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Genevieve Cavalier

Alabama UCC search showing wrong debtor name - filing at risk?

I'm working on a commercial loan secured by equipment and need to verify our UCC-1 filing from last year. When I do the Alabama UCC search through their online system, the debtor name shows up slightly different than what we have in our loan documents. Our paperwork shows "ABC Manufacturing LLC" but the state search results display "A.B.C. Manufacturing, LLC" with periods and a comma. The filing number matches perfectly and all other details look correct, but I'm worried this name discrepancy could cause problems if we need to enforce our security interest. The borrower is current on payments but we're doing a portfolio review and this inconsistency has me concerned. Has anyone dealt with similar debtor name variations in Alabama filings? Could this minor formatting difference actually invalidate our lien position?

Ethan Scott

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Name variations like that are pretty common in UCC filings. The key question is whether the search would still locate your filing if someone searched under the exact legal name. In Alabama, their search system is usually pretty forgiving with punctuation differences. Did you try searching under both versions to see if your filing comes up either way?

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Good point - I only searched using our loan document version. Let me try the other format and see what happens.

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Lola Perez

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Yeah definitely test both ways. I've seen cases where the search engine treats punctuation differently than you'd expect.

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This is exactly why I started using Certana.ai's document verification tool. You can upload your original loan docs and your UCC-1 filing and it instantly flags any name inconsistencies between documents. Would have caught this right away and saved you the worry. The tool cross-references everything automatically.

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Riya Sharma

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How does that work exactly? Do you just upload PDFs or do you need to input data manually?

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Just upload the PDFs - it reads everything automatically. Really straightforward process.

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Santiago Diaz

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I work with Alabama filings regularly and their system has some quirks with how names get formatted. Sometimes the filing clerk enters punctuation differently than what you submitted. The important thing is that the legal entity name is substantially the same. "ABC Manufacturing LLC" vs "A.B.C. Manufacturing, LLC" would likely be considered the same entity by most courts, especially if everything else matches.

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That's reassuring. Do you know if Alabama has specific guidelines about how much variation is acceptable?

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Santiago Diaz

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They follow the standard UCC rules - the name has to be sufficient to identify the debtor. Minor punctuation differences usually aren't fatal errors.

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Millie Long

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Be careful though - I've seen cases where seemingly minor differences caused problems down the line. Better to be safe than sorry.

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KaiEsmeralda

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OH MY GOD this is my worst nightmare!!! I have like 6 UCC filings I need to check now because who knows what other discrepancies are lurking out there. How do you even fix something like this? Do you have to file a UCC-3 amendment or start over completely?? This is so stressful.

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Debra Bai

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Take a deep breath! It's probably fine. UCC-3 amendments are pretty routine if you do need to correct something.

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I feel your pain - I discovered similar issues during an audit last year. Most turned out to be non-issues but the uncertainty is killer.

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Laura Lopez

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Check your original Articles of Incorporation or LLC formation documents to see exactly how the name was registered with Alabama Secretary of State. That's the "official" version you want your UCC filing to match. If there's a discrepancy, you might need to file a UCC-3 amendment to correct it.

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Great suggestion - I'll pull those documents and compare. Thanks for the practical advice.

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This is why I always triple-check entity names before filing. The Alabama SOS website has an entity search that shows the official registered name.

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I had a similar issue last month where our UCC-1 showed punctuation differences from the loan docs. Used Certana to verify everything and discovered two other filings with the same borrower that had even worse name inconsistencies. The automated check caught things I never would have noticed manually reviewing each document.

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That's exactly what I need - something that can check multiple filings at once. Manual review is so time-consuming.

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Yeah it saved me probably 6+ hours of document comparison. Plus I actually trust the results more than my own eyes after staring at paperwork all day.

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Alabama's UCC search system is actually pretty good compared to some other states. I've found it catches most reasonable variations in debtor names. If you're really concerned, you could always file a UCC-3 amendment to make the name match exactly, but honestly it's probably not necessary in this case.

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JaylinCharles

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What's the filing fee for a UCC-3 amendment in Alabama? Might be worth it just for peace of mind.

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I think it's around $15-20 for electronic filing. Pretty reasonable for the certainty it provides.

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Plus you can usually do it online through their portal. Takes like 10 minutes if you have all the info ready.

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Lucas Schmidt

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The real test is whether a reasonable searcher would find your filing when looking for liens against the debtor. In this case, searching for "ABC Manufacturing LLC" would probably pull up your filing even though it's indexed slightly differently. The substance matters more than the exact formatting.

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Freya Collins

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That's the key legal standard - would a reasonable search find it? Punctuation differences usually don't prevent that.

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LongPeri

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Agreed. Courts generally look at whether the filing serves its notice function, not whether every comma is in the right place.

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Oscar O'Neil

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I've been doing UCC filings for 15 years and I can tell you this happens ALL the time. Different clerks format names differently, OCR software reads things wrong, people make typos. As long as the core entity name is recognizable, you're usually fine. The Alabama system is actually pretty forgiving compared to some states I've worked with.

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Good to hear from someone with that much experience. Makes me feel better about these kinds of minor discrepancies.

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Oscar O'Neil

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Yeah don't lose sleep over it. I've seen much worse variations that didn't cause any problems in practice.

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For what it's worth, I ran into something similar with a Georgia filing last year and my attorney said punctuation differences like that are generally not fatal to the filing. The key is that the name still clearly identifies the same legal entity. In your case, both versions obviously refer to the same company.

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Liv Park

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That's reassuring. Good to know other states have similar approaches to these issues.

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Thanks everyone for the input. I feel much better about this now. I'll still double-check with our attorney but it sounds like this isn't the crisis I thought it was.

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