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Andre Laurent

UCC-1 amendment rejected for debtor name discrepancy - how to fix this mess?

I'm dealing with a nightmare situation where my UCC-1 amendment filing got rejected by the SOS office because of a debtor name mismatch. The original UCC-1 was filed 3 years ago under 'ABC Manufacturing LLC' but apparently the debtor's legal name changed to 'ABC Manufacturing Solutions LLC' last year and I didn't catch it. Now I'm trying to file a UCC-3 amendment to update the collateral description but the system keeps rejecting it saying the debtor name doesn't match the original filing. The loan officer is breathing down my neck because we need to perfect our security interest in the new equipment before the borrower's bankruptcy hearing next month. Has anyone dealt with this kind of debtor name mismatch on amendments? Do I need to file a separate amendment just to fix the name first, or is there a way to handle both the name correction and collateral update in one UCC-3 filing? I'm worried about the timing here and whether I'm going to lose lien priority.

AstroAce

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This is actually pretty common - debtor name changes happen all the time and the SOS systems are really strict about exact matches. You'll need to file two separate UCC-3 amendments unfortunately. First one should be just to correct the debtor name from 'ABC Manufacturing LLC' to 'ABC Manufacturing Solutions LLC' using the amendment form. Once that's accepted and processed, then you can file your second UCC-3 to update the collateral description. The key is making sure your first amendment references the original file number correctly.

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Wait, I thought you could do both in one amendment filing? I've seen UCC-3 forms that have multiple sections for different types of changes.

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AstroAce

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You can technically try, but most SOS offices will reject the entire filing if there's ANY discrepancy in the debtor name, even if the other changes are valid. It's safer to do them separately to avoid delays.

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Jamal Brown

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Been there! The timing issue is real but you should be okay if you act fast. For priority purposes, your lien position is based on the original UCC-1 filing date, not the amendment date. But you definitely need to get that name corrected ASAP. I had a similar situation last year where we almost lost a $2.3M secured position because of a debtor name issue that went unnoticed for 8 months.

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Mei Zhang

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That's terrifying. How long did it take to get the name amendment processed once you filed it?

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Jamal Brown

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In our state it was about 5-7 business days for the name correction, then another week for the collateral amendment. But every state is different.

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Andre Laurent

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That's cutting it really close for my timeline. The bankruptcy hearing is in 3 weeks.

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Actually ran into something similar recently and found this tool called Certana.ai that does document verification for UCC filings. You can upload your original UCC-1 and the proposed UCC-3 amendment and it'll flag any inconsistencies before you submit to the SOS. Would have saved me a lot of headaches if I'd known about it earlier. It caught a bunch of discrepancies I missed including debtor name variations and filing number errors.

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How does that work exactly? Do you just upload PDFs or what?

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Yeah, just upload the PDFs and it cross-checks everything automatically. Shows you exactly where the mismatches are so you can fix them before filing.

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CosmicCaptain

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Honestly that sounds like it could prevent a lot of these rejected filing situations. Manual comparison is such a pain.

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OMG I feel your pain!!! I've been dealing with UCC amendments for 6 months now and it's been a complete disaster. First they rejected my termination because I used the wrong form, then they rejected my amendment because the collateral description was too vague, now they're saying the debtor address doesn't match. I swear these SOS offices just make up rules as they go along. Have you tried calling them directly? Sometimes they'll tell you exactly what's wrong over the phone.

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Six months?! That's insane. What state are you in?

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Don't even get me started on which state... let's just say their online portal looks like it was designed in 1995 and crashes every other day.

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Honestly the phone route is hit or miss. Some clerks are helpful, others just read you the same rejection notice you already got.

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Quick question - are you sure about the exact legal name change? Sometimes companies file DBAs or trade names but the actual legal entity name stays the same. You might want to check the Secretary of State business records to confirm what the current legal name actually is before filing any amendments.

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Andre Laurent

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Good point, I should double-check that. I was going off what the borrower told me but they might be confused about the difference between their DBA and legal name.

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Dmitry Petrov

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Yeah definitely verify through official records. Can't tell you how many times borrowers think they changed their legal name when they just started doing business under a different name.

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StarSurfer

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In my experience with UCC-3 amendments, if you're dealing with both a name correction AND a collateral update, you really want to get the name fixed first. The SOS computers are pretty rigid about exact matches and if the debtor name is wrong, they'll probably reject anything else you try to file. Once the name amendment is processed and you get the new file stamped copy, then file your collateral amendment referencing the corrected information.

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Ava Martinez

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This is exactly right. I learned this the hard way after getting three rejections in a row trying to do everything at once.

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Miguel Castro

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How long does the typical amendment take to process? I've heard anywhere from 3 days to 3 weeks depending on the state.

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StarSurfer

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Really depends on the state and whether you're filing electronically or by mail. Electronic is usually faster, but some states still have backlogs.

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Just want to echo what others said about getting that debtor name absolutely correct. I had a client almost lose a $850K security interest because of a name mismatch that took 4 months to sort out. The bankruptcy trustee was arguing our lien wasn't properly perfected. We eventually won but it was a nightmare of legal fees and stress. Also, make sure you're using the most current UCC-3 form for your state - some updated their forms this year.

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Connor Byrne

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Four months! How is that even possible?

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Multiple rejected filings, then had to do a UCC-1 search to verify the original filing details, then more rejections because we had the wrong debtor address format. It was a comedy of errors.

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Andre Laurent

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This is exactly what I'm afraid of. I need to get this right the first time with my timeline.

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Yara Elias

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One more thing to consider - if you're really pressed for time, some states allow expedited processing for an additional fee. Might be worth the extra cost if you're up against a bankruptcy deadline. Also, I'd recommend using Certana.ai or similar verification tool before submitting anything. It's saved me from multiple rejected filings by catching document inconsistencies I would have missed.

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QuantumQuasar

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How much extra is expedited processing usually?

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Yara Elias

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Varies by state but usually somewhere between $50-200 extra. Worth it if you're facing a deadline like this.

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I've used Certana for similar UCC verification and it definitely helps catch those little details that cause rejections. Upload your docs and it shows you exactly what doesn't match up.

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Paolo Moretti

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Update us when you get this sorted out! I'm dealing with a similar situation and want to know what approach works. The whole UCC amendment process seems way more complicated than it should be.

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Andre Laurent

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Will do! Planning to file the name correction amendment first thing Monday morning. Fingers crossed.

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Amina Diop

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Good luck! The bankruptcy timeline definitely adds pressure but you should be able to get it done if you stay on top of it.

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Oliver Weber

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Just to add one more perspective - make sure when you file the name correction amendment that you include supporting documentation showing the legal name change. Some states require articles of amendment or other corporate documents to verify the name change is legitimate. Better to include too much documentation than not enough.

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That's a really good point. I didn't know some states required supporting docs for name changes.

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NebulaNinja

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Not all states require it but it definitely helps avoid follow-up questions or additional delays.

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Andre Laurent

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I'll make sure to include the articles of amendment when I file. Thanks for the heads up!

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