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Concerned my tax accountant might be lying about filing extension & penalty abatement request

I'm in a really strange situation and could use some advice. For context, I've been running my small business for about a decade now. Last year after filing my 2022 taxes, I got hit with a massive penalty bill for late payment. I was totally confused since my accountant told me he had filed in April and requested an extension. According to him, the penalty was because I hadn't been paying quarterly taxes for my business, but he said he would file an abatement request to get it removed. Fast forward six months, and I'm still getting increasingly threatening notices from both the IRS and state tax authority about seizing my property if I don't pay up. My accountant kept reassuring me that the abatement was "just taking time to process" and even sent me a copy of the abatement request dated from when he claimed to have submitted it. Today I finally called the IRS directly (should've done this way sooner). They told me: 1) the penalty is for late filing, not quarterly taxes, 2) no extension was EVER filed, and 3) my taxes weren't actually filed until June 6th, not April like my accountant claimed. The biggest bombshell? They have zero record of any abatement request. There have been other red flags too. My accountant left H&R Block two years ago to go independent, and things have been chaotic since. This past April, he completely ghosted me while I was waiting for my return to be filed. Only after sending increasingly panicked emails did he resurface on April 15th and supposedly file on time. He's insisting he did submit both the extension and abatement request, blaming the IRS for being disorganized. He claims he can't prove he filed the abatement (though he sent me a letter dated November), but says he can prove the extension was filed (though hasn't shown me anything). The penalties are over $13,000 combined between state and federal taxes. Is it actually possible the IRS missed both an extension request AND an abatement request? What should I do here? Am I being lied to? Really appreciate any guidance. This whole situation has me extremely stressed out.

Ava Williams

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There's a simple way to check if an extension was actually filed. Call the IRS at the Practitioner Priority Line (1-866-860-4259) and ask for a "tax account transcript" for the tax year in question. The transcript will show exactly when your return was received and if an extension was filed. This is official IRS data that can't be manipulated by your accountant. You can also request it online through the IRS website if you create an account. The transcript will show every transaction with date stamps. If your accountant really filed an extension, it will appear with code "460" on your account transcript.

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This is true but I'd add that the IRS account transcript uses transaction codes that can be confusing. Code 460 is for extensions, and Code 971 would show up if an abatement request was received. OP should also look for Code 166 which indicates penalties were assessed for late filing. The beauty of the transcript is it's chronological and each entry has an official date stamp that can't be falsified.

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Ava Martinez

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I'm really sorry you're going through this - it's such a violation of trust when a professional you rely on isn't honest with you. Based on everything you've described, I agree with the other commenters that your accountant appears to be lying. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet: you should document everything immediately while it's still fresh. Write down all the dates your accountant told you things were filed, save every email and text message, and keep copies of any documents he provided (even the suspicious ones). This documentation will be crucial if you decide to pursue malpractice claims or file complaints with regulatory bodies. Also, since you mentioned this is affecting both federal and state taxes, make sure you're addressing both separately. State tax authorities often have their own penalty abatement programs, and the process might be different from the federal IRS abatement. The $13,000 in penalties is substantial enough that you might want to consult with a tax attorney who specializes in penalty abatement cases. Many offer free consultations and can quickly assess whether you have grounds for both penalty relief and potential recovery from your accountant's errors or omissions insurance. Don't let this drag on any longer - every day those collection notices get more serious, and your options may become more limited.

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This is excellent advice about documenting everything. I'd also suggest taking screenshots of any online portals or software your accountant may have shown you, even if they seemed legitimate at the time. Sometimes dishonest preparers will create fake "submission confirmations" or modify legitimate software interfaces to make it look like filings went through when they didn't. Another red flag I noticed from your original post - the fact that your accountant "completely ghosted" you during tax season and only resurfaced on April 15th is extremely unprofessional. Legitimate tax professionals don't disappear during their busiest time of year, especially when clients are depending on them for timely filings. Given the serious financial impact here, I'd definitely recommend consulting with a tax attorney as Ava suggested. Many states also have victim compensation funds for clients harmed by professional misconduct, and you may be able to recover some of your penalty costs if you can prove negligence or fraud.

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I work in payroll administration and can confirm that Fed MWT EE is indeed Federal Withholding Tax - Employee portion. This is your federal income tax being withheld based on your W-4 selections. One thing I'd add that others haven't mentioned - if you recently changed your filing status (got married, divorced, had kids, etc.) or your income changed significantly, you might want to review your W-4. A lot of people set it once when they're hired and never look at it again, which can lead to owing money or getting huge refunds. Also, don't feel bad about your HR being unhelpful - unfortunately that's pretty common. Most HR departments handle benefits and policies but aren't trained on the nitty-gritty tax details. The payroll department (if separate) usually knows more about deduction specifics, but even they sometimes just follow whatever the payroll software spits out without fully understanding it.

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Thank you so much for the insider perspective! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who actually works in payroll. I think you're absolutely right about the W-4 thing - I set mine up when I got hired 3 years ago and haven't touched it since. My situation has definitely changed (got married last year) so I should probably update it. It's also good to know that even HR departments aren't expected to be tax experts. I was feeling pretty frustrated with mine but I guess it makes sense that they'd focus more on benefits and company policies rather than the technical tax stuff. Do you happen to know if there's a good rule of thumb for how often people should review their W-4, or is it really just when major life changes happen?

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Just wanted to chime in as someone who was in your exact situation a few months ago! The whole paycheck deduction alphabet soup is so confusing when you're trying to figure out where your money is going. Fed MWT EE is definitely your federal income tax withholding (the "MWT" stands for "withholding tax" and "EE" means employee portion). What helped me understand my paystub better was actually requesting a detailed breakdown from payroll - even though your HR wasn't helpful, sometimes the actual payroll processor (like ADP or Paychex) can provide a legend that explains all their specific abbreviations. Also, since you mentioned being confused about the Medicare/FICA thing - I had the same question! Turns out FICA is like an umbrella term for Social Security AND Medicare taxes combined. Some paystubs show them separately (like your "FED MED EE" for just the Medicare part) while others lump them together under "FICA." You're definitely not paying twice - it's just different ways of displaying the breakdown. One thing that really helped me was keeping track of these deductions for a few pay periods to see the patterns. Once you understand what each abbreviation means, it becomes way easier to spot if something looks off or if your withholdings need adjusting.

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NebulaKnight

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This is such great advice! I never thought about requesting a detailed breakdown from the actual payroll processor. I've been assuming that what shows up on my paystub is all the information I can get, but you're right that companies like ADP probably have more detailed explanations available. The idea of tracking deductions over several pay periods is really smart too - I bet that would help me spot any inconsistencies or changes that I might not notice otherwise. Plus it would probably make me feel more in control of my finances instead of just getting my paycheck and hoping everything looks right. Thanks for sharing your experience with the FICA/Medicare confusion - it's nice to know I'm not the only one who found that distinction confusing! The umbrella term explanation makes perfect sense now.

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Just to add another perspective - I've been running a mobile coffee cart for 3 years and learned this lesson the hard way. We were doing exactly what your owner is doing (using one "safe" higher rate) until we got audited last year. The auditor explained that by consistently overcharging in certain jurisdictions, we were creating a liability because we were collecting more tax than we were remitting to those specific locations. The solution that worked for us was switching to a POS system with automatic location-based tax rates, but we also had to go back and correct our previous filings. It was a pain, but much better than facing penalties. I'd strongly recommend having a conversation with your owner about getting compliant sooner rather than later - mobile food businesses are actually more likely to be audited because we operate across multiple jurisdictions. Also, don't forget about the permit side of things. Most cities require food trucks to have local permits even for one-day events, and those permits often come with specific tax reporting requirements.

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This is really helpful insight about the audit experience! I'm curious - when you had to go back and correct previous filings, did you have to pay penalties or interest on the differences? And how far back did the audit cover? I'm trying to understand what we might be facing if we don't get this sorted out soon. Also, do you know if there are any red flags that trigger audits for mobile businesses specifically?

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Mei Wong

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Great question! In our case, we did have to pay some interest on the underpayments to certain jurisdictions, but the penalties were waived because we voluntarily corrected the filings before they caught the discrepancies. The audit covered 3 years back, which is pretty standard. As for red flags - the auditor mentioned that mobile businesses often get flagged when there are inconsistencies in location-based reporting, or when sales volumes don't match up with permit applications in different cities. Also, if you're filing in multiple jurisdictions but your tax rates don't reflect the local rates, that can trigger scrutiny. Customer complaints about incorrect tax charges can also lead to investigations. My advice would be to get ahead of this now - most tax authorities are more lenient if you proactively correct issues rather than waiting for them to find problems during an audit.

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Oliver Brown

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This is such a timely discussion! I'm actually dealing with a similar situation with our mobile BBQ business. We operate in 4 different counties and I've been manually tracking which tax rate to use for each location, but it's been a nightmare to manage during busy festival seasons. One thing I learned from our accountant is that you should also keep detailed records of not just WHERE you made each sale, but WHEN. Some jurisdictions have different tax rates that change throughout the year (like temporary local taxes for infrastructure projects), so even the same location might have different rates depending on the date. Also, for anyone considering the GPS-based POS solutions mentioned above - make sure your system can handle situations where you're right on a city boundary. We had issues where our GPS would ping-pong between two tax rates when parked near city limits, which created some confusing receipts for customers until we figured out how to set a manual override. @Sophie Footman - I'd definitely encourage you to push back more firmly with the owner about getting compliant. The "better safe than sorry" approach of using a higher rate everywhere might seem safer, but as others have mentioned, it can actually create more problems in the long run than just doing it correctly from the start.

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@Oliver Brown That s'a really good point about the GPS ping-ponging issue! I hadn t'thought about that potential problem. For someone just starting to tackle this tax compliance issue, do you have any recommendations for POS systems that handle the boundary situations better? Also, regarding the time-based tax rate changes you mentioned - how do you stay on top of those updates? Is there a reliable way to get notified when local tax rates change, or do you just have to manually check each jurisdiction periodically? With 4 counties, that sounds like it could be a lot to track! @Sophie Footman - I m in'a similar boat as you with being relatively new to handling the books for a mobile business. This whole thread has been eye-opening about how complex the tax situation can get!

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I'm dealing with this exact situation right now and really appreciate all the detailed responses here! Based on what everyone's shared, I'm leaning toward reaching out to my fund managers first before making a decision. One additional consideration I haven't seen mentioned - if you're expecting a large refund from other sources (like overwithholding from your W-2), you might want to factor in the opportunity cost of that money sitting with the IRS for an extra few months. I ran the numbers on my situation, and even with a conservative investment return, the potential earnings on my refund over 3-4 months would more than cover any amendment fees if something unexpected shows up on the K-1s. That said, the peace of mind from doing it right the first time is probably worth more than a few hundred dollars in potential returns. Plus, some of the horror stories about amendment complications and audit risks that people have shared are making me think twice about rushing it. I'm going to send emails to all my fund managers this week using the template approach that Isabella suggested - asking specifically about income, losses, credits, and foreign investments. If they can confirm zeros across the board, I'll file. If not, I'll wait or file an extension. Thanks everyone for the incredibly helpful insights! This community is amazing for getting real-world perspectives on these tricky tax situations.

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Steven Adams

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That's a really thoughtful approach to weigh the opportunity cost of the refund delay! I hadn't considered running the numbers like that, but you're absolutely right that a few months of investment returns could offset amendment costs in some cases. Your plan to email the fund managers sounds solid - I'd suggest keeping the emails brief and direct since some of these smaller funds get swamped during tax season. Also, don't be surprised if some take a week or two to respond, especially the angel/seed stage funds that might not have dedicated investor relations staff. One small tip from my experience: if you do end up filing early based on their confirmations, save those email responses! I keep a "tax communications" folder each year with any written confirmations from fund managers. It's come in handy a couple times when questions came up later, and it shows you did due diligence if there are ever any issues. Good luck with the outreach - hopefully you'll get quick responses and can file with confidence!

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FireflyDreams

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As someone who's been through this rodeo with multiple VC investments, I'll add my two cents: definitely reach out to your fund managers, but also prepare for radio silence from some of them. The smaller, earlier-stage funds especially can be pretty unresponsive during tax season since they're usually swamped. Here's what I've learned works best: send a polite but specific email with a clear subject line like "2024 K-1 Tax Information Request - [Your Name]" and give them about a week to respond. If you don't hear back, try calling their main number and asking to speak with whoever handles investor relations or fund administration. The bigger, more established VC funds are usually pretty good about responding to these requests since they deal with them constantly. It's the smaller angel groups and newer funds that can be hit or miss. One thing that's saved me multiple times - if a fund manager tells you "there should be nothing to report" but can't give you a definitive answer, ask them specifically about any international investments in the portfolio. I got burned one year by a fund that had "minimal activity" but failed to mention they had a small position in a Cayman Islands entity that triggered foreign reporting requirements. Bottom line: a few strategic emails now can save you months of headaches later. And honestly, most years these early-stage investments really don't have much to report anyway - it's just that one exception that'll get you if you're not careful!

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This is such a common confusion! You're definitely not responsible for paying her taxes - that's entirely her obligation as the service provider. However, you absolutely need proper documentation to claim the Child Care Tax Credit. Here's what you need to do immediately: Start keeping detailed records of every payment (date, amount, method). Since you've been paying cash, ask your provider for a year-end summary showing total payments made, along with her Tax ID number (either SSN or EIN). You'll need this information to complete Form 2441 when filing your taxes. The fact that you're paying $225 weekly means you're spending about $11,700 annually on childcare, which could qualify you for a significant tax credit! Don't let poor documentation cost you hundreds or thousands in legitimate tax savings. If she's reluctant to provide her Tax ID or proper receipts, that's a red flag. Legitimate childcare providers understand they need to provide this documentation to parents. You might want to start looking for alternative arrangements if she continues to be uncooperative about basic tax requirements.

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Grace Thomas

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This is really helpful! I'm in a similar situation and had no idea about Form 2441. Quick question - if I've been paying cash all year without keeping receipts, is it too late to start documenting now? Should I ask my provider for a summary of what I've paid so far this year, or just start fresh with better record-keeping going forward? Also, do you know if there's a minimum amount you need to spend to qualify for the Child Care Tax Credit? I'm only paying about $150/week so I want to make sure it's worth the hassle of getting all this documentation.

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Kaitlyn Otto

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It's definitely not too late to start documenting now! I'd recommend doing both - ask your provider for a summary of payments made so far this year, and start keeping detailed records going forward. Even if she can't provide exact amounts from earlier in the year, having partial documentation is better than none. Regarding the minimum amount - there's no specific minimum to qualify for the Child Care Tax Credit, but at $150/week ($7,800 annually), you're definitely spending enough to make it worthwhile. The credit can be up to 35% of your expenses depending on your income, so you could potentially get back $2,730 or more. That's definitely worth the effort of getting proper documentation! The key thing is making sure your provider gives you her Tax ID number. Without that, you can't claim the credit regardless of how much you spend. Start the conversation with her soon so you have time to find alternative arrangements if she's not cooperative.

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Alice Coleman

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now! My in-home provider has been great with care but terrible with documentation. What I've learned is that you're absolutely not responsible for her taxes - that's entirely her business obligation as a service provider. However, you MUST get proper documentation to claim the Child Care Tax Credit, and at $225/week, you're looking at almost $12,000 annually that could qualify for a significant credit. Here's what I did to solve this: 1. I started keeping my own detailed payment log immediately (date, amount, payment method) 2. I had a direct conversation with my provider explaining that I legally need her Tax ID number and year-end payment summary for my taxes 3. I switched from cash to Venmo so there's an automatic record of every payment If she pushes back on providing her Tax ID, that's a major red flag that she may not be reporting her income properly. A legitimate childcare business understands these are standard requirements. You might need to start looking for alternative arrangements if she won't cooperate, because without that documentation, you'll lose out on potentially thousands in tax credits you're entitled to claim. Don't let poor record-keeping cost you money you've already earned through legitimate childcare expenses!

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