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Ben Cooper

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I made the mistake of letting a "tax preparer" use my TurboTax account last year. Turned out they filed returns for like 5 other people using my account!!! The IRS flagged it and I had to deal with proving I wasn't running some tax fraud scheme. CHANGE YOUR PASSWORD IMMEDIATELY and check if any other returns have been filed under your account!!! This could be serious!!!

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Naila Gordon

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OMG that's terrifying! Did you ever get it resolved? Did you have to pay penalties?

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Yara Elias

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This is absolutely concerning and you should take immediate action! What your tax preparer did is completely against professional standards and potentially illegal. Legitimate tax professionals should NEVER ask for your personal account credentials. Here's what you need to do right away: 1. Change your TaxAct password immediately 2. Enable two-factor authentication if available 3. Check your account history to see if any unauthorized changes were made 4. Review what was actually filed under your name by requesting a tax transcript from the IRS 5. Consider reporting this preparer to the IRS - they have a complaint process for unprofessional preparers The fact that they used your personal account instead of professional software means the return shows you as the preparer rather than them, which is incorrect and could cause issues if there are problems with the filing. Professional preparers are required to use software that includes their PTIN and should have their own e-filing capabilities. I'd strongly recommend finding a different tax preparer next year - look for someone who is a CPA, Enrolled Agent, or at minimum has a valid PTIN that they can show you. Don't let anyone pressure you into giving out your login credentials ever again!

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Maria, I totally get your stress about this - I was in almost the exact same boat last year when I needed to withdraw $6,000 from my Roth for an emergency medical bill. The good news is that withdrawing contributions really is as straightforward as everyone says, even though the paperwork can feel intimidating. One thing that really helped me was calling my brokerage (Schwab) before making the withdrawal to walk through the process. They explained that while the 1099-R would show the full withdrawal amount, I'd use Form 8606 to clarify it was contributions only. The rep also suggested I keep a simple record of my annual contributions, which made tax filing much easier. When I filed with TurboTax, it asked clear questions about my total Roth contributions versus the withdrawal amount, and it automatically filled out Form 8606 for me. The whole thing was much less scary than I'd built it up to be in my head. For peace of mind, I'd recommend keeping copies of your tax returns from the years you made contributions - they show your contribution amounts on line 32. That way you have backup documentation if you ever need it. The fact that you're only withdrawing $7,500 from $18,000 in contributions gives you a nice cushion too. Hang in there - dealing with unexpected home repairs is stressful enough without worrying about tax complications. You're handling this the smart way by only touching contributions and leaving your earnings to keep growing!

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Chloe Davis

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Thanks for sharing your experience, Natasha! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who went through almost the exact same situation. I'm curious - when you called Schwab beforehand, did they give you any specific guidance on how to request the withdrawal to make sure it was properly categorized? I'm with Vanguard and wondering if I should call them first too before initiating the withdrawal online. Also, you mentioned keeping copies of tax returns showing contributions on line 32 - is that the line where Roth IRA contributions appear on Form 1040? I want to make sure I'm looking at the right documentation when I gather my records. The medical emergency aspect really hits home too - it's amazing how quickly unexpected expenses can derail our financial plans, but at least Roth IRAs give us this flexibility when we truly need it.

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Ravi Patel

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Maria, I really feel for you dealing with unexpected home repairs - those always seem to hit at the worst times! But you're absolutely doing the right thing by only withdrawing contributions from your Roth IRA. One thing I want to emphasize that might give you extra peace of mind: since you've contributed $18,000 over 3 years and only need $7,500, you have a really comfortable buffer. Even if there were any confusion about what constitutes contributions versus earnings (which there shouldn't be), you're well within the safe zone. A practical tip from my own experience: when you make the withdrawal, ask your brokerage for email confirmation that includes the withdrawal details. I keep these confirmations in a dedicated "Tax Documents" folder on my computer alongside my annual tax returns. It makes everything so much easier to find when tax season rolls around. Also, don't stress too much about "proving" these are contributions if audited. Your tax returns from the past 3 years showing your Roth contributions, combined with your brokerage statements, create a clear paper trail. The IRS audit rate for individual returns is quite low, and Roth contribution withdrawals are pretty straightforward when properly documented. You mentioned using TurboTax - they've really improved their handling of Form 8606 over the years. It should walk you through the process with plain-English questions rather than confusing tax jargon. You've got this!

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This is such helpful advice, Ravi! As someone new to this community, I really appreciate how supportive everyone has been with Maria's question. I'm actually in a similar situation where I might need to access some of my Roth contributions for an emergency fund gap, and reading through all these responses has been incredibly educational. Your point about having email confirmation from the brokerage is really smart - I hadn't thought about keeping digital copies organized like that. I've been pretty disorganized with my financial documents, but this seems like a good reason to finally set up a proper filing system. One follow-up question for the group: for someone like me who's relatively new to Roth IRAs (only been contributing for about 18 months), would you recommend waiting until I have a longer contribution history before considering any withdrawals, or does the length of time contributing not really matter as long as you're only withdrawing principal?

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Luca Greco

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is to keep detailed records of everything throughout this process. Save copies of the excess contribution removal form, any correspondence with your HSA provider, and the 1099-SA when you receive it. I'd also recommend taking screenshots of your HSA account showing the account balance before and after the removal, just in case there are any discrepancies later. My HSA provider initially calculated the earnings incorrectly and I had to provide documentation to get it fixed. Also, when you call your HSA provider to submit the form, get the name of the person you speak with and ask for a confirmation number or reference number for your request. This makes it much easier to follow up if there are delays. The IRS can be very particular about HSA documentation, so having a complete paper trail will save you headaches if you ever get audited or if there are questions about how the removal was handled.

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This is excellent advice about documentation! I learned this the hard way when I had an HSA issue a few years ago. The IRS loves their paper trails, especially with HSAs since they're so heavily regulated. I'd also add - if your HSA provider has an online portal, download and save PDFs of all your account statements from before and after the removal. Some providers only keep online records for a limited time, and you might need those statements years later if there are any questions. The confirmation number tip is gold - I've had to reference mine multiple times when following up on processing delays.

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Eli Butler

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Just to add one more perspective on timing - I'm a tax preparer and see this HSA overcontribution issue fairly often. The April 15th deadline for excess contribution removal is firm, but there's one thing that might help if you're really pressed for time. Some HSA providers will accept the removal request by phone and then send the paperwork afterward for your records. This can save a few days if you're cutting it close to the deadline. Just make sure to get that confirmation number and follow up to ensure they received your phone request. Also, regarding the extension - filing Form 4868 for an automatic extension is super straightforward and can be done online through the IRS website in just a few minutes. You don't need to provide a reason. This gives you until October 15th to file your actual return while still meeting the April 15th deadline for the HSA removal. One last tip: if your HSA is with a major provider like Fidelity, HSA Bank, or HealthEquity, they typically have dedicated HSA customer service lines with reps who are specifically trained on these excess contribution situations. Much more helpful than general customer service.

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CosmicCadet

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Thanks @Eli Butler for the professional insight! The phone request option is really good to know - I wasn t'aware that some providers would accept these requests over the phone. That could be a lifesaver for people who are cutting it close to the deadline. Quick question - when someone calls in the removal request, do they typically need to have specific information ready beyond just the excess amount? Like account numbers, contribution dates, etc.? I want to make sure I m'prepared if I need to go that route. Also really appreciate the tip about the dedicated HSA service lines. My provider is HSA Bank and their general customer service has been pretty unhelpful so far, but I ll'try calling their HSA-specific line instead.

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NebulaKnight

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Nolan. Going through a loved one's belongings is emotionally exhausting, and having to worry about tax documentation on top of grief makes everything feel more overwhelming. Your great aunt is absolutely looking out for you - those donation deductions can really add up, especially with estate cleanouts. From what everyone has shared here, you're already doing everything right by collecting those receipts as you go. For the descriptions, you definitely don't need to list every single item. The IRS accepts reasonable categories like "Women's clothing - 12 items including sweaters, blouses, pants, good condition" or "Household items - kitchen utensils, small appliances, linens, fair condition." Just be honest about quantities and condition. The photo tip that keeps coming up is genuinely smart - even a quick phone snapshot before loading your car would save so much second-guessing later when filling out receipts. Before you spend too much energy on detailed documentation though, I'd suggest calculating whether itemizing will actually benefit you. With the standard deduction at $14,600 for single filers in 2025, you'll need substantial total deductions to make it worthwhile. Estate donations can definitely add up, but it's worth checking first. Take this one step at a time and give yourself permission to take breaks when you need them. You're handling an incredibly difficult situation with such care and thoughtfulness. The practical stuff can wait when you need space to process everything.

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I'm so sorry for your loss as well, Nolan. This thread has been incredibly helpful to read through as someone who's facing a similar situation with my own family estate. The advice about taking photos before donations really seems to be the golden tip here - I wish I'd started doing this from the beginning! It's such a simple solution to avoid the stress of trying to remember what was in each load later. Your point about checking the standard deduction threshold first is crucial. I made the mistake of spending hours documenting everything before realizing I was nowhere near the itemizing threshold. Now I'm being more strategic about which donations are worth the detailed paperwork. The community here has been so supportive and practical in their advice. It's reassuring to know there are people who understand how challenging it is to balance grief with all these practical decisions. Take care of yourself during this difficult time.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Nolan. Losing a grandmother and then having to sort through her belongings is incredibly difficult - you're dealing with both grief and overwhelming practical decisions at the same time. Your great aunt is absolutely right to push for proper documentation. Those donation receipts can lead to significant tax savings, especially when you're clearing out an entire household. The good news is that based on everyone's advice here, you don't need to make this harder than it has to be. For the IRS, general categories with rough counts are perfectly acceptable. Try something like "Women's clothing - 14 items including blouses, sweaters, dresses, good condition" or "Kitchen items - cookware, utensils, small appliances, fair to good condition." This gives enough detail to satisfy requirements without driving you crazy trying to count every individual piece. The photo tip that everyone keeps mentioning is genuinely brilliant - just take a quick snapshot with your phone before loading donations into your car. It'll save you from trying to remember what was in each load when you're filling out receipts later. One important thing to check first: make sure your total itemized deductions will exceed the standard deduction ($14,600 for single filers in 2025). With estate cleanouts the amounts often do add up substantially, but it's worth doing a rough calculation before you spend too much time on detailed documentation. Take your time with this process and be gentle with yourself. The paperwork will be there when you're ready to tackle it, and processing grief while handling all these practical matters is exhausting work. You're already showing so much care in how you're approaching everything.

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I went through this exact same situation last year! The key thing to understand about Form 8863 Line 19 is that it's essentially a checkbox certification where you confirm you haven't exceeded the 4-year lifetime limit for AOTC. Since you mentioned you're 24 and in post-bacc studies, the critical question is how many years you've already claimed AOTC during undergrad. If it's 3 or fewer years, you can still claim AOTC for this year, which would typically give you a better credit than Lifetime Learning. Here's what helped me figure it out: I pulled my tax transcripts from the IRS website (irs.gov - search "Get Transcript") to see exactly how many years I'd claimed AOTC. Turns out I'd only used it twice, so I was eligible for AOTC even as a post-bacc student. For Line 19 specifically, if you've claimed AOTC for 3 or fewer prior years, you'd check "No" to the question about claiming it for more than 4 years. This confirms you're still within the lifetime limit and can claim it this year. The income limits and qualified expenses requirements still apply, but TurboTax should help you navigate those once you get past the Line 19 confusion!

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Jamal Brown

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This is really helpful, thank you! I didn't know you could get tax transcripts online so easily. I'm definitely going to check that to see exactly how many years I've used AOTC. The checkbox explanation for Line 19 makes so much more sense now - I was overthinking it. If I've only used it for 2-3 years during undergrad, it sounds like I should still be able to claim the better credit this year even though I'm in post-bacc. Really appreciate the step-by-step breakdown!

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I just wanted to share my experience since I went through this exact same confusion with Form 8863 Line 19 last year! The wording on that line is definitely confusing - it's asking if you've claimed AOTC for "more than 4 tax years." Since you mentioned you're 24 and in post-bacc studies, the key is figuring out how many years you used AOTC during undergrad. What really helped me was looking up my education credit history. You can check your past tax returns or get your tax transcripts from the IRS website (it's free and pretty quick if you create an online account). Look for Form 8863 on your prior year returns to see exactly how many times you've claimed AOTC. If you've only used it for 3 or fewer years, you'd check "No" on Line 19 (meaning "No, I have NOT claimed it for more than 4 years"), which keeps you eligible for AOTC this year. And since AOTC is usually worth more than Lifetime Learning Credit (up to $2,500 vs $2,000), it's definitely worth figuring out if you're still eligible. The post-bacc status doesn't automatically disqualify you from AOTC - it's really about whether you've hit that 4-year lifetime limit and whether your program qualifies. Hope this helps!

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This is exactly the kind of detailed explanation I was looking for! Thank you so much for breaking down the Line 19 wording - "more than 4 tax years" was throwing me off because I kept second-guessing myself about whether 4 years meant exactly 4 or more than 4. I'm definitely going to pull my tax transcripts to see exactly how many years I've claimed AOTC. I think it's only been 2 years during my undergrad because I took a gap year and didn't have qualifying expenses one of those years. If that's the case, it sounds like I should be able to get the full AOTC benefit even as a post-bacc student. The potential difference between $2,500 and $2,000 is definitely worth taking the time to figure this out properly. Really appreciate everyone's help on this thread!

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