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Emma Morales

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Just a heads up - if you're receiving payments through Venmo, be aware that starting with tax year 2022, payment apps like Venmo, PayPal, and Cash App are required to report transactions to the IRS if you receive more than $600 in a year for goods and services. They'll send you a 1099-K form. Even if your friends aren't marking the payments as "goods and services" (many people just mark them as personal payments), it's still technically reportable income. The risk of getting caught for not reporting it is much higher now with these new reporting requirements.

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Ruby Knight

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Wait, does this apply even if my roommates are just marking it as a personal payment or using the "friends and family" option? They don't select the "goods and services" category when they send the rent.

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Emma Morales

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The 1099-K reporting requirements are specifically for payments marked as "goods and services," so if your roommates are marking payments as personal/friends and family, Venmo won't be issuing a 1099-K for those specific transactions. However, this doesn't change the fact that rental income is still legally required to be reported on your tax return regardless of how it's paid or whether you receive a 1099. The IRS rules about income reporting don't depend on whether you receive a form or not - all income is technically reportable. The "friends and family" option just means Venmo itself isn't reporting those specific transactions.

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Don't forget you can also deduct things like cleaning supplies for the rental areas, any repairs specific to the rented rooms, and even a portion of your internet bill if your roommates use it. And if you did any upgrades to the property specifically because of the rental activity, those might be deductible too.

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Lucas Parker

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Is there a limit to how much you can deduct though? Like, can you deduct so much that you show a loss on the rental even though you're actually making money?

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Landon Morgan

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Yes, there are limits to be aware of. The rental loss rules can be tricky for owner-occupied properties. If you're actively participating in the rental activity (which you are as the landlord living there), you can generally deduct up to $25,000 in rental losses against your other income, but this phases out if your adjusted gross income exceeds $100,000. However, with your regular job income of $70k plus $27k in rental income, you're likely going to show a profit anyway once you factor in all the legitimate deductions. The key is making sure your deductions are reasonable and well-documented. You can't just arbitrarily inflate expenses to create a loss - everything needs to be legitimate and properly allocated between personal and rental use.

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Oscar Murphy

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Double check if your 1099-R has code J or T in Box 7. Those codes indicate a distribution for a first-time home purchase. If not, that might be part of the problem - the IRS doesn't know the purpose of your withdrawal.

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Nora Bennett

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This! My 1099-R had the wrong distribution code and it caused a huge mess. Had to get my brokerage to issue a corrected 1099-R with the right code. Worth checking.

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Wesley Hallow

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I went through almost exactly the same situation last year! The key thing to understand is that the IRS penalty notice is likely wrong because they're missing the proper documentation showing what portion of your withdrawal was contributions vs. earnings. Here's what I learned from my experience: 1. You absolutely CAN withdraw Roth IRA contributions tax and penalty-free at any time - you were right about that 2. The problem is proving to the IRS which portion was contributions vs. earnings 3. Form 8606 is crucial - it tracks your basis (contributions) in the Roth IRA Since you've been contributing since 2008 and you're 42, your account has definitely been open for more than 5 years, which is great. This means even the earnings portion that qualifies under the first-time homebuyer exception should be completely tax-free. You'll need to: - File Form 8606 for 2023 showing your contribution history - File an amended return (1040-X) to properly report the distribution - Include documentation proving your total contributions over the years The scary notice from the IRS is likely just their automated system assuming the worst case scenario. Once you provide the proper documentation, most or all of that tax bill should disappear. Don't panic - this is fixable!

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Ellie Lopez

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Do any of the standard tax software packages handle oil and gas interests properly? I've been using TurboTax Self-Employed and it seems completely clueless about depletion allowances and proper treatment of different types of oil and gas income.

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Chad Winthrope

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No mainstream tax software handles oil and gas properly in my experience. I switched to using a CPA who specializes in oil and gas after TurboTax completely messed up my depletion calculations two years ago. Cost me more, but saved thousands in proper deductions.

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Oliver Fischer

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Great discussion everyone. As someone who's dealt with this exact scenario, I'd add that the choice between S Corp vs LLC/Partnership for oil and gas royalties often comes down to your specific circumstances and long-term plans. One angle I haven't seen mentioned is the impact on estate planning. LLCs/partnerships generally offer more flexibility for gifting interests to family members and implementing valuation discounts, which can be significant for substantial mineral portfolios. S Corps have stricter ownership transfer rules that can complicate succession planning. Also worth considering: if you're dealing with multiple states, partnerships/LLCs typically have simpler multi-state filing requirements. Some states impose franchise taxes or minimum fees on S Corps that don't apply to LLCs, which can add up quickly when you have interests across several producing regions. The competing preparer might be focused on a specific client situation where S Corp benefits outweigh these considerations, but for most oil and gas royalty scenarios, the LLC/partnership structure remains the more flexible choice in my experience.

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Nia Jackson

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I believe I might have insight into this situation. My return followed this exact pattern in early March. The WMR changed from code 152 to the FAQ page on a Tuesday. I cautiously monitored my transcript daily. By Friday morning, my transcript updated with cycle code 20241105 and code 846 with a direct deposit date. The money appeared in my account the following Wednesday, exactly as indicated. I was surprised by how the WMR tool provided so little information during this critical transition period.

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Haley Bennett

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I experienced this exact same transition last filing season and can confirm it's typically a positive indicator. The shift from Tax Topic 152 to the FAQ display usually occurs when your return moves from the initial processing queue into the final approval stage. What I found helpful was understanding that the IRS has multiple internal systems that don't always sync in real-time. The WMR tool is essentially a simplified front-end that sometimes displays generic messages when the backend systems are actively processing your return. In my case, the transcript remained static for about 6 days after this change, then suddenly updated with both a cycle code and deposit date on the same day. The key is that transcript activity often happens in batches - usually overnight processing runs that occur Tuesday through Friday. I'd recommend checking your transcript between 6-8 AM daily, as that's typically when overnight updates appear. Also, this transition usually means you're within 7-14 days of receiving your refund, assuming no additional review flags pop up.

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Ava Kim

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My brother didn't file for 3 years cuz he was "sure he didn't owe" and the IRS eventually caught up with him. They reconstructed what his income should have been based on third-party reporting and sent him a bill with penalties that was wayyyyyy more than if he'd just filed normally. Plus they almost went after him for tax evasion which is no joke. Just file your taxes people!!!

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Ethan Anderson

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Do u have to file even if ur income is super low? Like I only made like $3k last year from my summer job. Nobody has ever told me I need to file with income that low.

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Ethan Brown

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For $3k from a summer job, you're probably not required to file since that's well below the $13,850 filing threshold for single filers that was mentioned earlier. However, you might actually want to file anyway because you probably had taxes withheld from your paychecks that you could get back as a refund! Check your W-2 - if there's anything in the "Federal income tax withheld" box, filing a return would get that money back to you. Plus if you're a student, there might be education credits you could claim. So even though you're not required to file, it could put money in your pocket.

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Gabriel Graham

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Just to add to what everyone else has said - even if you're 100% certain you don't owe taxes, there are actually several good reasons to file anyway: 1. **You might be leaving money on the table** - Like others mentioned, you could qualify for refundable credits like the Earned Income Tax Credit or American Opportunity Tax Credit that actually give you money even if you didn't pay any taxes. 2. **Proof of income** - Having a filed tax return makes it way easier to apply for loans, apartments, financial aid, etc. Landlords and lenders often want to see your tax returns as proof of income. 3. **Social Security credits** - If you earned income but don't file, you might not get proper credit toward your Social Security benefits later in life. 4. **Peace of mind** - Filing eliminates any worry about whether the IRS will come knocking later. It's one less thing to stress about. The whole process is honestly not as bad as people make it out to be, especially if your situation is simple. And if you're owed a refund, you're basically giving the government a free loan by not filing. Why let them keep your money?

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AstroExplorer

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This is all really eye-opening stuff! I'm in a similar boat as the original poster - been putting off filing because I was pretty sure I didn't owe anything. But reading through all these responses, it sounds like there's really no downside to filing and potentially a lot of upside. The Social Security credits thing especially got my attention. I'm 24 and have been working part-time jobs since I was 18, but I've only filed taxes maybe twice. Had no idea I could be missing out on credits that would affect my benefits 40+ years from now. That's pretty scary to think about. @AnthonyYoung, when you mention the 3-year deadline for claiming refunds, does that clock start from the original due date of the return, or from when you actually file? Like if I was supposed to file in April 2022 but I file now in 2025, do I still have until April 2025 to get any refund, or did that window already close? Also, for anyone who's used those tools that were mentioned earlier (taxr.ai), do they help you figure out what years you should go back and file for? I'm worried I might have left money on the table for multiple years now.

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Isaac Wright

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This thread has been super eye-opening! I'm definitely one of those people who's been putting off filing because I assumed I didn't owe anything. But hearing about the Social Security credits and potential refunds I might be missing out on has convinced me to stop procrastinating. Quick follow-up question though - is there a difference between federal and state filing requirements? Like, could I be required to file state taxes even if I don't meet the federal threshold? I live in California and work part-time while in school, so my income is pretty low but I want to make sure I'm not missing anything on the state level either. Also, @92c576448156 thanks for clarifying the penalty situation - that definitely makes me feel better about filing late since I'm pretty confident I don't actually owe anything!

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