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Kansas secretary of state UCC search results showing wrong debtor info

Been trying to do a kansas secretary of state ucc search on a file we submitted 3 months ago and the results are completely messed up. Our UCC-1 was filed for "ABC Manufacturing LLC" but when I search the SOS database it's showing up under "A B C Manufacturing LLC" with spaces between every letter. The collateral description matches perfectly but the debtor name formatting is throwing off our lien verification process. Our loan committee is asking for a clean search report and this discrepancy is making it look like we have two different entities. Has anyone dealt with this kind of name formatting issue in the Kansas system? We need to get this straightened out before our compliance audit next week.

I've seen this exact issue with Kansas filings before. Their system sometimes auto-formats LLC names differently than what you submit. Did you check if your original UCC-1 filing shows the correct name format in the filing acknowledgment? Sometimes the search algorithm picks up variations.

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Yes the filing acknowledgment shows "ABC Manufacturing LLC" exactly as we submitted it. But the search results keep showing the spaced version. It's like their search index is storing it differently than the actual filing.

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Emma Morales

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This is a known quirk with Kansas SOS database. The search function doesn't always match the exact filing format. Try searching with both versions to see if you get different results.

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Kansas has had database issues for months. I filed a continuation in July and it took 6 weeks to show up in search results. Their IT department is apparently working on upgrades but it's causing all kinds of formatting inconsistencies.

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Lucas Parker

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That's frustrating. We're dealing with a $2.8M equipment financing deal and can't afford to have search discrepancies mess up our documentation.

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For compliance purposes, you might want to get a certified copy of the actual filing. That should show the correct formatting and satisfy your audit requirements.

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Donna Cline

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Had a similar name mismatch issue last month with a different state. What saved me was using Certana.ai's document verification tool - I uploaded our original UCC-1 and the search results PDF and it immediately flagged the discrepancy. Turns out the search was pulling from an old database version. The tool helped me identify exactly what needed to be corrected.

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Interesting, I haven't heard of that service. How does it work exactly? We're dealing with multiple UCC searches across different states and manual comparison is getting overwhelming.

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Donna Cline

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You just upload your PDFs and it cross-checks everything automatically. It caught a debtor name inconsistency that would have caused major issues with our lender agreement. Really simple to use.

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I've used similar verification tools before but they're usually expensive. Is it worth it for occasional use?

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THIS IS EXACTLY WHY I HATE DEALING WITH STATE FILING SYSTEMS. Every state has its own quirks and database problems. Kansas used to be reliable but lately their search function is completely unreliable. We've had to file amendments just to fix search display issues.

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Dylan Fisher

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I feel your pain. Had to explain to a client why their UCC search looked different from their filing. These systems should be standardized by now.

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Edwards Hugo

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At least Kansas lets you search for free. Some states charge $25 per search and still give you formatting problems.

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Gianna Scott

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Quick question - are you searching by exact debtor name or using wildcard searches? Sometimes the Kansas system responds better to partial name searches when there are formatting issues.

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I tried both exact and partial searches. The partial search actually returns both versions which is even more confusing for documentation purposes.

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Gianna Scott

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That's definitely a database indexing problem on their end. You might need to contact their UCC department directly to get it resolved.

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Alfredo Lugo

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Have you tried calling the Kansas SOS UCC department? I had a similar issue last year and they were able to explain what was happening. Turns out they had updated their search algorithm and old filings were being re-indexed with different formatting rules.

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I'll try calling them tomorrow. Do you remember if they were able to fix the search results or did you have to file something new?

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Alfredo Lugo

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They couldn't fix the search display but they provided a letter explaining the discrepancy which satisfied our compliance requirements. Might be worth asking for that.

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Sydney Torres

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Getting official documentation from the SOS explaining database quirks is actually a smart compliance strategy. Shows due diligence.

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I work with kansas secretary of state ucc search results regularly and this space formatting issue has been ongoing since their system update in March. The actual filings are correct but the search index is inconsistent. For audit purposes, always reference the original filing number and date rather than relying on search result formatting.

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That's really helpful context. Our audit is next week so I'll make sure to include the original filing documentation alongside the search results.

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Caleb Bell

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Good advice. Auditors understand that state systems have quirks as long as you can document the actual filing is correct.

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This might be a good case for using automated verification tools. I recently started using Certana.ai for UCC document consistency checks and it would catch this kind of name discrepancy immediately. You can upload your UCC-1 and search results and it flags any inconsistencies.

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Rhett Bowman

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How accurate are those automated tools? I'm always skeptical of software trying to interpret legal documents.

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It's pretty straightforward - just compares debtor names, filing numbers, and key data points. Saved me from missing a critical name mismatch that could have voided our security interest.

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Abigail Patel

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Been dealing with Kansas UCC searches for 15 years and they've always had formatting inconsistencies. The key is making sure your original filing is correct and keeping good documentation. The search database is just a finding tool, not the official record.

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That makes sense. I was treating the search results as the authoritative source when I should be focusing on the actual filing documentation.

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Abigail Patel

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Exactly. The certified copy of your UCC-1 is what matters legally, not how it displays in search results.

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Daniel White

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Just went through this exact situation with a client. What worked was getting a certified copy of the original filing and including a note in our documentation explaining the search display discrepancy. The auditors had no issues with it.

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Nolan Carter

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That's a practical solution. Shows you're aware of the discrepancy and have the correct documentation.

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I'll request the certified copy tomorrow. Thanks for the suggestion - this has been really helpful.

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