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Who does not qualify for unemployment benefits in Washington? Need to know eligibility rules

I'm trying to help my brother figure out if he can apply for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. He's been working odd jobs and gig work for the past year, mostly driving for delivery apps and doing some freelance graphic design. He also had a part-time retail job that ended last month. I know there are specific rules about who qualifies and who doesn't, but I'm getting confused reading through all the Washington ESD eligibility requirements. Can someone break down who actually doesn't qualify for UI benefits? I want to make sure he doesn't waste time applying if he's not eligible.

The main categories of people who don't qualify for Washington ESD unemployment benefits include: 1) Self-employed individuals and independent contractors (unless they paid into the system voluntarily), 2) People who quit their job without good cause, 3) Those fired for misconduct, 4) Students attending school full-time, 5) People who haven't earned enough wages in their base period. Your brother's gig work probably won't count unless those companies were paying into Washington's unemployment system, which most don't.

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That's what I was afraid of. His delivery app work was all 1099, so probably no unemployment taxes paid. What about the retail job though? That should count right?

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Yes, the retail job wages should count toward his base period earnings if they were paying regular payroll taxes. He might still qualify if he earned enough from that job, but the gig work income won't help his claim.

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Also people who are not able and available for work don't qualify. Like if you're sick, injured, or have other commitments that prevent you from accepting full-time work. Washington ESD requires you to be actively looking for work and able to start immediately if offered a job.

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This is important! I got denied initially because I mentioned I was taking care of my elderly parent and couldn't work certain hours. Had to appeal and prove I was still available for work within reasonable limitations.

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Good to know. My brother is definitely available for work, so that shouldn't be an issue for him.

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If he's having trouble getting through to Washington ESD to check his eligibility, I'd recommend trying Claimyr. It's this service that helps you actually reach a real person at ESD without waiting on hold forever. I used it when I needed to clarify some wage information on my claim. Check out claimyr.com - they even have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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Thanks for the suggestion! Getting through to Washington ESD has been nearly impossible. I'll look into that service.

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Never heard of Claimyr before but might be worth it if it actually works. The Washington ESD phone system is absolutely terrible.

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Don't forget about the earnings requirement! In Washington, you need to have earned wages in at least two quarters of your base period, and your total base period wages need to be at least 1.5 times your highest quarter earnings. Plus you need at least $1,000 in your highest quarter. A lot of people get tripped up on this part.

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How do you calculate the base period? Is it just the last four quarters before you apply?

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It's typically the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before you file your claim. So if you file in January 2025, your base period would usually be January 2024 through December 2024.

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Sometimes Washington ESD will use an alternate base period if you don't qualify under the standard one. It uses the four most recent quarters instead of skipping one. Worth asking about if the regular base period doesn't work.

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People who are receiving certain types of other benefits might not qualify either. Like if you're getting Social Security retirement benefits or workers' compensation, it can affect your UI eligibility. Also, non-citizens need to have work authorization to qualify for Washington ESD benefits.

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He's a US citizen and not getting any other benefits, so that shouldn't be an issue. Thanks for mentioning it though.

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ugh the washington esd system is so confusing. i applied last year and got denied because they said i didnt have good cause for quitting my job even though my boss was literally harassing me. had to go through a whole appeal process

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That's rough. Harassment can definitely be good cause for quitting, but you have to document everything and prove it. Did you win your appeal?

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yeah eventually but it took months. wish id known about proper documentation beforehand

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Military personnel might have different rules too. If you're active duty military, you generally can't collect unemployment. But veterans can usually apply for benefits based on their military service through a federal program that works with state systems.

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Not applicable to my brother's situation, but good info for others reading this thread.

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One thing that catches people off guard is the job search requirement. Even if you qualify for benefits, you have to actively search for work and keep a log of your job search activities. Washington ESD requires at least 3 job search activities per week. If you can't or won't do that, you won't stay eligible for benefits.

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What counts as a job search activity? Just applying for jobs or other things too?

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Lots of things count - applying for jobs, attending job fairs, networking events, interviews, creating or updating your resume with WorkSource, etc. Washington ESD has a list of approved activities on their website.

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Since your brother's situation seems complicated with the mix of gig work and regular employment, he should really talk to someone at Washington ESD directly. When I had questions about my eligibility, I used Claimyr to get through to an actual representative. Saved me hours of trying to call on my own. The service made it super easy to connect with someone who could look at my specific situation.

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Yeah, I think that's probably the best approach. His situation is definitely not straightforward with all the different types of work he's done.

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Students are tricky too. If you're enrolled in school more than half-time, you might not qualify unless you're in an approved training program. Washington ESD has specific rules about this and it's not always clear cut.

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He's not in school currently, so that's not an issue. But good to know for the future.

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Here's a quick eligibility checklist for Washington ESD unemployment: 1) Lost job through no fault of your own OR quit for good cause, 2) Meet the earnings requirements in your base period, 3) Able and available for work, 4) Actively seeking work, 5) Not receiving disqualifying benefits, 6) Authorized to work in the US. If your brother meets all these criteria, he should apply even if he's not 100% sure about the wage requirements.

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This is super helpful! I'll go through this checklist with him. The wage requirements part is what I'm most unsure about.

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The worst that happens if he doesn't meet the wage requirements is he gets denied. But Washington ESD will tell him exactly why and what he would need to qualify. Sometimes people are closer than they think.

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Don't forget about the voluntary quit rules! If you quit your job, you need to prove you had good cause connected to your work. Things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, significant changes to your job duties or pay, or domestic violence situations can be good cause. But just being unhappy or wanting a different job usually isn't enough.

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He was actually laid off from the retail job due to slow business, so quitting shouldn't be an issue in his case.

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seasonal workers sometimes get confused about this too. like if you work summers only or holiday retail, you might not qualify during your off season if washington esd considers it your normal work pattern

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That's a good point. If you have a predictable pattern of seasonal work and you're just in your normal off-season, Washington ESD might not consider you unemployed in the traditional sense.

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I've seen people get denied because they were receiving pension payments from a previous employer. If the pension is based on work you did for the same employer you're claiming benefits for, it can reduce or eliminate your UI benefits.

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Definitely not applicable to my brother - he's young and hasn't worked anywhere long enough for pension benefits. But thanks for mentioning it.

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The key thing is Washington ESD looks at each case individually. Even if you think you might not qualify, it's often worth applying because the rules can be complex and there might be exceptions or special circumstances that apply to your situation. The application process itself will help determine eligibility.

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That's probably the best advice. I'll encourage him to apply and see what happens. Better to know for sure than to assume he's not eligible.

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Just wanted to follow up on the Claimyr suggestion - if your brother does apply and runs into issues or needs clarification on his eligibility determination, that's exactly when the service is most helpful. Sometimes Washington ESD's written notices aren't super clear about why someone was denied or what they need to do to fix it. Talking to a real person can make all the difference.

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I'll definitely keep that in mind if he needs to talk to someone at Washington ESD. Thanks for all the help everyone - this thread has been really informative!

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One last thing - if he gets denied initially, don't give up! Washington ESD denial letters explain your appeal rights. I know several people who were denied at first but won on appeal. Sometimes it's just a matter of providing additional documentation or clarifying information.

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Good to know. Hopefully it won't come to that, but I'll remember that appeals are an option if needed.

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Appeals are definitely worth pursuing if you believe the denial was wrong. You have 30 days from the date of the determination to file an appeal with Washington ESD.

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this whole thread makes me realize how complicated unemployment benefits are. no wonder so many people have trouble with the system

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Right? I thought it would be more straightforward. Glad I asked here before my brother went through the application process blind.

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Final thought - make sure your brother has all his wage information ready when he applies. Pay stubs, W-2s, 1099s, anything that shows his earnings. Washington ESD uses this to calculate his base period wages and determine his benefit amount if he qualifies. Having everything organized upfront makes the process much smoother.

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Great advice! I'll make sure he gathers all that paperwork before starting the application. Thanks again everyone for all the helpful information!

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