EDD denied baby bonding PFL claiming full wages - appeal filed but need urgent help
My nightmare with EDD continues! My wife recently gave birth to our daughter (3 weeks ago) and applied for baby bonding PFL. Yesterday we got a denial letter saying she received "full wages from employer" during her leave period. This is completely wrong! She only received PARTIAL sick leave pay (about 40% of her normal wages) while on leave. We immediately filed a written appeal with documentation showing the reduced sick pay amounts vs her normal salary, but I'm freaking out about how long this might take. We were counting on this PFL money for our monthly budget. Has anyone dealt with appealing a wrongful denial? Is there ANY way to expedite the appeal or get someone to actually look at our case? I've called the 877-238-4373 number literally 30+ times and either get disconnected or am on hold forever. Are there any other direct numbers to reach an actual human who can help? We're desperate and running out of options. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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QuantumQuasar
I went through almost the exact same situation last fall. EDD commonly misclassifies sick pay as regular wages and issues these incorrect denials. The appeal process typically takes 3-4 weeks IF you've submitted clear documentation. Make sure you included: 1. A letter from your wife's employer specifically stating she received SICK PAY, not regular wages 2. Pay stubs showing the difference between her normal pay and the reduced sick pay 3. Your wife's work schedule showing she was not actually working during this time As for reaching someone by phone, the main number is basically useless. Try calling the Appeals Division directly at 1-800-300-5616. They sometimes answer more reliably, but it's still a challenge.
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Andre Dupont
•Thank you so much for this detailed response! We included pay stubs showing the difference but didn't get a specific letter from HR stating it was sick pay. I'll have my wife request that letter today. I'll try that appeals number right now. Did your appeal eventually get approved? How long did your family have to wait for the payment after winning the appeal?
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Zoe Papanikolaou
the same thing happened to my sister!! she had to wait 7 weeks for her appeal and they never even called her!!! the system is completely broken and nobody cares about new parents. good luck getting thru to anyone
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Andre Dupont
•7 WEEKS?? Oh god, we can't wait that long. Did she get backpay for the entire period once they finally approved it?
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Jamal Wilson
This is unfortunately a common issue with EDD PFL claims involving sick pay. They have an automated system that often flags any employer payments as "wages" even when they're clearly sick leave or PTO. During your appeal, make sure you specifically cite California Code of Regulations, Title 22, Section 3302(s)-1 which clearly states that sick leave pay is NOT considered wages for PFL purposes. Include this exact regulation citation in all your documentation. As for expediting your case - technically appeals are processed in the order received. However, if you can demonstrate financial hardship (risk of eviction, inability to pay for necessities, etc.), you can include a hardship request with your appeal. For getting through to a representative, I'd suggest trying Claimyr (claimyr.com). It's a service that helps you connect with EDD representatives without the endless waiting. They have a demo video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/DOLxZQb92wM?si=6N1iCQ3a8Cdb2Ay5. I used it when I had issues with my transition from SDI to PFL, and they got me connected to an agent in about 25 minutes instead of trying for days.
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Andre Dupont
•Thank you for that specific regulation citation! I'm adding that to our appeal documentation right away. We'll definitely include a hardship request as well - we're actually behind on rent this month because we were counting on this money. Never heard of Claimyr before but I'm checking out that video right now. At this point I'd try anything to get through to a real person who can help.
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Mei Lin
Just wanted to point out that you NEED to keep calling persistently. My PFL claim was initially denied for a similar reason, and I spent 3 days straight calling that 877 number. Best times to call are right when they open at 8:00 AM or around 11:30 AM when the lunch shifts change. I eventually got someone who fixed my claim on the spot when I finally got through! Don't give up!!! The system is DESIGNED to be frustrating so people will give up on their RIGHTFUL benefits!!!
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Liam Fitzgerald
•this isnt accurate advice actually. i work in HR and we deal with this all the time. the claims reps on the phone CANNOT override a denial once it's issued. only the appeals department can reverse the decision. the phone reps can only document that you called. please don't give people false hope about getting it "fixed on the spot" - that's extremely rare and only happens if there was a simple data entry error.
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Amara Nnamani
Similar thing happened to me back in January. My company paid me 60% disability during my maternity leave and EDD claimed I was getting full pay. I couldn't get through on the phone either, but I did discover you can contact them through SDI Online by using the Contact EDD button. I sent a detailed message explaining the situation with documentation and surprisingly got a response within 3 days. They corrected my claim without requiring a formal appeal. But I'll be honest - the online message probably only worked because my claim was still relatively new and hadn't gone through the full denial process yet. Since you've already received a formal denial, the appeal is probably your only option. Make sure ALL your documentation is crystal clear and easy to understand. My claim specialist told me they're drowning in appeals and claims with clear documentation get processed much faster. Btw, I used Claimyr twice when I absolutely needed to speak to someone. It cost money but worked both times when I was desperate. Way better than calling for days with no response.
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Andre Dupont
•Thanks for sharing your experience. We tried the Contact EDD button yesterday but haven't heard back yet. I'll make sure our appeal documentation is super clear and organized. I just purchased Claimyr - hoping I can get through to someone today.
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Giovanni Mancini
the same exact thing happened to me!! my company gave me partial pay (they call it supplemental pay) during maternity leave and EDD rejected my claim for "receiving wages". i had to file an appeal and wait almost two months before they fixed it. its absolutely ridiculous that new parents have to deal with this stress on top of having a newborn!! btw did your wife file for SDI for the pregnancy recovery period before applying for PFL? if she was approved for SDI with the same payment situation that might help your case since the same wage rules apply to both
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Andre Dupont
•Yes! She was approved for SDI with no issues even though she had the same partial sick pay during that time. That's a great point - I'll make sure to mention that in our appeal documentation. It makes no sense they'd approve SDI but deny PFL with the same exact pay situation.
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NebulaNinja
Just call early! My husban call at 8am got EDD rep in 20 minits. They helping fixing claim no need appeal. Try calling early morning!!
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Liam Fitzgerald
•While this occasionally works, the PFL phone lines have been overwhelmed lately. Even calling at 8am, most people are experiencing 2+ hour wait times or getting disconnected. It's worth trying, but don't be discouraged if it doesn't work - it's not just you, the system is overwhelmed.
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QuantumQuasar
Coming back to update - to directly address your expediting question: Yes, you CAN request that an appeal be expedited, but you need to demonstrate genuine financial hardship. Include documentation showing: 1. Your current bills that are due/overdue 2. Bank statements showing low funds 3. Any notices regarding rent/mortgage/utilities 4. A clear explanation of why this situation constitutes an emergency Submit this as an "Expedited Appeal Request" along with your regular appeal. In my experience, this can potentially cut the wait time in half. While a regular appeal might take 6-8 weeks currently (2025 timeframes are much longer than they were in 2023), an expedited appeal might be resolved in 3-4 weeks. Also, don't just rely on the appeal - continue trying multiple contact methods simultaneously. The squeaky wheel often gets the grease in these situations.
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Andre Dupont
•This is incredibly helpful! I'll gather all that documentation today and submit an expedited request. We're definitely in a financial emergency situation - our rent is already late and we have daycare payments coming up that we can't miss. Thank you so much for this advice.
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Angelica Smith
I'm so sorry you're going through this stress with a newborn! I just went through a similar situation last month. EDD wrongly denied my PFL claim saying I received "full wages" when I was only getting 50% pay through my company's short-term disability. Here's what worked for me: I contacted my state assembly member's office and explained the situation. They have caseworkers who specifically handle EDD issues and can sometimes get faster responses. My assembly member's office submitted an inquiry on my behalf and I heard back from EDD within 10 days instead of waiting months for the appeal. You can find your assembly member here: https://findyourrep.legislature.ca.gov/ Also, when you resubmit documentation, make sure to include a cover letter that explicitly states "This is NOT regular wages - this is sick leave/disability pay which is exempt from PFL wage calculations per CCR Title 22 Section 3302(s)-1." Sometimes being very direct helps cut through their automated systems. Don't give up - you're entitled to these benefits and EDD's initial determination is clearly wrong. The stress is awful but most of these cases do get resolved in the parent's favor once a human actually reviews the documentation.
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Santiago Martinez
•Thank you so much for this suggestion! I never thought about contacting my assembly member's office - that's brilliant. I'm going to reach out to them today along with submitting our expedited appeal request. I really appreciate you sharing that specific language about the sick leave exemption. I'll make sure to include that exact wording in our cover letter to make it crystal clear to whoever reviews our case. It's so frustrating that we have to jump through all these hoops when we're already dealing with the stress of a new baby, but hearing success stories like yours gives me hope. Thank you for taking the time to help!
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Cameron Black
I'm really sorry you're dealing with this nightmare, especially with a 3-week-old baby! This exact situation happened to my coworker about 6 months ago and it's infuriating how common these incorrect denials are. One thing that helped her case was getting her employer to submit a letter directly to EDD (not just to her) stating that the payments were specifically "sick leave benefits" and NOT regular wages. Sometimes having the employer send it directly to EDD carries more weight than just including it in your appeal packet. Also, if you haven't already, make sure your appeal includes the exact dates your wife was out on leave and the corresponding pay periods showing the reduced amounts. EDD's system sometimes gets confused when the leave dates don't perfectly align with pay periods. I know everyone's mentioned calling, but one trick my coworker used was calling the Spanish language line (1-877-379-3819) and asking to be transferred to an English-speaking representative. Sometimes those lines have shorter wait times. Worth a shot if you're desperate to reach someone! Hang in there - these wrongful denials almost always get overturned once a real person reviews the documentation. Your family deserves these benefits and you WILL get through this!
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Amara Okafor
•This is such a helpful tip about having the employer send a letter directly to EDD! I never thought about that approach. I'll ask my wife's HR department to do that first thing Monday morning. The Spanish line trick is also genius - I'm going to try that today if I can't get through on the main number. At this point I'm willing to try anything to reach a human being who can actually help us. Thank you for the encouragement too. It's been such a stressful few weeks between adjusting to life with our newborn and now this financial uncertainty on top of it. Stories like your coworker's give me hope that we'll eventually get this resolved.
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Lola Perez
I'm so sorry you're dealing with this incredibly stressful situation with a newborn! This exact same thing happened to me 8 months ago - EDD denied my PFL claim saying I received "full wages" when I was actually only getting partial disability pay from my employer. Here's what ultimately worked for me: I submitted my appeal with a very detailed timeline showing exactly what I was paid versus what my normal wages would have been. I created a simple spreadsheet with columns for "Date", "Normal Daily Wage", "Actual Payment Received", and "Difference". This visual breakdown seemed to help whoever reviewed my case understand immediately that I was NOT receiving full wages. Also, don't overlook contacting your local EDD office directly if there's one near you. While most appointments are limited, sometimes they can provide guidance or even escalate your case internally. The online appointment system is usually booked weeks out, but they sometimes have same-day cancellations. One more tip - document EVERYTHING. Keep screenshots of every online interaction, save confirmation numbers from any phone calls (even if you get disconnected), and send all documents via certified mail with tracking. This paper trail can be crucial if your case gets escalated further. Your appeal WILL get approved - these wrongful denials happen constantly and almost always get overturned once a human actually reviews the documentation. Stay strong!
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Vincent Bimbach
•Thank you so much for sharing your experience and that spreadsheet idea! That's exactly the kind of clear, visual documentation that seems to cut through EDD's confusion. I'm going to create that same type of breakdown today showing the difference between my wife's normal wages and the partial sick pay she actually received. I didn't know about contacting local EDD offices directly - I'll look up if there's one near us and see if I can get an appointment or at least speak with someone in person. Sometimes face-to-face interactions can be more effective than these endless phone calls. Your advice about documenting everything is spot on. I've already started keeping a log of all our attempts to reach them, but I'll make sure to get tracking numbers for any physical mail we send too. It's so reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation and came out the other side successfully. We're definitely not giving up - our daughter deserves to have her parents receive the benefits we're entitled to!
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Zainab Ahmed
I'm dealing with a similar situation right now! EDD denied my PFL claim last week claiming I received "full wages" when I was actually only getting 60% pay through my employer's temporary disability insurance. It's so frustrating because their automated system seems to flag ANY payment from an employer as "wages" without distinguishing between actual wages and benefits like sick pay or disability. One thing I learned from my HR department is that EDD often misinterprets how employers report these payments on their quarterly forms. When companies submit their DE-9 and DE-9C forms, sometimes the disability payments get coded incorrectly, which triggers these false denials. I'm filing my appeal this week and planning to include a letter from our benefits administrator explaining exactly what type of payments I received and referencing the specific insurance policy. I'm also going to request that my employer re-submit their quarterly reporting with corrected codes if needed. Have you checked with your wife's HR to see how they reported her sick leave payments to EDD? Sometimes the issue starts there and getting the employer to correct their reporting can actually resolve things faster than waiting for an appeal. Sending you strength during this incredibly stressful time - new parent life is hard enough without EDD making it worse!
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Olivia Harris
•This is such valuable insight about the employer reporting issue! I hadn't even thought about checking how my wife's company reported her sick leave payments on their quarterly forms. That could definitely be the root cause of this whole mess. I'm going to contact her HR department tomorrow to ask specifically about how they coded her sick leave payments on the DE-9 forms. If they reported it incorrectly, getting them to re-submit with the right codes could save us weeks of waiting for the appeal process. It's so frustrating that we're all dealing with the same systemic issue - EDD's automated system clearly can't distinguish between actual wages and legitimate benefit payments. You'd think they would have fixed this by now given how common these wrongful denials seem to be. Thank you for sharing this tip and I hope your appeal gets resolved quickly too! This whole situation is exhausting when you're already sleep-deprived with a newborn.
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Astrid Bergström
I'm so sorry you're going through this nightmare with a newborn! Unfortunately, this is an incredibly common issue with EDD's automated system flagging any employer payments as "wages" even when they're clearly sick leave or disability benefits. A few things that might help speed up your case: 1. **Contact your Assembly member's office** - They have EDD liaisons who can sometimes get responses in 1-2 weeks instead of months. Find yours at findyourrep.legislature.ca.gov 2. **Check your wife's employer reporting** - Ask HR how they coded her sick leave payments on their DE-9 quarterly forms to EDD. Sometimes the issue starts with incorrect employer reporting codes. 3. **Submit an expedited hardship request** with your appeal - Include documentation of overdue bills, low bank balances, and rent/utility notices to potentially cut wait time in half. 4. **Try the 1-800-300-5616 appeals line** - Sometimes has better connection rates than the main number. The good news is that these wrongful denials almost always get overturned once a human reviews the documentation. Make sure your appeal includes pay stubs, employer letter stating it was SICK PAY (not wages), and cite California Code of Regulations Title 22 Section 3302(s)-1. You've got this - don't let EDD's broken system defeat you!
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