crucial - if you're genuinely just accepting donations without providing specific goods or services in return, these aren't subject to VAT regardless. However, if you start offering exclusive content, early access, or other perks, you're moving into service territory. For record keeping, I'd recommend documenting your Buy Me A Coffee setup clearly - what (if anything) supporters receive, how you've structured it, etc. This helps demonstrate your intent if HMRC ever has questions. Also keep good records of the income for your self-assessment, even though VAT isn't a concern at your level. One practical tip: consider keeping your "thank you" rewards generic rather than promising specific deliverables. A simple "thanks for supporting my work!" keeps things clearly in donation territory versus "you'll get exclusive articles" which creates a service relationship.

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Emma Johnson

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This is exactly the kind of clear guidance I was hoping for! The point about keeping rewards generic versus specific deliverables is really helpful - I hadn't thought about how the wording could affect the tax treatment. I'm curious about one scenario though - if I occasionally mention supporters by name in my content (like "thanks to Sarah and Mike for their support this week"), does that cross the line into providing a service? It's not something I promise or guarantee, just something I do when I remember to. Want to make sure I'm not accidentally creating a taxable situation with these casual shout-outs!

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Caleb Bell

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This thread has been incredibly helpful - thank you all for sharing your experiences and strategies! I'm dealing with a similar S-Corp revocation delay situation with one of my clients, and seeing the different approaches people have taken gives me much more confidence in how to proceed. Based on what I'm reading here, it sounds like the combination approach might be most effective: filing a detailed reasonable cause request with Form 1120 for the affected years, while simultaneously pursuing TAS intervention through Form 911. The key seems to be documenting everything thoroughly and emphasizing both the client's good faith reliance on the original submission and the IRS's processing failure. One thing I'm curious about - for those who successfully obtained retroactive relief, how detailed did you get in documenting that your clients weren't operating as S-Corps during the delay period? I'm thinking specifically about things like board resolutions, meeting minutes, or other corporate governance documents that might support the narrative that they genuinely believed the revocation was effective. Also, has anyone had success with including a timeline document that clearly shows the sequence of events and IRS response delays? It seems like creating a clear chronology might help the reviewing agent understand just how unreasonable the processing delays were.

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Lucas Adams

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Great question about documentation! For clients I've helped with similar situations, I found that creating a comprehensive "good faith compliance" package was crucial. This included board resolutions from the period showing they made business decisions as a C-Corp, bank statements showing no S-Corp distributions, payroll records confirming no officer salary requirements were met, and even correspondence with their accountant showing they were preparing for C-Corp tax treatment. The timeline document you mentioned is absolutely essential - I created a detailed chronology that started with the original revocation submission date, included every attempt to follow up with the IRS, documented the lack of meaningful responses, and showed key business decisions made in reliance on the believed revocation. The visual timeline really helps the reviewing agent see the pattern of good faith reliance followed by IRS processing failure. One thing that seemed to carry extra weight was including evidence of third-party reliance - like correspondence with lenders or business partners where the client represented themselves as a C-Corp during the delay period. This shows the revocation belief wasn't just internal but influenced external business relationships. The combination approach you're considering is definitely the way to go based on what I've seen work.

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NeonNova

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This is such a comprehensive discussion - really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences! As someone new to handling S-Corp election issues, I'm learning a lot from the different strategies outlined here. One additional consideration I wanted to mention: if your client is moving forward with the reasonable cause approach, make sure to address the "protective election" concept in your letter. Since the IRS's delayed response effectively prevented your client from making a timely revocation for subsequent years, you might want to request that any approved revocation be treated as a protective election that covers all years from the original intended effective date through the current filing. Also, I've found it helpful to include a "but for" analysis in reasonable cause letters - essentially arguing that "but for" the IRS's processing delay and inadequate response, your client would have been able to comply properly with all requirements. This helps establish the causal connection between the IRS's actions and your client's current predicament. The documentation suggestions from @Lucas Adams about third-party reliance are spot on. If your client signed any contracts, loan agreements, or business documents during this period where they identified as a C-Corp, that's golden evidence of their good faith belief that the revocation was effective.

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Daniela Rossi

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This is really helpful advice about the "protective election" concept and "but for" analysis - I hadn't considered framing it that way! As someone relatively new to tax practice, I'm wondering about the mechanics of requesting protective election treatment. Is this something you explicitly state in the reasonable cause letter, or is it more of a legal argument that gets woven throughout the explanation? Also, regarding the third-party documentation @Lucas Adams mentioned - would things like business insurance applications where they listed entity type as Corporation "rather" than S-Corporation "during" this period count as evidence of good faith reliance? I m'trying to think of all the places where my client might have documented their belief that the revocation was effective. The timeline approach seems crucial based on what everyone is saying. I m'dealing with a similar 15-month delay situation, and creating that visual chronology of IRS non-response versus client s'consistent C-Corp behavior seems like it would really drive home the unfairness of the situation to whoever reviews the case.

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Reading through all these excellent suggestions, I'm hopeful you'll find a solution! One additional approach that might help: some banks have "exception approval committees" that meet weekly to review unusual circumstances. If the front-line staff and branch managers can't help, ask specifically if your situation can be submitted to their exception committee for review. Frame it as a request for reasonable accommodation due to medical circumstances and work schedule conflicts. Also, consider timing your calls strategically. I've found that calling banks mid-morning (around 10am) often connects you with more experienced staff who have greater authority to make decisions. Avoid calling first thing in the morning or right before closing when you're more likely to get rushed responses. If all else fails and you do need to use a check cashing service temporarily, try calling local grocery stores with customer service desks. Some offer check cashing with lower fees than dedicated check cashing businesses, especially for tax refund checks. Just make sure they can handle the amount - many have lower limits than what you need. The combination of your medical treatments and your husband's work schedule creating this timing conflict is exactly the type of situation banks' accommodation policies are designed to address. Stay persistent and keep escalating until you find someone with the authority to help!

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The Boss

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The exception approval committee approach is such a smart strategy! I hadn't realized that banks might have formal processes for reviewing unusual circumstances like this. It makes sense that they would need some kind of structured way to handle situations that don't fit their standard policies. The timing tip about calling mid-morning is also really practical - I can see how staff would be more available to give thoughtful attention to complex requests when they're not dealing with opening rush or closing procedures. This whole thread has been incredible for learning about all the different levers we can pull when dealing with banking bureaucracy. Between accommodation requests, mobile notaries, weekend branches, employer partnerships, and now exception committees, there are so many more options than I initially realized. It's giving me real confidence that persistence and the right approach will eventually lead to a solution!

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What an incredibly comprehensive thread! As someone who works in financial services, I'm impressed by the range of creative solutions everyone has shared. One additional option I haven't seen mentioned is asking your bank about their "emergency services" or "urgent banking" department. Many larger banks have specialized teams that handle time-sensitive situations involving large amounts - they're often separate from regular customer service and have more authority to approve accommodations. Also, given that this is a tax refund check specifically, some banks have special procedures for IRS-issued checks that differ from their general joint payee policies. When you call, mention that this is an IRS tax refund check rather than just describing it as a joint check - this distinction might trigger different handling procedures. The medical accommodation angle really is your strongest approach here. Under federal banking regulations, financial institutions are required to provide reasonable accommodations for customers with medical needs. Your ongoing treatment schedule absolutely qualifies, and the bank should work with you to find a solution that doesn't require both parties to be physically present during standard business hours. One last thought: if your bank ultimately won't budge, consider opening a basic account at a local credit union just for this transaction. Many credit unions have much more flexible policies for member services and may be willing to cash the check even if you're not an established customer, especially if you're opening an account with the proceeds. Keep us updated on what works! This thread has become an invaluable resource for anyone facing similar banking challenges.

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