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Has anyone considered the flipside? If the tenant pays utilities directly, does that mean the TENANT can deduct those utilities somehow? Like as a home office deduction if they work from home? Just curious if there's any benefit to the tenant for paying utilities directly vs having them included in rent.
Tenants generally can't deduct regular household utilities, even if they work from home. The home office deduction works differently - they could potentially deduct a PORTION of utilities based on the percentage of the home used exclusively for business. But that's true regardless of whether they pay utilities directly or if utilities are bundled into rent. The tenant doesn't get any special tax treatment just because they pay utilities directly vs having them included in rent. The only real difference is that with direct payment, they have more control over usage and can potentially save money by being more energy-conscious.
I went through this exact same situation with my duplex rental last year. The bottom line is definitely no - you cannot deduct utilities that your tenant pays directly to the utility companies. The IRS is very clear that you can only deduct expenses that you actually paid out of pocket. However, don't let this discourage you from the tenant-pays-utilities arrangement! There are actually some advantages to this setup. You don't have to worry about tenants leaving lights on or cranking up the heat since they're paying the bill. Plus, you avoid the hassle of having to collect utility reimbursements or dealing with seasonal fluctuations in your cash flow. Just make sure you're capturing all the deductions you ARE entitled to - property management fees, repairs, maintenance, insurance, property taxes, depreciation, etc. Those can add up to significant savings even without the utility deductions.
That's a great point about the advantages of having tenants pay utilities directly! I never thought about it from the cash flow perspective. I'm actually considering switching my rental arrangement to have tenants pay utilities directly for exactly those reasons - no more worrying about them blasting the AC all summer on my dime. Quick question though - when you made that switch, did you adjust the rent at all to account for the tenant now being responsible for utilities? I'm trying to figure out if I should lower the rent slightly since they're taking on that additional expense, or if the market rent should stay the same regardless of the utility arrangement.
I've been researching this exact same question for my tech consulting LLC as a non-US resident from the UK. After reading through everyone's experiences here, I'm leaning heavily toward Wise Business, especially after seeing the detailed comparisons. One aspect I haven't seen discussed much is the impact on quarterly tax payments to the IRS. Does anyone know if there are differences in how Mercury vs Wise handles the electronic federal tax payment system (EFTPS)? I need to make estimated tax payments for my LLC and want to ensure whichever bank I choose integrates smoothly with IRS payment systems. Also, for those using Wise Business - have you encountered any issues with US vendors or clients who specifically require payments from "traditional" US banks for their compliance requirements? I have a few potential enterprise clients who mentioned strict banking requirements in their vendor agreements. The fee savings with Wise seem compelling based on what everyone's shared, but I want to make sure I'm not creating any operational headaches down the road. Any insights would be really helpful as I make this decision!
Great questions about EFTPS and enterprise client requirements! I can share some insights from my experience with Wise Business over the past year. For IRS payments through EFTPS, Wise Business works perfectly fine. The system recognizes the US routing and account numbers just like any traditional bank. I've been making quarterly estimated tax payments without any issues. The key is making sure you register your Wise account details correctly in the EFTPS system during setup. Regarding enterprise clients with strict banking requirements - this has come up twice for me. In both cases, the clients' compliance teams were initially concerned when they saw "Wise" on banking documentation, but once I provided them with the US routing number and explained that it functions as a standard US bank account for all practical purposes, they approved it. Some larger corporations do have policies requiring "FDIC-insured" institutions, which could be a potential issue since Wise isn't technically a bank. One workaround I've used is keeping a small balance Mercury account open specifically for clients with strict traditional banking requirements, while using Wise for everything else. The minimal Mercury fees for a low-balance account are worth it for those few enterprise deals. For what it's worth, about 90% of my clients (including some fairly large ones) have had zero issues with Wise Business banking details.
I've been using Wise Business for my digital marketing LLC as a non-US resident (based in Ireland) for about 14 months now, and I wanted to add some practical insights that might help with your decision. The CRS reporting with Wise has been straightforward in my experience. They send you clear notifications about what information is being shared with your home country's tax authorities - typically account balances and transaction summaries. Since Ireland participates in CRS, I receive these notifications annually, and the information aligns perfectly with what I report on my Irish tax returns. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is their physical debit card, which has been incredibly useful for business expenses when traveling to the US. You can spend directly from your USD balance without conversion fees, or from other currency balances with their excellent exchange rates. The mobile app's expense categorization features have also been a pleasant surprise - much better than what I experienced with traditional banks. It automatically categorizes transactions and makes quarterly tax prep much easier. My only caution would be around their customer support during high-volume periods (like year-end). Response times can stretch to 2-3 days, so plan accordingly if you need urgent assistance. But for day-to-day operations, Wise Business has exceeded my expectations and the cost savings compared to traditional banking have been substantial.
Just wanted to add another perspective here - even if you're not required to file, there's also the psychological benefit of staying in the habit. I skipped filing one year when I had minimal income and it made me feel disconnected from my financial responsibilities. When I started working again the following year, I found myself less prepared for tax season because I'd gotten out of the routine. Filing even with zero income keeps you engaged with the process and helps you understand how different types of income and losses affect your taxes. Plus, if you use tax software, many of them are free for simple returns. It's actually good practice to walk through the filing process when the stakes are low (no income to mess up) rather than when you have a complex tax situation later.
That's such a great point about staying in the habit! I never thought about the psychological aspect, but you're absolutely right. I've been out of work for over a year now and I can already feel myself getting anxious about taxes in general. Filing this year even with basically no income would probably help me feel more confident when I do start working again. Plus, like others mentioned, I could establish those investment losses on record. Thanks for that perspective - it's making me lean more toward filing even though I technically don't have to.
I'm a tax professional and wanted to add some clarity to this discussion. While you're technically not required to file with such minimal income, I strongly recommend you do file for 2023. Here's why: First, those $3,000 investment losses are valuable! You can claim up to $3,000 in net capital losses against ordinary income each year, and any excess carries forward indefinitely. Even if you don't have income now to offset, those losses will be waiting for you when you do start earning again. Second, the $200 cash income from yard work - while minimal - should technically be reported if you file. The IRS doesn't have a "de minimis" exception for small amounts of income. Third, filing establishes a paper trail with the IRS showing your financial activity (or lack thereof) for 2023. This can be helpful if you're ever questioned about your income in future years. The process is straightforward: you'd file Form 1040 with Schedule D (Capital Gains and Losses) and Form 8949 (Sales and Other Dispositions of Capital Assets) to report your investment losses. Most free tax software can handle this easily, and since you won't owe any taxes, there's no cost to file electronically. Bottom line: file the return, claim those losses, and set yourself up for future tax benefits when you're working again.
This is exactly the kind of professional advice I was hoping to see! As someone new to this community, I really appreciate the detailed breakdown. I'm in a somewhat similar situation - had very little income last year but some cryptocurrency losses that I wasn't sure how to handle. Your explanation about establishing a paper trail makes a lot of sense. I was worried about filing "unnecessarily" but now I understand it's more about protecting future opportunities than just meeting current requirements. The fact that those losses carry forward indefinitely is huge - I had no idea they didn't expire after a certain period. Quick follow-up question: when you mention Form 8949 for investment losses, does that apply to cryptocurrency losses as well? I know crypto is treated as property for tax purposes, but I want to make sure I'm using the right forms when I file.
Is anyone else annoyed that tax software asks for stuff that isn't clearly marked on our forms? I've been dealing with this for years and it feels intentional - like they want to confuse us into paying for their deluxe versions or support.
100% agree. Last year I tried three different "free" tax programs and every single one had these weird questions that seemed designed to trip you up. Then they offer to "solve" the problem by upgrading to their paid version. Feels super predatory.
I totally understand your frustration - I had the exact same issue last year with TurboTax asking for a "State ID number" that I couldn't find anywhere on my 1099-B. After reading through all these responses, it sounds like the consensus is that this is your broker's state tax identification number, and if there's no state tax withheld (which shows as $0 on your form), you can usually leave that field blank. What helped me was calling my broker directly - they were able to tell me right away whether they had a state ID number for my state and whether it was needed for my specific situation. Most customer service reps at brokerages are familiar with this question since it comes up during tax season. The good news is that even if you accidentally leave it blank when it should be filled in, or vice versa, it's not likely to cause major issues with your return. The IRS is mainly concerned with the actual income amounts and any withholding, not so much the administrative ID numbers.
This is really helpful advice! I'm dealing with the same situation and was getting stressed about potentially making a mistake. Calling the broker directly is a great idea - I didn't even think of that option. Do you remember roughly how long you had to wait on hold when you called? I'm wondering if it's worth trying during off-peak hours or if tax season makes all the wait times terrible regardless.
Emma Davis
Also worth noting that NC typically processes e-filed returns much faster than paper ones. If you e-filed and it's been more than 3 weeks, that's when I'd start following up. The "Where's My Refund" tool on ncdor.gov usually updates once a week, so don't panic if it doesn't change daily.
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LongPeri
ā¢Good point about the weekly updates! I was checking mine daily and getting worried when nothing changed. Also if you're expecting a big refund they sometimes do extra verification which can add a few more weeks to the process.
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Rita Jacobs
ā¢That's really helpful to know about the weekly updates! I've been refreshing the page multiple times a day thinking something was wrong. The verification thing makes sense too - I claimed some education credits so that might be why mine is taking longer than expected.
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Emma Garcia
Pro tip: if you're having trouble with the NC site being down, try checking early morning or late evening when there's less traffic. Also make sure you have your exact refund amount from your return - if you're off by even a dollar it won't let you in. Been through this myself and it's frustrating but the system is pretty strict about matching info exactly.
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Felicity Bud
ā¢Thanks for the timing tip! I tried checking around 6am this morning and the site loaded way faster than when I usually check during lunch. The exact amount thing is so annoying though - I had to dig through my tax software to find the precise number because I was rounding it in my head.
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