First time married: Why is Filing Single vs MFS vs MFJ showing such different refund amounts?
Just finished our first year of marriage and now tackling our taxes together. I'm completely confused by the results I'm seeing in FreeTaxUSA and hoping someone can explain what's happening. I decided to run mock filings using all three options (Single, MFS, and MFJ) to compare the outcomes, and the results have me totally bewildered: For me: - Single: Getting back around $530 - MFS: Owing about $75 For my spouse: - Single: Owing approximately $4100 - MFS: Owing approximately $4100 Combined as MFJ: - Owing approximately $3800 We're both in the same tax bracket, don't have a house, and no dependents (unless chihuahuas suddenly became tax deductible when I wasn't looking). My spouse knows why they owe so much - something about withholding that should be fixed for next year. My biggest question: Why are MY numbers so different between Single and MFS? I can't find a clear explanation anywhere. It feels like I'm being penalized for getting married, but then my spouse's numbers are identical either way, which confuses me even more. Also, why is our MFJ amount ($3800 owed) less than if you added our separate MFS amounts ($75 + $4100 = $4175)? I've read that MFJ is usually better, but I don't understand the actual mechanics of why filing jointly made our total decrease. Any insights would be greatly appreciated! Happy to provide more details if needed.
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Butch Sledgehammer
The differences you're seeing are completely normal and are due to how the tax code treats different filing statuses. Let me break this down: First, legally you can't file as Single once you're married (unless you were unmarried on December 31st). Your mock Single filing isn't actually an option, but it does show you something interesting. The difference between your Single and MFS results happens because MFS uses different tax brackets and deduction amounts than Single status. MFS generally has less favorable tax brackets and limitations on certain deductions and credits that Single filers can claim. That's why your return changed from getting $530 back to owing $75. As for why your spouse's numbers stayed the same while yours changed - this likely relates to their specific income level and withholding situation. Some income levels are affected more dramatically by the filing status change than others. Regarding why MFJ ($3800 owed) is better than your combined MFS amounts ($4175) - this is exactly why most couples benefit from filing jointly! MFJ provides more favorable tax brackets, higher standard deductions, and access to certain credits and deductions that MFS filers lose. The tax code was designed to benefit joint filers in most cases.
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Sara Unger
•Thanks for the explanation! So even though I can't actually file as Single, it's interesting to see the difference. Just to clarify - are the MFS brackets really that different from Single brackets? It seems weird that just changing my filing status (while everything else stays the same) would cost me over $600 in taxes. Also, is there any way to figure out why my spouse's numbers didn't change between Single and MFS while mine did? We both make about the same amount.
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Butch Sledgehammer
•Yes, the MFS brackets are definitely different enough from Single brackets to cause that $600 difference. For 2023, MFS brackets start at lower income thresholds for each tax rate compared to Single. Plus, MFS filers lose access to certain credits and deductions or have lower thresholds for them. Your spouse's numbers likely didn't change because of their specific income level and deduction situation. If they're already in a higher bracket or have specific deductions that aren't affected by filing status change, the impact might be minimal. Without seeing your exact income and deduction details, it's hard to pinpoint, but it's not unusual for filing status changes to affect spouses differently even with similar incomes.
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Freya Ross
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Leslie Parker
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Leslie Parker
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Juan Moreno
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Amy Fleming
Tax preparer here. The difference between filing statuses isn't just about tax brackets, but also about which credits and deductions you qualify for. Here's a quick breakdown: 1. When you file MFS, you lose access to several valuable credits like the Earned Income Credit, education credits, and the child and dependent care credit. 2. Standard deduction for MFS ($13,850 in 2023) is half of MFJ ($27,700), but the standard deduction for Single ($13,850) is the same as MFS. 3. Tax brackets are different - MFS brackets are compressed compared to Single brackets. 4. When you file MFJ, your combined income might push you into a higher bracket, but the brackets are wider so often the overall tax is lower than two separate MFS returns. In your case, MFJ is clearly saving you about $300 compared to filing separately, which is common. The reason your spouse's numbers stayed the same while yours changed probably relates to their specific income level and types of income.
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Alice Pierce
•Wait, are the standard deductions for Single and MFS really exactly the same? I thought MFS was disadvantaged in every way compared to Single. If I make $50k and file as Single vs. MFS, would I get the exact same standard deduction either way?
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Amy Fleming
•Yes, for 2023 the standard deduction for both Single and MFS is $13,850. This is one of the few areas where MFS isn't disadvantaged compared to Single. If you make $50k, you'd get the same standard deduction amount whether filing as Single or MFS. However, the tax brackets are still different, and MFS loses access to many credits and deductions that Single filers can claim. That's likely why the OP saw their refund change by $600 despite having the same standard deduction - it's those other factors causing the difference.
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Esteban Tate
I'm surprised no one mentioned the actual mechanics of WHY the MFJ amount is less than your combined MFS amounts. It's because of how progressive tax brackets work. Say you each make $75k. Filing separately, each of you would have some money taxed at 10%, some at 12%, some at 22%, etc. based on the MFS brackets. But when you combine incomes for MFJ, the brackets are wider. So more of your combined $150k gets taxed at lower rates than when split between two MFS returns. It's like if you had two half-full glasses of water. If you pour them both into a bigger glass, the water level might be lower in the bigger glass because it has a wider base, even though it's the same amount of water. That's an oversimplified explanation, but that's the basic concept of why MFJ often results in lower total tax than MFS combined.
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Ivanna St. Pierre
•Love this explanation! The water glass analogy finally made this click for me after years of being confused about it. Does this always work out better for couples or are there situations where MFS would actually be better?
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Kara Yoshida
•Great question! There are definitely situations where MFS can be better than MFJ. The main scenarios are: 1. When one spouse has significant medical expenses - the 7.5% AGI threshold for medical deductions is based on individual income with MFS, so if one spouse has low income but high medical bills, they might qualify for deductions they'd lose with combined MFJ income. 2. Student loan income-driven repayment plans - some plans base payments on individual income when filing MFS versus combined income with MFJ. 3. When one spouse has significant miscellaneous itemized deductions subject to AGI limits. 4. In some cases involving the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT). 5. If one spouse owes back taxes or has liens, filing MFS can protect the other spouse's refund. The key is running the numbers both ways, which sounds like Sara did. For most couples, MFJ wins, but it's always worth checking both options, especially if you have any of these special circumstances.
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Emma Taylor
This is such a common confusion for newlyweds! I went through the exact same thing two years ago and it's frustrating how the tax software doesn't explain WHY the numbers change so dramatically. One thing that might help explain your specific situation: the difference in how your numbers changed versus your spouse's likely comes down to your withholding patterns throughout the year. When you were both single, your employers withheld taxes based on single filing status. But once married, if you both continued having taxes withheld as if you were single, one of you might have had "too much" withheld relative to your MFS liability while the other had "too little." The fact that your spouse owes the same amount whether filing single or MFS suggests their withholding was already insufficient for their tax liability. But your withholding as a single person was probably close to perfect for single status, which is why you were getting a refund. When you switch to MFS, you're now subject to different (less favorable) brackets and limitations, so that same withholding amount is no longer enough. For next year, definitely update both of your W-4s to reflect your married status. The IRS W-4 estimator on their website is actually pretty good for this, and it will help you avoid owing so much next year.
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Lucas Notre-Dame
•This is such a great explanation of the withholding piece! I've been wondering about this exact thing since posting. It makes total sense that my withholding as a "single" person would be appropriate for single status but not for MFS status. I'm definitely going to use the IRS W-4 estimator you mentioned. Do you remember if it walks you through the married filing jointly calculations, or do I need to figure out our combined situation separately? Since we're planning to file MFJ going forward, I want to make sure we get the withholding right for that filing status specifically. Also, should we both update our W-4s at the same time, or is it okay to stagger the changes? I don't want to accidentally mess up our withholding in the other direction and end up with a huge refund next year either.
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