As someone who works at a bank (not a tax professional tho!), I can confirm what everyone's saying. Regular bank fees aren't reportable on taxes. The 1099-INT just shows interest EARNED, not fees PAID. Think of it this way - the govt only cares about taxing money you receive (income), not money you pay out in most cases. Bank fees are just a cost of having the account, like paying for a haircut or something.

Great question! I was in the same boat when I first started filing taxes. The confusion between different types of withdrawal fees is totally understandable. Just to add to what others have said - the key distinction is between regular banking fees (like what you experienced) versus early withdrawal penalties from tax-advantaged accounts. Your savings account withdrawal fee is just a regular bank service charge, similar to ATM fees or monthly maintenance fees. These aren't tax events. The withdrawal penalties that DO matter for taxes are things like early distributions from IRAs, 401(k)s, or breaking a CD before maturity. Those penalties are often deductible because they're tied to taxable income or investment accounts. For your 1099-INT, you only need to worry about reporting the interest amount shown in Box 1. Keep it simple - report the interest income, ignore the fees, and you'll be all set for your first filing!

Wow, this thread has been absolutely incredible to read through! As a newcomer to this community, I'm blown away by how everyone has turned what started as a frustration post into this comprehensive guide for actually reaching humans at the IRS. I've been putting off calling the IRS for months about a question regarding my dependent tax credit eligibility, and honestly, reading all these automated system horror stories had me convinced it was hopeless. But seeing the consistent success pattern that's emerged here - the early morning tax form line strategy (800-829-3676), the 6:50 AM timing to get into the queue before 7 AM opening, having that one-sentence summary ready, and collecting direct extensions before transfers - has completely changed my perspective. What really gives me confidence is seeing how many different types of issues people have successfully resolved using these same basic strategies. From Hassan's payment posting problems to Sophie's international tax questions to Ezra's crypto issues - it shows these aren't just lucky coincidences but actually reliable methods that work across different situations. I'm particularly grateful for all the specific extensions people have shared: extension 336 for Account Management, 447 for Digital Assets, 892 for International Tax, and 623 for payment discrepancies. Having these direct department contacts feels like having a roadmap through the system instead of just hoping to get lucky. This community collaboration is exactly what makes forums like this so valuable. Thank you to everyone who took the time to share not just that it worked, but exactly HOW it worked with specific details. I'm finally ready to make my own IRS call tomorrow morning!

This entire thread has been absolutely life-changing for me! I've been struggling with the same IRS phone system nightmare for over two months, getting trapped in those endless automated loops that Carmen described so perfectly in the original post. After reading through everyone's detailed success stories and strategies, I finally worked up the courage to try the combination approach yesterday morning. I called the tax form line (800-829-3676) at 6:48 AM on a Thursday, got into the queue before they officially opened at 7 AM, and when someone answered at 7:12 AM, I used the concise one-sentence approach: "I need help understanding which forms apply to my retirement account early withdrawal situation." The representative was incredibly helpful and immediately recognized this as a retirement distribution issue. She transferred me to what she called the "Retirement Plans Unit" and gave me their direct extension (529) in case I got disconnected. The specialist I spoke with not only answered all my questions about Form 5329 and the 10% penalty exceptions but also helped me understand some options I didn't even know existed. Total time from dialing to having my complex retirement withdrawal questions fully resolved: 38 minutes. After months of automated frustration, finally talking to knowledgeable humans who actually wanted to help was incredible! What amazes me most is how this community turned one person's frustration into this comprehensive playbook that actually works. The consistency across everyone's experiences - early morning timing, tax form line, one-sentence summaries, collecting extensions - shows these aren't just lucky breaks but reliable strategies. Thank you to everyone who shared their specific experiences and made the IRS system finally feel manageable!

One thing nobody's mentioned - the American Rescue Plan temporarily expanded the Child Tax Credit for 2021 to $3,600 for children under 6 and $3,000 for children 6-17, with monthly advance payments. That might explain some of what you saw with your friends if they were getting monthly payments during that time.

Your friends might also be benefiting from state-level tax credits that vary by location. Some states offer additional child tax credits, dependent exemptions, or even credits for childcare expenses that stack on top of federal benefits. Also consider timing - if they had babies in recent years, they might have received stimulus payments for dependents ($1,400 per child in 2021), plus any expanded child tax credit payments. That could have provided significant cash flow during 2021-2022 that helped with major purchases. Another factor could be employer benefits you're not seeing - some companies offer adoption/fertility assistance, dependent care assistance programs, or even housing stipends for growing families. These aren't always obvious from the outside. But honestly, Amara is right - the tax benefits are nice but they're nowhere close to covering the actual costs. If your friends seem to be thriving financially, there's probably something else going on beyond just tax savings!

As someone who just went through this exact same nightmare last month, I can confirm that the Free File Fillable Forms workaround really does work! I spent almost a week fighting with the broken Online Payment Agreement system before finding a similar discussion that pointed me to Form 9465 through the Free File portal. What's particularly frustrating is that this seems to be an ongoing issue that the IRS hasn't prioritized fixing, even though it's affecting thousands of taxpayers during the most critical time of year. The fact that they have a working system (Free File) but their main payment portal is broken shows poor system integration on their end. For anyone trying the Free File route, one tip: make sure you have your exact AGI from your current tax return handy, not last year's. The form asks for current year information to verify your identity. Also, if you've already tried the broken system multiple times, you might want to wait 24 hours before trying Free File - I've heard some people say the systems can get confused if you try too many approaches too quickly. It's honestly ridiculous that taxpayers have to become tech support specialists just to pay what we owe, but at least this community has figured out the workarounds the IRS should be providing officially!

I just want to echo what everyone else has said about how incredibly helpful this thread has been! I'm dealing with the exact same frustrating IRS Online Payment Agreement errors and was starting to panic about missing deadlines and facing penalties. After reading through all the experiences shared here, it's clear this is a widespread technical issue on the IRS side that's been going on for weeks. The fact that so many people are hitting the same error walls really validates that this isn't user error - it's their broken system. I'm planning to try the Free File Fillable Forms approach (Form 9465) that multiple people have confirmed works successfully. It makes perfect sense that it would function properly since it runs on different infrastructure than the main payment agreement system that's currently broken. What really impressed me about this community is how everyone shared not just workarounds, but also important details like wait times for different phone lines, tips about having the right information ready, and reassurance about the IRS being understanding about delays caused by their technical problems. For any other newcomers finding this thread while desperately searching for solutions - you're not alone, and there are definitely working alternatives! The Free File route seems to be the most consistently successful based on everyone's reports here.

For married filing separately (MFS) folks looking at backdoor Roth, remember this isn't just about income limits. The contribution deductibility for traditional IRAs is also affected by your MFS status and whether you're covered by a retirement plan at work. If you're MFS and covered by a workplace retirement plan, the income limit for deducting traditional IRA contributions is VERY low (under $10,000 for 2022). This is why many MFS filers end up with non-deductible traditional contributions anyway, making backdoor Roth often a good strategy regardless.

Great question about backdoor Roth with MFS! I went through this exact process last year and want to share a few key points that helped me: First, you're correct that this is a conversion, not a recharacterization. The process is: make non-deductible traditional IRA contribution → convert to Roth IRA. You'll owe taxes only on any earnings that occur between contribution and conversion (usually minimal if done quickly). For MFS filers, the backdoor Roth is often the ONLY way to get money into a Roth since the income limits are so low. Make sure you understand that even though you're MFS, you still use the same Form 8606 to report the non-deductible contribution and conversion. One thing that tripped me up initially: if you have ANY existing traditional IRA balances (including old 401k rollovers), the pro-rata rule applies to the entire balance across all your traditional IRAs. This can create unexpected taxes on the conversion. The key is proper documentation - keep records of your contribution being non-deductible and file Form 8606 both for the contribution year and conversion year (if different). I'd strongly recommend running through the numbers with a tax professional if you have multiple IRA accounts or complex situations.