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Yuki Sato

EDD PFL caregiving claim denied due to out-of-state doctor - appeal submitted but total silence

I applied for PFL caregiving benefits after taking care of my dad during his final weeks (April 15 - May 23, 2025). His cancer progressed quickly and I had to travel between California and Nevada to be with him. EDD initially approved my claim but then denied it because my dad's oncologist in Nevada 'wasn't on their approved provider list.' I immediately appealed and submitted documentation from THREE different medical sources: his Nevada oncologist, his primary care doctor in Nevada, and the hospice facility where he passed. I submitted all this paperwork over two weeks ago. The most frustrating part is I have ZERO visibility into what's happening with my appeal. Unlike unemployment or disability, there's nothing showing online about my PFL caregiving claim status. I've called EDD multiple times but can't get through to anyone who can tell me what's going on. I have no idea if they're reviewing my appeal, if they need more information, or if they've even received what I sent. Is this complete information blackout normal for PFL caregiving appeals? I'm getting really worried since I took unpaid leave to be with my dad and I'm counting on this payment. Has anyone successfully appealed a denial based on an out-of-state doctor not being on their list?

Carmen Ruiz

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First, I'm sorry for your loss. Unfortunately, the radio silence from EDD during PFL appeals is completely normal, especially for caregiving claims (they seem to prioritize baby bonding claims). When my mom was dying last year, I had a similar issue with her out-of-state doctor in Oregon. The good news is that you've done everything right by submitting multiple medical sources. The hospice documentation will be particularly important. Here's what you need to know: 1. PFL caregiving appeals typically take 3-4 weeks to process, sometimes longer. 2. They won't update you online during the process. 3. They're supposed to send you an acknowledgment letter when they receive your appeal paperwork, but half the time they don't. 4. They CAN approve out-of-state doctors, but the reviewer needs to manually verify their credentials. Keep trying to call them. Ask specifically for a PFL specialist who handles caregiving claims. Regular EDD representatives often don't know how to check on these specialized appeals.

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Yuki Sato

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Thank you for the reassurance. I had no idea the processing would take so long! Did you eventually get your appeal approved with the out-of-state doctor? It feels like I'm sending paperwork into a black hole with no confirmation.

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I work with PFL claims regularly, and yes, the lack of online visibility for PFL caregiving claims (especially appeals) is a major flaw in their system. Here's what's likely happening: your appeal is sitting in a specialized queue waiting for a medical eligibility reviewer to look at your documentation. If it's been more than 14 days since you submitted your appeal, I'd recommend trying to reach someone by phone ASAP. The appeal window has specific deadlines, and you want to make sure they received everything properly. One thing to note: for out-of-state providers, EDD has to verify their medical license manually in that state's system. This often causes delays, but doesn't mean automatic denial. The hospice documentation should be sufficient regardless of state lines.

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Yuki Sato

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Thanks for this insight. I'm at day 16 now so definitely need to call. Do you know the best number to reach the PFL department directly? The main EDD line just keeps disconnecting me after putting me on hold for 45+ minutes.

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I had the EXACT same thing happen!!! my dad passed in Ariozna too but in 2024 and EDD rejected my caregiving claim because his doctor was "out of network" or whatever. I appealed and then heard NOTHING for like a month!!! I was freaking out bc I took unpaid leave and needed that money. The worst part is theres literally no way to check status online for PFL caregiving stuff. its like they dont care about people taking care of dying parents but if its a baby suddenly they care 🙄 after calling like 50 times i FINALLY got thru to someone who told me my appeal was approved but the letter was "still being processed" whatever that means! got the money 3 days later. keep calling!!

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This is so infuriating! Why can't they at least put a simple status update online? Like how hard is it to add "appeal received" or "under review" so people aren't completely in the dark? Sorry you went through this too.

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Mei Wong

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I used to work for EDD (not anymore thank god) and the PFL system is a mess. The caregiving claims get way less attention than baby bonding. Your appeal is probably sitting in a pile and hasn't even been looked at yet. Keep calling!

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Yuki Sato

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That's really disheartening to hear. I've been trying to call but can't get through to anyone who seems to know anything about PFL caregiving claims specifically.

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QuantumQuasar

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I had a similar nightmare with EDD when my father was ill. After weeks of trying to get through on the phone with no success, I discovered Claimyr (claimyr.com) and it saved me so much frustration. It got me connected to an actual EDD representative within 25 minutes when I'd been trying for days. The agent was able to tell me exactly what was happening with my PFL caregiving appeal and what additional documentation they needed. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/DOLxZQb92wM?si=6N1iCQ3a8Cdb2Ay5 For PFL caregiving appeals specifically, you need to talk to a specialist. Regular EDD reps often can't see the details of these claims, which is why getting through to the right person is so important.

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Yuki Sato

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Thank you for the suggestion! At this point I'm willing to try anything. Does Claimyr work specifically for the PFL department? I need to talk to someone who can actually see my appeal status.

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QuantumQuasar

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Yes, it connects you to the same EDD phone system but bypasses the long queue. Just make sure to tell the automated system you need the PFL department specifically for caregiving benefits, not regular unemployment or disability. Once you're connected, immediately ask for a PFL appeal specialist.

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this is so typical of edd!!!! they act like caregiving claims dont matter as much as baby bonding. my sister waited TWO MONTHS after appeal with zero communication. she finally got approved and back pay but seriously the stress was unreal. the absolute worst part is no online status updates for PFL caregiving claims. its like were still in 1995 or something

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OMG TWO MONTHS????? I can't wait that long! Did she do anything special to finally get it approved?

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she had her state rep's office call edd on her behalf!!! suddenly magically her appeal was "found" and processed within 48 hrs after 2 months of silence. might be worth trying if u keep hitting walls

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Carmen Ruiz

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Just checking back - any updates on your situation? Were you able to get through to anyone at EDD about your appeal?

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Yuki Sato

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Actually yes! After reading everyone's suggestions, I used Claimyr to get through to EDD yesterday. I was connected to a representative in about 20 minutes. She confirmed they received my appeal documentation but said it hadn't been assigned to a reviewer yet. She put a note on my file to expedite it since it's been over two weeks. I also learned that out-of-state doctor verification is a common issue with caregiving claims, but the hospice documentation should be sufficient. I'll update when I hear anything definitive.

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Carmen Ruiz

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That's good progress! The note to expedite should help. Keep us posted - and make sure to call back in a week if you still haven't received any communication. Sometimes those notes magically "disappear" from the system.

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Liam McGuire

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if their reviewing three drs notes and still giving u a hard time thats crazy. I only need to submit one form for my twins bonding time and got approved right away. maybe cuz bonding is more common than caregiving? either way edd is flakey and inconsistent. good luck!

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Yuki Sato

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Yeah, from what I'm gathering in this thread, it seems like baby bonding claims get processed much faster and more efficiently than caregiving claims. Really frustrating when you're dealing with the loss of a parent and financial stress at the same time.

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Just wanted to add a quick update to this thread for anyone finding it later - the EDD has actually updated their policies regarding out-of-state medical providers for PFL caregiving claims as of March 2025. They're supposed to have a more streamlined verification process now, but it's clearly not working well yet. For caregiving claims with out-of-state providers, make sure you submit: 1. The regular DE-2501F form completed by the out-of-state doctor 2. A copy of the doctor's state medical license 3. The medical facility's contact information including the main phone number (not just the doctor's direct line) This helps EDD verify credentials more quickly. And remember that hospice documentation is considered priority evidence for PFL caregiving claims.

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Yuki Sato

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This is really helpful information! I didn't include a copy of the doctor's actual license, just filled out the form. That could be part of the delay. If they need additional documentation, I hope they actually tell me instead of just denying the claim again.

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I'm so sorry for your loss and the additional stress EDD is putting you through during this difficult time. Reading through this thread, it's clear that the lack of transparency in PFL caregiving appeals is a widespread issue that needs to be addressed. I went through something similar when my grandmother was in her final days in Arizona. The complete information blackout from EDD during the appeal process is absolutely maddening, especially when you're already dealing with grief and financial pressure from taking unpaid leave. Based on what others have shared here, it sounds like you're on the right track with having multiple medical sources documented. The hospice documentation should carry significant weight in your appeal. I'd definitely recommend following up on the suggestion to include a copy of the doctor's medical license if you haven't already - that seems to help speed up their verification process. One thing that helped me was keeping a detailed log of every call I made to EDD, including dates, times, and what each representative told me. This became crucial when I finally got through to someone who could actually help, as I could reference specific previous conversations and show the timeline of my attempts to get information. Hang in there - from what I'm reading, most of these out-of-state provider appeals do eventually get approved, it just takes way longer than it should. The system is clearly broken when it comes to caregiving claims compared to bonding claims.

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