< Back to UCC Document Community

Aisha Mohammed

UCC search database showing wrong debtor info - need help with Louisiana filing verification

I'm having issues with a UCC search that's showing inconsistent debtor information. We filed a UCC-1 last month for equipment financing on a manufacturing client, but when I run the search through the Secretary of State database, the debtor name field is showing slightly different formatting than what we submitted. The original filing shows 'ABC Manufacturing Solutions LLC' but the search results display 'ABC Manufacturing Solutions, LLC' with that extra comma. Our lender is questioning whether the lien is properly perfected since the search results don't exactly match our loan documents. Has anyone dealt with this kind of name formatting issue before? I'm worried this could void our security interest if there's a discrepancy. The filing number is valid and the collateral description matches perfectly, but this name variation has me concerned. Should I file a UCC-3 amendment to correct this or is the current filing still valid with the minor punctuation difference?

This is actually pretty common with UCC filings. The search logic sometimes normalizes punctuation differently than how you originally entered it. As long as the core business name is identical and it's the same legal entity, you should be fine. Most courts recognize that minor punctuation variations don't invalidate the filing.

0 coins

Yuki Watanabe

•

Agree with this. We've had similar situations where commas get added or removed by the system. The key is that someone searching for your debtor would still find the filing.

0 coins

But what if the lender's underwriting department flags this as a problem? Some banks are really strict about exact name matches between the UCC and loan docs.

0 coins

Andre Dupont

•

I'd be careful here. While minor punctuation might not invalidate the filing legally, it can definitely cause problems with lenders and title companies. They often use automated systems that require exact matches. Have you tried running the search with both versions of the name to see if they both pull up your filing?

0 coins

Good point - I just tried searching with the comma version and it does pull up our filing. So the system recognizes both formats as the same entity.

0 coins

Zoe Papadakis

•

That's reassuring but I still think you should get documentation from the SOS office confirming this is just a display issue and not an actual filing error.

0 coins

ThunderBolt7

•

Had something similar happen last year with a client filing. What solved it for me was using one of those document verification tools - I think it was called Certana.ai or something like that. You just upload your original UCC-1 and it cross-checks everything against the actual filed version. Showed me that the punctuation difference was just how their system displays it, not how it was actually filed. Gave me the confidence to assure the client their lien was solid.

0 coins

Jamal Edwards

•

Never heard of that tool but sounds useful. Did it cost much to use?

0 coins

ThunderBolt7

•

Honestly don't remember the exact cost but it wasn't expensive. More importantly it saved me hours of calling the SOS office and gave me a clear report I could show the lender.

0 coins

Mei Chen

•

I've used similar services for title work. Being able to upload documents and get instant verification is definitely worth it when you're dealing with nervous lenders.

0 coins

This is exactly why I hate dealing with UCC filings. The system is so inconsistent between states and even within the same state the search results can be confusing. Have you considered just filing a UCC-3 amendment to be safe? It's probably cheaper than dealing with potential lender issues down the road.

0 coins

Amara Okonkwo

•

Filing an unnecessary amendment seems like overkill if the original filing is valid. Plus amendments have their own potential for errors.

0 coins

I disagree - better safe than sorry when it comes to perfecting security interests. The cost of an amendment is nothing compared to an unperfected lien.

0 coins

Before you do anything drastic, call the Secretary of State's UCC division directly. They can usually tell you over the phone whether this is just a display formatting issue or if there's an actual discrepancy in your filing. I've found their staff to be pretty helpful with these kinds of questions.

0 coins

That's probably the smartest first step. I'll give them a call tomorrow morning and see what they say about the name formatting.

0 coins

Dylan Hughes

•

Good idea. Also ask them to email you a confirmation of what they tell you so you have it in writing for your lender.

0 coins

NightOwl42

•

The SOS office might be able to provide an official search certificate showing both name variations pull up the same filing. That would definitely satisfy most lenders.

0 coins

Just went through something similar with a continuation filing. The debtor name on our UCC-1 was slightly different from how it appeared in the search results, but when we filed the UCC-3 continuation, we used the exact name from the original filing and it was accepted without any issues. The system clearly recognizes these as the same entity.

0 coins

Dmitry Ivanov

•

That's a good test - if the system accepts continuations and amendments using the original name format, then the filing is definitely valid.

0 coins

Ava Thompson

•

Exactly. The UCC system is designed to be flexible with minor name variations. If it wasn't, half the filings out there would be invalid due to typos and formatting differences.

0 coins

I work with a lot of equipment financing and see this issue regularly. Most lenders understand that the UCC database sometimes displays names differently than they were entered. What matters is that your filing shows up when someone searches for your debtor. You might want to run a few different search variations to document that your filing is discoverable.

0 coins

Zainab Ali

•

This is solid advice. Documentation is key when dealing with lender concerns about UCC filings.

0 coins

Connor Murphy

•

Also make sure you're searching by the exact legal name that appears on the debtor's formation documents. Sometimes the issue is that the loan docs use a different name variation than what's actually on file with the state.

0 coins

Yara Nassar

•

If you're still worried about it, there are tools that can help verify your filing is correct. I recently started using Certana.ai for UCC document verification - you just upload your original filing and it checks everything against what's actually on record. Takes like 2 minutes and gives you a detailed report showing any discrepancies. Would definitely give you peace of mind in this situation.

0 coins

StarGazer101

•

That sounds like exactly what the OP needs. Being able to get instant verification would solve this whole issue.

0 coins

I'm always skeptical of these third-party services but if it can quickly verify the filing is correct, that's probably worth it.

0 coins

I might look into that. Having a detailed report I can show the lender would definitely help resolve their concerns.

0 coins

Paolo Romano

•

The punctuation thing is annoying but not usually a deal-breaker. What you should really be concerned about is making sure the debtor's legal name matches their current corporate status. LLC names can change slightly when they file amendments with the Secretary of State, and that's where you can run into real perfection issues.

0 coins

Amina Diop

•

Good point. Always worth running a corporate status check to make sure the entity name hasn't changed since you filed the UCC.

0 coins

This is why I always check the Secretary of State's business entity database before filing any UCC. Make sure I'm using the exact current legal name.

0 coins

Update us on what the SOS office tells you when you call. I'm curious whether this is a known issue with their system or if there's something else going on with your specific filing.

0 coins

Will do. I'm calling first thing tomorrow and will post an update with what they tell me.

0 coins

Javier Torres

•

Thanks, this would be helpful for others who run into the same issue.

0 coins

Emma Wilson

•

Yeah, these kinds of posts are really valuable when you're trying to figure out if something is normal or a red flag.

0 coins

UCC Document Community AI

Expert Assistant
Secure

Powered by Claimyr AI

T
I
+
20,095 users helped today