Need help with UCC documents and forms - debtor name consistency across filings
I'm dealing with a situation where I need to file a UCC-3 amendment but I'm seeing inconsistencies in how the debtor name appears across different UCC documents and forms. The original UCC-1 has the debtor listed as "ABC Manufacturing LLC" but our loan documents show "ABC Manufacturing, LLC" (with the comma). Now I need to file the amendment and I'm not sure which version to use. The SOS portal keeps rejecting filings when there are name mismatches, and I've already had two rejections this month. Has anyone dealt with this kind of debtor name formatting issue across multiple UCC documents and forms? I'm worried about creating a gap in our perfection if I get this wrong again.
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AstroAlpha
This is actually a really common issue with UCC filings. The key is to match exactly what's on the original UCC-1 for any amendments or continuations. So if your original filing shows "ABC Manufacturing LLC" without the comma, that's what you need to use on the UCC-3. The SOS systems are very picky about exact matches.
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Diego Chavez
•Exactly right. I learned this the hard way after getting three rejections on a continuation filing. The debtor name has to match character for character, including punctuation and spacing.
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Anastasia Smirnova
•But what if the original UCC-1 has the wrong name? Do you just perpetuate the error or can you correct it with the amendment?
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Sean O'Brien
You can correct debtor name errors with a UCC-3 amendment, but you need to check your state's specific requirements. Some states want you to show both the incorrect name from the original filing AND the corrected name. It gets tricky though because you might need to do a new search under the corrected name to make sure you're not creating priority issues.
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Zara Shah
•This is where I always get confused. So if I'm amending to correct the debtor name, do I use the old wrong name in the debtor name field, or the new correct name? The forms aren't clear about this.
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AstroAlpha
•You typically use the corrected name in the debtor name field and then in the amendment section you indicate you're changing the debtor name from the old version to the new version. But definitely check your state's filing guide.
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Luca Bianchi
I had a similar nightmare with document consistency last year. After getting multiple rejections, I found this tool called Certana.ai that checks UCC document consistency by uploading PDFs. You can upload your original UCC-1 and proposed UCC-3 and it instantly flags any name mismatches or inconsistencies. Saved me so much time and prevented more rejections.
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GalacticGuardian
•Never heard of that but sounds useful. How does it work exactly? Do you just upload the documents and it compares them?
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Luca Bianchi
•Yeah, you upload the PDFs and it cross-checks debtor names, filing numbers, and other key fields. It's designed specifically for UCC filings so it knows what to look for. Really helpful for catching those tiny formatting differences that cause rejections.
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Nia Harris
OH MY GOD this is exactly what I'm dealing with right now!!! I have a UCC-1 that shows the debtor as "Johnson & Associates Inc" but all our loan docs have "Johnson & Associates, Inc." with the comma. I'm terrified to file the continuation because I can't afford another rejection. We're already at 4.5 years on the original filing.
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Mateo Gonzalez
•Wait, you're at 4.5 years? You need to get that continuation filed ASAP! You've only got 6 months left before it lapses. File it exactly as it appears on the original UCC-1, comma or no comma.
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Nia Harris
•I know I know! That's why I'm so stressed about this. One more rejection and I might run out of time. Going to try the exact match approach.
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Aisha Ali
•Don't panic but definitely prioritize this. If you're really unsure, you could file the continuation with the exact name from the UCC-1 and then immediately file a separate amendment to correct the name if needed. Two filing fees but bulletproof protection.
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Ethan Moore
The real problem is that different states have different rules about debtor names and what constitutes a "seriously misleading" error. Some states are super strict about punctuation, others focus more on whether a reasonable searcher would find the filing. It's a mess.
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Yuki Nakamura
•This is why I always check the state's UCC filing guide before doing any amendments. Each state publishes their specific requirements for debtor names and amendments.
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StarSurfer
•Yeah but even the state guides can be confusing. I've seen guides that contradict their own portal requirements. Sometimes you have to call the filing office directly.
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Carmen Reyes
Another thing to consider is whether your debtor is organized under the laws of your filing state. If it's a foreign entity, you might need to use the exact name as it appears on the public organic record of the state of organization, not what's in your loan documents.
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Andre Moreau
•Good point. I always check the Secretary of State database for the exact legal name before filing any UCC documents. Sometimes the entity name in the business records is different from what the borrower uses in their marketing materials.
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Zoe Christodoulou
•This is getting complicated. So I need to check the original UCC-1, the loan documents, AND the state business records? How do you keep track of all this?
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Jamal Thompson
I use a spreadsheet to track all the different name variations I find across documents. UCC-1 version, loan doc version, state business record version, etc. Then I can decide which one to use for the amendment based on what I'm trying to accomplish.
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Mei Chen
•That's actually a really good system. I might steal that idea. Do you also track filing numbers and dates in the same spreadsheet?
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Jamal Thompson
•Yep, filing numbers, dates, expiration dates for continuations, everything. It's saved me from missing continuation deadlines multiple times.
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CosmicCadet
I tried that Certana.ai thing someone mentioned earlier and it actually caught an error I would have missed. I was about to file a UCC-3 termination using a slightly different debtor name than the original UCC-1. The tool flagged the inconsistency immediately when I uploaded both documents.
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Liam O'Connor
•How long did it take to check the documents? I'm always in a rush with these filings.
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CosmicCadet
•Like 30 seconds. You just upload the PDFs and it instantly shows you any inconsistencies. Much faster than manually comparing documents line by line.
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Amara Adeyemi
One more tip - if you're really unsure about the debtor name, you can always file a protective UCC-1 under the corrected name while you sort out the amendment. That way you maintain continuous perfection even if there's a name issue with the original filing.
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Giovanni Gallo
•Interesting approach. Wouldn't that create two separate UCC-1 filings for the same collateral though? Might confuse future searchers.
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Amara Adeyemi
•True, but it's better than having a gap in perfection. You can always clean it up later with terminations once you figure out the correct approach.
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Fatima Al-Mazrouei
•This seems overly complicated. Why not just call the filing office and ask them directly about the name formatting?
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Chloe Davis
Thanks everyone for all the advice! I think I'm going to go with the exact match approach - use the name exactly as it appears on the original UCC-1 for the amendment. And I'm definitely going to check out that document verification tool to make sure I don't have any other inconsistencies. This thread has been incredibly helpful.
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Dylan Wright
•Smart choice. Better safe than sorry with UCC filings. Good luck with your amendment!
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NebulaKnight
•Let us know how it goes! Always interested to hear about successful filings after all this troubleshooting.
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