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Ethan Moore

EDD PFL caregiving dilemma: Who can sign form DE 2501FC when parent can't?

I need urgent help with my PFL caregiving claim for my terminally ill mom. She's been in hospice for almost a month now, and I've been her primary caregiver since leaving my job. I filed for PFL caregiving benefits about 2 weeks ago, but I'm completely stuck on the DE 2501FC form, specifically Part C where my mom needs to sign as the care recipient. The problem is she's barely conscious most days and physically unable to sign anything. The form lists options for "Authorized Representative" signatures including "Parental Right", "Power of Attorney (attach copy)", and "Court Order (attach copy)". I have NO IDEA which one applies to my situation or what documentation I need! Does anyone know what qualifies when caring for a parent who can't sign? Do I need some kind of emergency POA? I've called EDD multiple times but can't get through to an actual person. The recording always says the line is full. My claim paperwork says I have a deadline to submit this form and with my mom's condition getting worse daily, I'm desperate for answers. Has anyone been through this with the caregiving PFL claim?

Yuki Nakamura

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I had a similar situation with my father last year. You need a Power of Attorney document for healthcare decisions. Since your mom isn't able to sign one now, you may need to look into emergency conservatorship through the courts, but that takes time. Call her doctor immediately - sometimes they can help with alternatives or sign as her medical provider on certain parts of the form. Do you have any siblings who might have POA already?

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Ethan Moore

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Thanks for the info. No siblings with POA, and mom didn't set one up before getting sick. I'll call her hospice doctor tomorrow first thing. Do you know if EDD will extend the deadline if I explain the situation? I'm terrified of losing the benefits since I've already been caregiving unpaid for weeks.

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StarSurfer

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call ur moms doctor ASAP! when my grandma was in hospice the doctor signed some paperwork for us saying she wasnt able to make decisions. bring that 2 edd. they should accept it but u need 2 talk to a real person there

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Carmen Reyes

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Unfortunately, EDD specifically requires one of the three options listed on the form for PFL caregiving claims. A doctor's note about capacity isn't sufficient by itself for the DE 2501FC form. The OP needs to get proper legal documentation like a POA or start emergency conservatorship proceedings.

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Carmen Reyes

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I work with elder care issues, and this is unfortunately common with PFL caregiving claims. For the DE 2501FC form, here are your options: 1. If you have ANY documentation showing your mom previously authorized you to make decisions (even emails or texts), gather those immediately 2. You need an emergency temporary conservatorship. Contact your county's probate court - many have self-help centers for exactly this situation 3. Some hospice organizations have legal assistance programs that can expedite these documents - ask your hospice coordinator TODAY As for the EDD deadline - call first thing in the morning at 8:00am sharp when their lines open. Keep calling. Explain your situation and request an extension due to these extenuating circumstances. They can add notes to your claim and typically grant 15-day extensions in these situations.

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Andre Moreau

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This is super helpful information. I went through something similar last year but nobody told me about the county probate court self-help option. Would have saved me SO much stress!

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Ethan Moore

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Thanks for this suggestion. At this point I'd pay anything to talk to a real person at EDD. I'll check out that service tomorrow if I can't get through in the morning. Did they need any special information from you to put a hold on the deadline?

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I used this service too when I was dealing with my SDI to PFL transition and it actually worked. The EDD rep was surprised I got through because apparently their lines have been overwhelmed with the new tax year starting. Just have your claim number ready.

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Mei Chen

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The WHOLE EDD system is designed to make you fail!!! I spent 5 weeks trying to sort out my PFL claim and lost almost $4,000 in benefits because of their incompetence. They DELIBERATELY make these forms confusing and the phone lines NEVER work. It's a SCAM to avoid paying benefits that we're entitled to!!! My advice? Document EVERYTHING. Record dates, times, names of anyone you talk to. When you finally get through, DEMAND a supervisor immediately. The first-level agents don't know anything and give wrong information. Don't let them push you around!!

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Ethan Moore

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I'm definitely feeling that frustration. Every day that passes is money I desperately need to pay bills while caring for mom. Did recording all that information actually help you resolve your claim?

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Yuki Nakamura

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While I understand your frustration, I've found that approaching EDD agents respectfully tends to get better results. They're overworked and dealing with an outdated system. That said, documenting everything is excellent advice for any government benefit claim.

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Andre Moreau

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Just wanted to add - make sure you're applying for CFRA (California Family Rights Act) leave from your employer too if you're eligible. It doesn't pay you but protects your job for up to 12 weeks while you care for your mom. Many people don't realize this is different from PFL.

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Ethan Moore

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Thanks for mentioning this. I actually had to quit my job because they wouldn't approve extended leave for caregiving (small company with less than 20 employees). So I'm fully depending on the PFL benefits to survive financially right now, which is why I'm so stressed about this form.

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Carmen Reyes

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Quick update on my earlier advice - I just learned that as of January 2025, EDD has a new provision for terminal illness situations. If your mother's doctor completes the "Physician Certification of Patient Capacity" form (DE2501FC-PC) and submits it with your regular caregiving certification, this can temporarily substitute for the authorized representative requirement. This form isn't mentioned on their website yet, but if you request it specifically when you get through to an agent, they can email it to you. This is a much faster solution than emergency conservatorship for hospice situations.

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Ethan Moore

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This could be a game-changer! Thank you so much. I'll specifically ask about the DE2501FC-PC form when I call tomorrow. I had no idea this option existed. Her hospice doctor has been very helpful so I'm sure he'd complete this form quickly. Fingers crossed this works!

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When my neighbor went through something similar, there was also something about a "caregiver authorization affidavit" that might help? I'm not sure if that applies to adult parents though, I think it might be just for kids. But worth asking about maybe?

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Carmen Reyes

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You're thinking of the Caregiver's Authorization Affidavit, but you're right that it only applies to minors, not adult parents. It's a common confusion, but that form won't help in this situation with an adult parent in hospice care.

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LunarLegend

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I'm so sorry you're going through this difficult situation with your mom. Based on what others have shared here, I'd recommend trying multiple approaches simultaneously since time is critical: 1. Call EDD at exactly 8:00 AM when lines open - keep trying every few minutes 2. Contact your mom's hospice doctor TODAY about the DE2501FC-PC form that Carmen mentioned - this sounds like your best option for terminal illness situations 3. Also ask the hospice social worker if they have any legal resources or can help expedite documentation I went through something similar with my grandmother last year, and the hospice team was incredibly helpful with paperwork and knew exactly what forms were needed for different benefit programs. They deal with these situations regularly and often have connections with agencies like EDD. Don't give up - you're doing everything right by seeking help and advocating for your mom. The system is frustrating but there are solutions available for your exact situation.

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Omar Fawzi

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now with my father who has dementia and can't sign any documents. What saved me was contacting the local Area Agency on Aging - they have emergency legal aid specifically for situations like this. They helped me get a limited conservatorship for healthcare decisions within 5 days instead of the usual weeks. Also, don't wait for EDD to call you back - I found that faxing a letter explaining the urgent medical situation directly to their disability services department (along with a doctor's note about your mom's condition) got me a faster response than phone calls. The fax number is on the back of the DE 2501FC form in small print. Keep documenting everything and don't give up. Your mom is lucky to have you advocating for her during this difficult time.

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Tate Jensen

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Thank you for sharing your experience with the Area Agency on Aging - I had no idea they could help with emergency conservatorship situations! That 5-day timeline sounds much more manageable than what I was expecting. I'll look up my local agency first thing tomorrow. The fax suggestion is also really helpful - I've been so focused on trying to get through by phone that I didn't think about faxing documentation directly. Do you remember if they required any specific wording in the letter you sent explaining the urgent situation?

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Maya Patel

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I'm going through something very similar with my disabled sister right now, and I wanted to share what finally worked for me after weeks of frustration. The breakthrough came when I contacted my county's Public Guardian's office - they have a specific process for emergency situations involving family caregivers and government benefits. They were able to provide me with a "Declaration of Incapacity and Emergency Authorization" form that satisfied EDD's requirements without needing a full conservatorship. Here's what I'd suggest doing TODAY: 1. Call your county's Public Guardian or Public Administrator office (not the same as Area Agency on Aging) 2. Explain you need emergency authorization to sign government benefit forms for a terminally ill parent 3. Ask specifically about their "emergency caregiver authorization" process For EDD, I also found that calling their Disability Insurance line (not the regular unemployment line) at 1-800-480-3287 got me through faster. When you do get through, immediately say "I need to speak to someone about a PFL caregiving claim for a terminally ill patient who cannot sign required forms." This usually gets you transferred to someone who actually knows about these special circumstances. The whole process took me about a week once I found the right people to talk to. Hang in there - there are solutions, the system just doesn't make them easy to find.

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Luca Conti

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This is incredibly helpful information! I never would have thought to contact the Public Guardian's office, but your "Declaration of Incapacity and Emergency Authorization" sounds like exactly what I need. I'll call them first thing in the morning along with the EDD Disability Insurance line you mentioned. That's a much better approach than trying to navigate the regular unemployment phone system. Thank you for taking the time to share such detailed steps - it gives me hope that there's actually a clear path forward here. I really appreciate you sharing your experience since it sounds like you just went through this whole process recently.

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I'm so sorry you're dealing with this during such a difficult time. Based on the helpful advice shared here, it sounds like you have several promising options to pursue immediately. I wanted to add one more resource that might help - many hospitals and hospice facilities have patient advocacy departments that specifically deal with insurance and benefit issues. They often have direct contacts at EDD and can sometimes expedite urgent cases like yours. Ask your mom's hospice if they have a patient advocate or social worker who handles benefit claims. Also, if you do get through to EDD, make sure to get the representative's name and employee ID number, and ask them to email you a summary of what was discussed. This creates a paper trail that can be crucial if there are any delays or miscommunications later. You're doing an incredible job advocating for your mom during this challenging time. Don't let the system wear you down - keep pushing and using all these resources people have shared. Sending you strength and hoping you get this resolved quickly.

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Kaylee Cook

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Thank you Austin for mentioning the patient advocacy angle - that's such a good point about hospices having direct EDD contacts. I'm realizing I may have been approaching this too much on my own when there are professionals who deal with these exact situations daily. I'll definitely ask about a patient advocate when I call the hospice tomorrow morning. Getting an employee ID and email summary is also smart advice - I've been so focused on just getting through to someone that I hadn't thought about documenting the actual conversation for follow-up. This whole thread has been a lifeline honestly. I came here feeling completely lost and now I have like 5 different concrete steps to take tomorrow. Really grateful for this community support during such a scary time.

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Malik Thomas

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I'm really sorry you're going through this stressful situation while caring for your mom. Reading through all these responses, it sounds like you have some excellent actionable steps to take tomorrow. One thing I wanted to add that I learned when helping my aunt navigate similar issues - if you do end up needing to go the emergency conservatorship route, some counties have expedited processes specifically for terminal illness situations. When you call the probate court's self-help center (as Carmen suggested), make sure to emphasize that this is for a hospice patient with limited time. They often have special procedures that can fast-track these cases. Also, I noticed you mentioned having trouble reaching EDD by phone. In addition to the calling strategies others shared, try calling different regional offices if the main number isn't working. Sometimes the Fresno or San Bernardino offices have shorter wait times than the main Sacramento line, and they can all access your claim information. You're being such a devoted caregiver to your mom during this difficult time. Don't let the bureaucratic obstacles discourage you - there are people and systems in place to help, even if they're not easy to find initially. Wishing you success with all these leads tomorrow.

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