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KylieRose

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5 Something nobody has mentioned yet - if you're being audited, consider getting professional help! I tried handling my first audit alone and it was a disaster. For my second one, I hired a tax attorney and the difference was night and day. The attorney knew exactly what the IRS was looking for, which arguments would work, and kept me from saying things that could have caused bigger problems. Yes, it costs money, but they saved me way more than their fee in the end.

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KylieRose

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13 Is an attorney better than a CPA for audit representation? I've heard mixed things. Also, what's a reasonable price range for either one? I'm trying to figure out if I can afford it.

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QuantumQuasar

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Both CPAs and tax attorneys can represent you in an audit, but there are some key differences. CPAs are generally less expensive (usually $150-300/hour vs $300-500/hour for attorneys) and are great for straightforward audits involving documentation and calculation issues. Tax attorneys are better if you're facing potential fraud allegations or criminal issues, since they have attorney-client privilege protection that CPAs don't have. For most small business audits like yours, a CPA with audit experience is probably sufficient and more cost-effective. Some will even work on a flat fee basis for simple audits. Shop around and ask specifically about their audit representation experience - not all tax preparers are comfortable or skilled at handling IRS audits.

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Don't overlook the importance of understanding what TYPE of audit you're facing! There are three main types: correspondence audits (handled by mail), office audits (you go to an IRS office), and field audits (they come to you). Most audits are actually correspondence audits where they're just questioning specific items and you can respond by mail. These are much less intimidating than people think. The audit letter should clearly state which type it is and exactly what documentation they want. If it's a correspondence audit, you might not need all the extensive preparation others are mentioning - just focus on the specific items they're questioning. But if it's an office or field audit, then yes, you'll want to be much more thoroughly prepared with all your documentation organized as others have described. Read that audit letter very carefully - it will tell you exactly what they want and what type of response is required!

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This is such an important distinction that I wish I had known earlier! When I first got my audit notice, I immediately panicked and started gathering every single document from the past 3 years. Turns out it was just a correspondence audit about one business expense deduction they wanted more details on. I could have saved myself weeks of stress by just carefully reading what they were actually asking for. The letter even had a checklist of the specific documents they wanted. Sometimes we make these situations way more complicated than they need to be!

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Keisha Taylor

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18 There's a LOT of misinformation about going to jail for tax mistakes. To be clear: the IRS has to prove WILLFUL evasion to pursue criminal charges. Forgetting to include a W-2 is not going to meet that standard! I used to work at a tax resolution firm, and in 5 years I never saw a single case where someone went to jail for an honest mistake like this. The people who face criminal charges are the ones who set up elaborate schemes to hide millions, file totally fake returns, or consistently lie to IRS agents during an audit. File your amendment, pay what you can, and set up a payment plan for the rest. I promise you'll be fine.

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Keisha Taylor

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11 This is really reassuring. I've been worried about a similar situation. What about penalties though? Are those automatic or can you get out of them?

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Penalties aren't always automatic - you can often get them reduced or waived if you have reasonable cause. For first-time offenders who file an amended return voluntarily, the IRS is usually pretty lenient. When you file your 1040-X, include a letter explaining it was an honest mistake and that you discovered the error yourself. They have something called "first-time penalty abatement" that can eliminate penalties entirely if you have a clean compliance history. Even if you don't qualify for that, they'll often reduce penalties when you can show reasonable cause for the error.

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I completely understand your panic - I went through the exact same thing two years ago and was convinced I was going to end up in handcuffs! But everyone here is absolutely right - you're not going to jail over this. The key thing is that you discovered this mistake yourself and you're taking action to fix it. That's exactly what the IRS wants to see. I filed my amended return (Form 1040-X) within two weeks of discovering my error, included a simple letter explaining it was an oversight, and the whole thing was resolved without any drama. One thing that really helped calm my nerves was calling the IRS directly to confirm I was handling it correctly. Yes, it took forever to get through, but the agent was actually really understanding and walked me through the process. The interest and penalties ended up being way less scary than I thought - maybe $50 on top of the $600 I owed. And they let me set up a payment plan for the whole amount. Looking back, I wasted way more energy worrying about it than the actual resolution took. You've got this! File that amendment ASAP and you'll feel so much better once it's submitted.

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience! This is exactly what I needed to hear. I've been spiraling with anxiety about this for days, but hearing from someone who actually went through the same thing and came out fine on the other side is incredibly reassuring. $50 in penalties on $600 owed doesn't sound nearly as terrifying as what my imagination was conjuring up. I think I've been reading too many scary stories online and working myself into a panic. I'm going to start working on my Form 1040-X tonight and get it filed this week. Did you have any trouble figuring out how to fill it out, or was it pretty straightforward once you had all your documents together?

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The Form 1040-X was actually much more straightforward than I expected! The hardest part was just gathering all my documents and doing the math to figure out the differences between my original return and what it should have been. The form itself walks you through it pretty clearly - you basically fill in what you originally reported, what it should have been, and the difference. Then there's a section where you explain the changes in plain English. I just wrote something like "Failed to include W-2 from [employer name] due to oversight. Discovered error when organizing tax documents." One tip: make sure you attach a copy of that missing W-2 to your amended return. And if you're filing by mail (which you have to do with 1040-X), send it certified mail so you have proof it was received. The whole process from start to finish took maybe 2 hours, and most of that was just double-checking my math. You'll feel SO much relief once you drop that envelope in the mail!

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Amina Bah

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I can definitely help put your mind at ease! I received a $15,300 tax refund through Chime just last month with absolutely zero issues. Like everyone else has confirmed, the $10k limit only applies to mobile check deposits - when you take photos of paper checks through the app. Tax refunds come through as ACH direct deposits from the Treasury Department, which fall under Chime's much higher $25,000 daily direct deposit limit. Your $12,500 refund is well within that range and will process normally. The only thing to expect is that Chime might place a temporary security hold on the funds for 24-48 hours since it's a larger deposit than your usual amounts. This is standard fraud protection that most banks do for significant deposits. You'll get push notifications in the app when it arrives and again when the hold is released. I totally understand the stress while waiting - I was checking my account every few hours! But you really don't need to worry about this. Chime handles thousands of large tax refunds every filing season. Your refund should hit your account exactly as the IRS scheduled it. Just make sure your notifications are enabled so you'll know the moment it arrives! πŸ™‚

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PixelWarrior

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This is so reassuring to hear from someone who just went through this recently! It's really helpful to get that confirmation from such a recent experience. I've been obsessively checking the IRS "Where's My Refund" tool and my Chime account multiple times a day, so I totally understand that feeling of constantly monitoring everything. The 24-48 hour security hold timeline is good to know - definitely seems worth it for the peace of mind that they're protecting against fraud. Thanks for the detailed explanation about the difference between mobile check deposits and ACH direct deposits - that distinction has been the source of so much confusion for me! Really appreciate everyone in this community taking the time to share their real experiences πŸ™

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CosmicCadet

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I've been using Chime for about 18 months and just wanted to add my experience to help ease your worries! I received a $11,900 tax refund through Chime back in March with no issues whatsoever. Like everyone else has confirmed, that $10k limit only applies to mobile check deposits (photographing paper checks), not direct deposits from the IRS. Your tax refund comes through as an ACH direct deposit from the Treasury Department, which falls under their $25,000 daily direct deposit limit, so your $12,500 is completely fine. The confusion happens because people don't realize there are different types of deposits with different limits. Chime did put a 1-day hold on mine for security verification, but honestly it made me feel more confident in their fraud protection. Got clear notifications when it arrived and when it was released. You're definitely overthinking this - Chime processes huge volumes of tax refunds every season without problems. Just make sure your account info is current and notifications are on so you'll know exactly when it hits! Stop stressing and start planning what you'll do with that money instead 😊

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Chris Elmeda

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I had almost the exact same experience with my installment plan setup fee! The key thing to remember is that you have more leverage than you think when calling the IRS, especially if you're paying quickly after receiving the agreement. When I called, I didn't overthink the justification for the fee waiver - I simply explained that I had received the agreement letter, was surprised by the high setup fee relative to my total balance, and wanted to pay in full immediately to avoid ongoing interest and fees. I mentioned that paying the full amount right away seemed like it would be better for both me and the IRS since it closes out my case quickly. The representative actually seemed to appreciate that I was being proactive about resolving my debt completely rather than dragging it out over months. They waived the setup fee without much pushback. One additional tip: when you call, have your full tax return and the installment agreement letter in front of you. They'll likely ask for your SSN, the agreement number, and possibly some details from your return to verify your identity and pull up your case. Also, don't be discouraged if the first representative says they can't waive the fee - you can always politely ask to speak with a supervisor or call back and try with someone else. Different reps sometimes have different levels of authority or willingness to work with you. You're definitely doing the right thing by paying it off in full rather than getting locked into monthly payments with interest!

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone who actually got the fee waived! I like your approach of framing it as being proactive and beneficial for both parties. That seems like a much more diplomatic way to present it than just complaining about the fee amount. Good point about having all the documents ready - I'll make sure to have my tax return and agreement letter right in front of me when I call. And thanks for the tip about potentially asking for a supervisor if the first rep can't help. I hadn't thought about the fact that different representatives might have different authority levels. One quick follow-up question: do you remember roughly how long the whole phone call took from start to finish? I'm trying to plan my day tomorrow and want to make sure I block out enough time to get this fully resolved in one call if possible.

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Javier Torres

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I went through this exact situation about 6 months ago and want to share what worked for me! The $295 setup fee on a $780 balance is definitely frustrating - I had a similar ratio on my installment plan. Here's the step-by-step approach that got me the best outcome: 1. **Call early in the morning** (around 8:00 AM) using the number on your agreement letter. The wait times are much shorter then. 2. **Be upfront and confident** when you speak to the representative. Say something like: "I received my installment agreement but I've decided to pay my full balance immediately. I'd like to cancel the installment plan and request that the $295 setup fee be waived since I'm paying in full right away." 3. **Emphasize the timing** - mention that you're calling within days of receiving the agreement and that paying immediately benefits both you and the IRS by closing the case quickly. 4. **Get everything in writing** - This is crucial! Ask for written confirmation that shows both your balance paid in full AND your installment agreement officially cancelled. In my case, the representative waived the entire setup fee without much discussion. I think they see a lot of people who genuinely want to resolve their tax debt quickly and are willing to work with you. Don't worry about the website showing your account as unavailable - that's completely normal when installment agreements are in flux in their system. Focus on the phone call and direct payment. You're making the smart financial move here. Good luck!

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Sean Murphy

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This is exactly the kind of detailed roadmap I needed! I really appreciate you laying out the specific language to use when calling - having that concrete script makes me feel much more confident about approaching this conversation. The timing aspect you mentioned makes a lot of sense too. I can see how framing it as "I'm being proactive and this helps both of us" would be more effective than just complaining about the fee amount. Quick question about the written confirmation - when you requested that, did they send it automatically or did you have to follow up? I want to make sure I don't let that slip through the cracks since it sounds like that documentation is really important for avoiding future issues. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience - it's incredibly helpful to hear from someone who successfully navigated this exact situation!

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Thanks so much for this professional insight! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who works directly with tax codes that the 1242L situation is incredibly common and that HMRC generally gets these calculations right. Your point about the P11D process is particularly helpful - I didn't realize employers provided such detailed information about taxable benefits to HMRC. That explains why the tax code adjustments are usually so accurate for these smaller benefits like medical insurance or gym memberships. I also appreciate the heads up that tax codes can change during the year as circumstances change. That's good to know so I won't be surprised if I see adjustments in future payslips due to salary increases or new benefits. The confirmation that payroll teams can usually explain tax codes within minutes is exactly what I needed to hear. It makes approaching them feel much less daunting than trying to navigate HMRC's phone system first. This whole thread has been incredibly educational, but having professional validation of all the advice really puts the cherry on top. Thanks for taking the time to share your expertise with the community!

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This professional perspective is incredibly valuable! As someone who was initially quite worried about my tax code situation, it's so reassuring to hear from someone who works directly with these codes every day that the 1242L is nothing unusual. Your explanation about the P11D process really helps me understand why HMRC would have accurate information about my benefits. I was wondering how they could know about things like my medical insurance, but it makes perfect sense that employers report all these details systematically. The point about tax codes potentially changing during the year is really useful to keep in mind. I hadn't thought about how salary increases or new benefits might trigger adjustments, so I'll know not to be alarmed if I see changes in future payslips. I'm definitely going to start with our payroll team as you've suggested - knowing they can typically explain these codes in minutes rather than requiring a lengthy call to HMRC makes the whole process seem much more manageable. Thanks for adding your professional expertise to this already incredibly helpful thread. It's amazing how this community has transformed what felt like a daunting tax issue into something I now completely understand!

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Logan Scott

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This has been such an incredibly thorough and helpful discussion! As someone new to this community, I'm amazed by how a simple question about a 1242L tax code has turned into such a comprehensive guide to understanding UK tax codes in general. What I found most valuable was how everyone built on each other's knowledge - from the basic explanation that 1242L means Β£12,420 tax-free allowance (Β£150 less than standard due to likely taxable benefits), to the practical tools like Personal Tax Account and services like taxr.ai and Claimyr, to the professional validation from someone who actually works in payroll. The progression from initial worry about "am I paying too much tax?" to understanding it's just a small Β£150 reduction costing about Β£30 extra per year really shows the power of community knowledge in breaking down intimidating government systems. I particularly appreciated all the real examples people shared - medical insurance, cycle-to-work schemes, student loan status changes, pension contributions - it really illustrates how many small factors can influence your tax code that you might not immediately consider. For anyone else finding this thread later with similar concerns, the systematic approach outlined here is perfect: check with payroll first, then Personal Tax Account online, then HMRC if needed. Thanks to everyone for creating such a welcoming and educational discussion!

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Emma Thompson

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This thread really has been incredible to follow! As someone completely new to understanding UK tax codes, I've learned so much from everyone's contributions. The way the discussion evolved from basic confusion about what 1242L means to having a complete understanding of personal allowances, taxable benefits, and practical steps to verify everything has been amazing. What really stood out to me was how reassuring everyone was while still being thorough and accurate. Transforming what seemed like a potentially expensive tax problem into understanding it's just a small administrative adjustment worth about Β£30 per year made such a difference to my stress levels! The variety of real-world examples people shared - from medical insurance to cycle-to-work schemes to student loan complications - really helped me understand how many different factors can affect your tax code. It's exactly the kind of practical knowledge you can't get from official government websites. I'm definitely bookmarking this thread as a reference guide. The step-by-step approach of checking with payroll first, then Personal Tax Account, then HMRC if needed gives such a clear roadmap for anyone dealing with tax code questions in the future. Thanks to everyone for making this such a welcoming and educational discussion - this is exactly why community forums like this are so valuable for navigating complex government systems!

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