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Ethan Wilson

Can't reach EDD after days of calling - mom can't sign PFL caregiver form after stroke

I'm at my wit's end trying to navigate the PFL caregiving leave process for my mom who had a severe stroke last month. I've been approved to take 8 weeks off work to care for her, but we're stuck on the forms. The Care Recipient form (DE2501F) states that if the recipient is physically/mentally unable to sign, we should call EDD. Well, that's been IMPOSSIBLE! I've tried calling right at 8:00am for FOUR DAYS STRAIGHT, and by 8:15am I get the automated message saying they've reached maximum callers and then it hangs up! I'm getting desperate because my leave starts next week, and my mom can physically not sign this form herself. Has anyone dealt with this specific situation with a care recipient who can't sign? Is there some document I can submit instead? A power of attorney? A doctor's note? I've already submitted my portion and her doctor completed the medical certification, but we're stuck on this one signature.

Yuki Tanaka

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omg the same exact thing happened with my dad after his heart attack!!! i called for TWO WEEKS and never got through. so frustrating!!!!!!

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Ethan Wilson

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Two weeks?? I can't wait that long... did you ever find a solution or just keep trying?

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Carmen Diaz

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I successfully navigated this situation last year. You need to get your mom's doctor to include a specific note on the medical certification form stating she is physically incapable of signing due to the stroke. Then attach a brief signed letter from yourself explaining the situation. My experience was that you should also fax (yes, fax!) this explanation to the PFL office at 1-855-237-6737 with your claim number at the top. Include your contact information so they can reach you if needed. The doctor's certification of incapacity should be sufficient to move forward. You may also need to get your documents notarized if you have Power of Attorney for your mother.

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Ethan Wilson

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Thank you so much for this detailed info! I do have POA for my mom - didn't realize I could use that here. I'll ask her neurologist to add that note to the form tomorrow and try the fax option. Really appreciate you sharing what worked!

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Andre Laurent

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AstroAce

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I've seen this recommended so many times, but does it actually work for PFL caregiving claims too? I thought it was just for disability and unemployment.

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Andre Laurent

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yeah it works for calling any EDD dept - they just get u past the hold time

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Just to clarify something important - there's a difference between the Claim for Paid Family Leave (PFL) Care Benefits (DE 2501F) and the Care Recipient's Authorization form. Both need to be filled out. If your mother has had a stroke and cannot sign, you MUST get through to EDD for guidance. However, if you have legal Power of Attorney for healthcare decisions, you can sign on her behalf. But here's the catch - you need to submit a copy of the POA documentation with your application. Keep in mind that the Care Recipient's Authorization allows the EDD to disclose information with you, while the DE 2501F is the actual claim form. Both are required for caregiver benefits.

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Ethan Wilson

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Oh! That's an important distinction I might have been missing. I have the POA documents but wasn't sure if I could use them for this. I'll make sure to submit a copy with both forms. Thank you for the clarification!

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Jamal Brown

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when my sister coudnt sign cus of her brain surgery the doctor just wrote UNABLE TO SIGN DUE TO MEDICAL CONDITION in big letters across the signature part and it got approved. worth a try if you cant get thru on the phone!

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Mei Zhang

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That method isn't officially sanctioned by EDD and could result in a claim denial or delay. The official protocol requires contacting EDD when the care recipient cannot sign the authorization form. While your sister's claim was approved, others might face complications using this unofficial workaround.

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Mei Zhang

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I work at an elder law firm and have helped many clients with this exact situation. Here's what you need to do: 1. If you have valid POA for your mother that specifically covers healthcare and/or financial decisions, you CAN sign on her behalf. Write "POA" after your signature. 2. Submit a copy (not original) of your POA documentation with your application. 3. Have the doctor include language in their certification that specifically states your mother is unable to sign due to her medical condition. 4. Include a brief cover letter explaining the situation. EDD officially says to call, but they acknowledge POA signatures when properly documented. This is standard practice for incapacitated care recipients. Also, submit everything via certified mail so you have proof of submission dates.

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Ethan Wilson

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I do have Durable POA that covers healthcare decisions. I'll follow these steps exactly. One question - do you know if I should submit everything together, or can I submit the POA documentation now since my initial claim is already in process?

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AstroAce

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I'm going through something similar with my father who has dementia. The EDD system is NOT designed well for these situations. I've been trying to call for weeks with no luck. It's so frustrating when you're already dealing with the stress of caring for a seriously ill family member. Has anyone had luck calling at a specific time of day? I've tried 8am, noon, and right before closing with no success.

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Try Wednesdays and Thursdays around 10:30am. For some reason, those seem to be slightly less busy in my experience. Also, if you have access to multiple phones, try calling from different numbers simultaneously - sometimes one will get through while others get the busy signal.

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Carmen Diaz

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UPDATE: I just remembered something important about the Care Recipient's Authorization for Disclosure of Personal Health Information form (DE 2525XX). If your mother is unable to consent due to her medical condition, there's actually a checkbox on the form that says: "I am legally authorized to consent on behalf of the care recipient identified above because the care recipient is a minor or is incapable of consenting because of physical or mental condition." Check that box, sign it as the authorized representative, and attach your POA documentation. The system is designed to accommodate this situation - you just need the right documentation!

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Ethan Wilson

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Oh my goodness, I completely missed that checkbox! I was so focused on trying to get her signature that I didn't even see that option. This is exactly what I needed to know. I'll check that box, sign as her authorized representative, and attach my POA documents. Thank you SO MUCH for pointing this out!

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Mateo Sanchez

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I went through this exact situation with my grandmother after her hip surgery left her unable to write. Here's what finally worked for me: 1. Contact your mom's neurologist ASAP and ask them to write a letter on hospital/clinic letterhead stating she is "medically incapable of providing written consent due to stroke-related impairment." 2. Get this letter notarized along with a copy of your POA documents. 3. Fill out the DE 2525XX form checking the box that says you're legally authorized to consent on her behalf due to her medical condition (as Carmen mentioned above - this is KEY!). 4. Submit everything together via certified mail AND fax it to 1-855-237-6737 with "MEDICAL INCAPACITY - CAREGIVER CLAIM" written at the top. I also called my state assemblyman's office and they have an EDD liaison who helped expedite my case. Don't be afraid to reach out to your local representatives - they deal with EDD issues all the time and can often get through when we can't. The whole process took about 3 weeks once I had all the right documentation, but my benefits were backdated to when my leave started. Hang in there!

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This is such a comprehensive guide - thank you for sharing your experience! I had no idea about contacting my assemblyman's office for EDD issues. That's brilliant! I'm going to follow your exact steps. Quick question - when you say the benefits were backdated, did that include the time you spent trying to get the paperwork sorted out, or just from when your official leave started? I'm worried about losing pay for these weeks I've been stuck in paperwork limbo.

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now with my uncle who had a traumatic brain injury. The information everyone has shared here is incredibly helpful! I wanted to add that if you're still having trouble getting through to EDD even after following all these steps, you might want to try contacting your local State Disability Insurance (SDI) office directly. They sometimes have separate phone lines that aren't as overwhelmed as the main EDD number. Also, I learned that some hospitals have patient advocates or social workers who are familiar with disability paperwork and can help you navigate the process. They might even have direct contacts at EDD for medical emergency situations. One more thing - document EVERYTHING. Keep a log of every call attempt, every form submitted, and every person you speak with. If there are any delays in processing your claim, this documentation can help prove you did everything correctly and on time. Best of luck to everyone going through this stressful process!

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Lauren Wood

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This is such valuable additional information! The hospital patient advocate suggestion is brilliant - I hadn't thought of that resource. My mom's stroke team at the hospital has been so helpful with other aspects of her care, I bet they deal with disability paperwork situations regularly. I'm definitely going to reach out to them tomorrow along with following all the POA documentation steps everyone outlined. And you're absolutely right about documenting everything - I've been so stressed I wasn't keeping good records, but I need to start tracking all my attempts and submissions. Thank you for the comprehensive advice!

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Monique Byrd

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I'm a case worker at a disability advocacy organization and see this situation frequently. One additional option that hasn't been mentioned yet - if you're still having trouble even with the POA documentation, you can request an "Administrative Review" through EDD's Appeals Office. This is typically used when there are extenuating circumstances that don't fit the standard process. You would need to submit a written request explaining that your mother is medically incapable of signing due to her stroke, attach all your POA documentation, and include the doctor's certification of incapacity. The Appeals Office has more flexibility to approve non-standard situations. Also, many people don't realize that EDD has regional offices that sometimes have less busy phone lines than the main number. Try calling the Sacramento regional office at (916) 464-3343 or the Los Angeles office at (213) 744-2084. Ask specifically to speak with a PFL specialist about a medical incapacity situation. The key phrase to use is "medical incapacity accommodation" - this signals that you're dealing with a disability-related issue that requires special handling under ADA guidelines.

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Tyler Lefleur

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This is incredibly helpful information that I wish I had known earlier! The "medical incapacity accommodation" phrase is something I definitely need to use when I call. I had no idea about the Appeals Office option or the regional phone numbers - those could be game changers. I'm going to try the Sacramento regional office tomorrow morning along with submitting all the POA documentation everyone has outlined. It's so reassuring to know there are multiple pathways when the standard process isn't working for these complex medical situations. Thank you for sharing your professional expertise!

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