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Hailey O'Leary

Who has to pay unemployment insurance in Washington - confused about employer vs employee contributions

I'm starting a new job next month and trying to understand how unemployment insurance works in Washington state. My friend says employees don't pay into it but I've heard conflicting info. Who actually pays the unemployment insurance premiums - is it just employers or do employees contribute too? And what about if you're self-employed? Really want to make sure I understand this correctly since I've never had to deal with Washington ESD before.

In Washington state, only employers pay unemployment insurance premiums, not employees. You won't see any UI deductions from your paychecks. Employers pay both state unemployment insurance (SUI) and federal unemployment tax (FUTA). Self-employed people generally can't get unemployment benefits unless they specifically opt into the program.

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That's a relief! So nothing comes out of my paycheck for unemployment insurance? What about if I become unemployed later - do I still qualify for benefits?

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Correct, nothing comes out of your check. As long as your employer pays the premiums and you meet the work/wage requirements, you'd be eligible for Washington ESD benefits if you become unemployed through no fault of your own.

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Just to add - the employer rate varies based on their industry and claims history. New employers usually start at a standard rate. Companies with lots of former employees filing claims end up paying higher rates.

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Makes sense why some employers are so picky about firing people vs laying them off then. Higher claims = higher premiums for them.

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Exactly. That's why you sometimes see companies fighting unemployment claims - it directly affects their future premium costs.

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The self-employed thing is tricky though. Washington does have an optional program where self-employed people can elect coverage, but you have to apply and pay premiums yourself. Most contractors and freelancers don't realize this option exists.

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How much does that cost for self-employed people? I do gig work on the side and never knew this was an option.

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The rate changes yearly but it's based on your reported income. You'd need to check with Washington ESD for current rates. Keep in mind there's usually a waiting period before you can collect benefits.

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Good to know for future reference! Hopefully I won't need to deal with Washington ESD anytime soon but their phone system sounds frustrating.

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I've heard about services like that. Do they actually work or is it just another way to spend money when you're already struggling?

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It worked for me when I was stuck in adjudication for weeks. Sometimes you just need to talk to an actual person to get things moving, and their regular phone lines are impossible.

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One thing to note - even though employees don't pay UI premiums directly, we do pay into the state's Paid Family and Medical Leave program. That DOES come out of your paycheck, but it's separate from unemployment insurance.

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Oh right, I did see that deduction on my last job's paystub. So that's different from unemployment insurance?

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Yes, completely different programs. PFML is for when you need time off for family reasons or medical issues. UI is for when you lose your job.

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The acronyms get confusing - UI, PFML, SDI in some states. At least Washington keeps unemployment insurance employer-funded.

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Just want to emphasize that even though employers pay the premiums, they can't prevent you from filing for benefits if you're laid off. Some employers try to discourage it but that's your right as long as you meet the eligibility requirements.

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Had a boss once who told me not to file because it would 'hurt the company.' Wish I had known better at the time.

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That's unfortunately common. Employers might prefer you don't file but they can't legally stop you. Always file if you're eligible.

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The system seems designed to make it hard for people to actually get benefits even though employers are paying in. I've been trying to reach Washington ESD for weeks about my pending claim.

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What's your claim stuck on? Adjudication issues are really common right now.

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Yeah, it's in adjudication and I can't get through to anyone to find out why. The online system just says 'in progress' with no timeline.

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Does anyone know if temporary workers or seasonal employees are covered the same way? I work construction and jobs come and go frequently.

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Yes, as long as your employer is paying unemployment insurance premiums and you meet the wage/work requirements, temporary and seasonal work counts toward your eligibility.

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Good to know. I always wondered if the short-term nature of construction work would disqualify me somehow.

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The wage requirements are important to understand too. You need to have earned a certain amount in your base period to qualify for Washington ESD benefits, even though you haven't personally paid premiums.

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What's the base period? And how much do you need to have earned?

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Base period is usually the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before you file. Wage requirements change annually but you need earnings in at least two quarters and meet minimum thresholds.

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I think there's some confusion about federal vs state programs too. Washington ESD handles the state unemployment insurance that employers fund, but there are also federal programs during emergencies.

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Like during COVID when they had all those extra programs? Those were different from regular unemployment insurance, right?

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Exactly. Programs like PUA and PEUC were federal emergency programs. Regular state UI that employers pay into is the standard program.

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One more thing - even though employees don't pay UI premiums, we do pay federal and state income taxes on unemployment benefits we receive. Just something to keep in mind if you ever need to file.

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Wait, so unemployment benefits are taxable income? I never thought about that.

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Yes, you'll get a 1099-G form and need to report it on your tax return. You can have taxes withheld from your weekly benefits or pay when you file.

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The employer-funded system makes sense when you think about it. Companies benefit from having a stable workforce and this insurance helps people between jobs without going on other assistance programs.

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True, though it's frustrating when you can't get through to Washington ESD to actually access the benefits your former employer paid into.

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Yeah the phone system is definitely the weak point. I've heard of people using services like Claimyr to get through when they really need to speak with someone.

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Just want to confirm - absolutely nothing comes out of employee paychecks for unemployment insurance in Washington state. I was worried about this when I started my current job but verified with HR.

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Thanks for confirming! That makes budgeting easier knowing exactly what will come out of my paycheck.

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Yeah, it's nice that Washington doesn't burden employees with UI premiums like some other programs do.

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For anyone reading this thread later - make sure you understand the difference between being fired 'for cause' vs being laid off. Even though your employer paid the premiums, you might not qualify for benefits if you were terminated for misconduct.

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What counts as misconduct for Washington ESD purposes? Is it pretty strict?

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It has to be work-related misconduct that violates reasonable employer expectations. Simple poor performance usually doesn't disqualify you, but things like theft or willful policy violations can.

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The whole system would work better if Washington ESD improved their customer service. Employers pay in, people get laid off, but then can't get help when they need it. That disconnect is really frustrating.

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Absolutely. The funding mechanism works fine but the delivery system needs work. I've been on hold for literally hours before.

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That's why I used Claimyr when I needed to get through. Sometimes you just can't wait weeks for a callback that might never come.

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I'm just starting to learn about all this before my new job starts, but it does seem backwards that employers fund the system but then people can't access it when they need it. Is there any push to improve the phone system or are we stuck with services like Claimyr as workarounds?

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