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Has anyone had the IRS apply their overpayment to a state tax debt? I heard they can do that but not sure if its automatic or if you have to request it?
The IRS doesn't automatically apply federal tax overpayments to state tax debts. Federal and state tax systems are separate. However, if you owe other federal debts (including federal student loans), the Treasury Offset Program might intercept your federal refund to pay those debts.
I went through something very similar last year with back taxes from 2021. The IRS will definitely refund any overpayment automatically - no special forms needed. What helped me was creating an online account at irs.gov so I could track the status of my payment and see exactly how they calculated the penalties and interest. One thing to keep in mind: if you made the payment recently, it can take up to 6-8 weeks for them to fully process everything and issue the refund. They have to apply your payment, calculate the exact amount owed as of the payment date, and then process the overpayment. You should receive a notice explaining their calculations before the refund arrives. Also, double-check that you don't have any other outstanding federal debts (like student loans) because they might offset your refund against those before sending you the money. Good luck!
Thanks for sharing your experience! That's really helpful to know about the 6-8 week timeframe. I'm definitely going to set up that online account - I didn't realize you could track payment status that way. Quick question: when you say they calculate penalties and interest "as of the payment date," does that mean if I paid a bit early compared to when they actually process it, I might get even more back since the interest would be less?
Hey Ryder! I totally get the panic - I was in a similar situation a few years ago and it felt overwhelming. But honestly, you're taking the right step by addressing this now rather than continuing to put it off. A few things that might help ease your mind: First, if you've been working regular jobs, your employers were likely withholding taxes from your paychecks, which means you probably won't owe as much as you think (and might even be due refunds for some years). Second, the IRS has programs specifically for people in your situation - the First Time Penalty Abatement can waive many late fees if you qualify. For your immediate apartment application problem, you might be able to get wage transcripts from the IRS that show your income history even without filed returns. This could at least help with the rental application while you work on getting caught up. I'd recommend starting by gathering whatever documents you can find (W-2s, 1099s, bank statements) and then deciding whether to tackle this yourself or get help. The peace of mind of having it resolved is honestly worth whatever effort or cost it takes. You've got this!
This is really helpful advice! I'm actually in a somewhat similar situation (though not quite as many years behind) and I had no idea about the wage transcripts option for rental applications. That could be a game-changer for getting housing sorted while working through the tax stuff. Carter, when you went through this, did you end up using a professional or doing it yourself? I'm trying to weigh the cost vs. the complexity, especially since it sounds like the First Time Penalty Abatement thing could save a lot of money if done right.
@833b61bcc5df I ended up doing a hybrid approach - got an initial consultation with an Enrolled Agent to understand my situation and create a game plan, then handled most of the actual filing myself using tax software for previous years. The consultation cost me about $150 but it was worth it because they helped me prioritize which years to file first and walked me through the First Time Penalty Abatement process. The EA also helped me understand that since I had been having taxes withheld, I was actually due refunds for 3 out of 5 years I needed to catch up on. That consultation basically paid for itself in peace of mind and strategy. For someone like Ryder with multiple income sources including freelance work, I'd definitely recommend at least getting professional guidance on the approach even if you do the legwork yourself.
Hey Ryder, I completely understand the anxiety you're feeling right now - this situation is way more common than you might think! The fact that you're addressing it proactively at 25 shows maturity, and you're definitely not "too late" to fix this. Here's some immediate reassurance: if you've been working regular jobs since 19, your employers were almost certainly withholding federal taxes from your paychecks. This means there's a good chance you won't owe massive amounts, and you might even be due refunds for some years, especially if you were single with standard deductions. For your apartment situation, you can request "wage and income transcripts" directly from the IRS that show your earnings history even without filed returns. Many landlords will accept these as proof of income while you're getting caught up on filing. My recommendation would be to start by gathering any tax documents you can find (W-2s, 1099s, bank statements), then consider a consultation with a tax professional who specializes in unfiled returns. They can help you prioritize which years to tackle first and potentially qualify you for First Time Penalty Abatement, which can waive many late fees. The relief you'll feel once this is resolved will be enormous. You're taking the right steps by addressing it now rather than continuing to avoid it!
I'm waiting on my Indiana refund too! Filed last week and still showing "processing" - hopefully it switches to approved soon. The waiting game is always nerve-wracking, especially when you need that money š
Same here! Filed mine about 10 days ago and still stuck on processing. At least you know once it hits "approved" it should be pretty quick based on what everyone's saying. Fingers crossed we both get good news soon! š¤
Just got my Indiana refund deposited this morning - exactly 2 business days after approval! Filed with direct deposit and it showed up around 6 AM. For anyone still waiting, the Indiana Department of Revenue seems pretty consistent with their timeline. Good luck everyone! š
That's awesome news! Gives me hope since I just got approved yesterday. Did you get any notification from your bank or did it just show up when you checked? Also wondering if the time of day matters - like do they usually process these deposits overnight?
I'm new to this situation but wanted to share what I learned after doing some research on this exact issue. The consensus seems clear that you need to report the rental income, but I found a few additional points that might help: One thing I discovered is that you can also deduct a portion of your homeowner's insurance, any HOA fees if you have them, and even home security system costs if your roommates benefit from them. These smaller deductions can add up. Also, since you mentioned you claimed 0 allowances all year, you might actually get a decent refund even after reporting the rental income, especially once you factor in all the deductions. The extra withholding from your W-4 could work in your favor here. I'd definitely recommend keeping detailed records of any improvements you make to the rental areas going forward - things like new locks, paint, flooring, etc. can often be deducted in the year you make them if they're for maintenance/repair rather than major improvements. The peace of mind of being compliant is worth way more than the tax savings from hiding income. Plus, having legitimate rental income documented can actually help you if you ever want to refinance or get other loans since it shows additional income stream.
This is really helpful! I hadn't thought about the HOA fees and security system costs - those definitely apply to my situation. Quick question about the improvements vs. repairs distinction you mentioned: if I repaint a room specifically because a roommate is moving in, would that count as a deductible repair or would it be considered an improvement? I want to make sure I'm categorizing these expenses correctly from the start. Also, you make a great point about the documented income helping with future loans. I'm actually thinking about potentially buying another property down the line, and having this rental income properly reported could definitely strengthen my debt-to-income ratio for qualification purposes.
Great question about the paint! Generally, repainting would be considered a deductible repair/maintenance expense rather than an improvement, especially if you're doing it to maintain the property or prepare it for rental. The IRS typically views improvements as things that add value or extend the life of the property significantly (like a new roof or major renovations), while repairs maintain the current condition. For repainting a room for a new roommate, you should be able to deduct the rental percentage of that cost in the year you do it. Just keep the paint receipts and a note about which room/area it was for. You're absolutely right about the loan qualification benefits! I've seen people struggle to get approved for investment properties because they couldn't document their rental income properly. Having everything reported correctly from the start creates a paper trail that lenders love to see. It shows stable, legitimate additional income that can really help your debt-to-income ratio for future purchases.
I want to add one more important consideration that I haven't seen mentioned yet - make sure you understand the tax implications if you ever decide to stop renting out rooms or sell your house. If you've been claiming depreciation on the rental portion of your home and then convert it back to 100% personal use, you'll still owe depreciation recapture taxes on the amount you've claimed over the years. This applies even if you never sell the house - just converting back to personal use triggers the recapture. Also, keep in mind that you'll need to be consistent with your rental reporting. If you start claiming rental income and deductions this year, the IRS will expect to see similar activity in future years unless you can document why the rental arrangement ended. On a practical note, I'd suggest opening a separate savings account specifically for setting aside money for the taxes on your rental income. Even with all the deductions, you'll probably still owe some tax on the net rental income, so it's good to be prepared rather than scrambling to find the money at tax time. The bottom line remains the same though - report the income, take the legitimate deductions, and sleep well knowing you're doing things properly. The tax hit really isn't as bad as you think once you account for all the offset expenses!
This is such valuable insight about the long-term implications! I hadn't considered the depreciation recapture issue when converting back to personal use - that's definitely something to factor into the decision of whether to claim depreciation in the first place. The separate savings account idea is brilliant too. I'm thinking maybe setting aside around 15-20% of the net rental income after deductions to cover the tax liability? That way I won't be caught off guard come tax season. One follow-up question: if I decide to stop renting rooms but keep the house as my primary residence, is there a specific form or process I need to follow to notify the IRS that I'm no longer operating a rental, or do I just stop filing Schedule E going forward? I want to make sure I handle any future transitions properly from the start. Thanks for thinking through all these scenarios - it's really helping me understand this isn't just a one-year decision but something that has ongoing implications for my tax situation.
Evan Kalinowski
Has anyone used TurboTax for handling RSUs? It's giving me fits and I've spent like 3 hours trying to figure out how to enter this correctly.
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Victoria Charity
ā¢I used TurboTax last year for my RSUs. When entering the 1099-B information, there should be an option to adjust the cost basis. Look for something like "This sale involves shares where the reported cost basis is incorrect" and it will let you enter the correct amount from your supplemental statement.
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Isabella Ferreira
This is exactly the situation I'm dealing with right now! My company's HR department told me that the RSU income would be "handled automatically" but they didn't explain that the 1099-B would show zero cost basis. I was panicking thinking I owed taxes on the full sale amount. Just to clarify for anyone else reading - the key thing to remember is that when RSUs vest, you already pay ordinary income tax on their fair market value at that time (shown on your W-2). That fair market value becomes your cost basis for the shares. So when you sell, you only owe capital gains tax on any appreciation above that vesting-day value. The zero cost basis on the 1099-B is just because many brokers don't track the correct basis for employee stock compensation. Always keep those supplemental statements they send you - you'll need them every year you have stock sales!
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Ashley Simian
ā¢Thank you for breaking this down so clearly! I'm in my first year dealing with RSUs and was completely overwhelmed by all the different forms. Your explanation about the vesting day fair market value becoming the cost basis makes perfect sense now. One follow-up question - do you happen to know if there's a specific place on the supplemental statement where the cost basis is clearly labeled? Mine has a lot of numbers and dates and I want to make sure I'm using the right figure when I adjust my Schedule D. Also, did your company provide any additional documentation beyond what the broker sent, or was the supplemental statement sufficient for your tax filing?
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Jackie Martinez
ā¢@Ashley Simian The supplemental statement usually shows the cost basis in a few different ways. Look for columns labeled something like Adjusted "Cost Basis, Tax" "Cost, or" Acquisition "Cost. Some" brokers also include a section that specifically breaks down each lot with the vesting date and the fair market value on that date - that FMV is your cost basis. In my experience, the broker s'supplemental statement was sufficient for filing. My company s'HR department also provided an annual summary of all equity compensation that cross-referenced the broker s'data, which was helpful for double-checking, but not strictly necessary for the tax return itself. Pro tip: Keep a spreadsheet tracking each vesting event with the date, number of shares, and FMV per share. It makes things much easier when you re'dealing with multiple sales throughout the year or in future years!
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