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Ellie Perry

What disqualifies from unemployment benefits in Washington ESD - need to understand the rules

I'm trying to understand what can disqualify someone from getting unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. My brother just got fired from his job and he's worried he might not qualify because of the circumstances. He was let go for attendance issues but he says it was because of his car breaking down multiple times. I want to help him understand what might disqualify him before he applies. Can someone explain the main reasons Washington ESD would deny or disqualify someone from UI benefits?

There are several main categories that can disqualify you from Washington ESD unemployment benefits. The biggest ones are: 1) Misconduct - this includes things like violating company policy, insubordination, or excessive absences without valid reason 2) Voluntary quit without good cause 3) Not being able and available for work 4) Not meeting the job search requirements 5) Refusing suitable work offers. For your brother's situation with attendance, Washington ESD will look at whether the absences were within his control and if he followed proper procedures to notify his employer.

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So if he can prove his car problems were legitimate emergencies and he tried to notify his boss, that might help his case?

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Yes, documentation is key. If he has repair receipts, text messages to his supervisor, or other proof that he tried to handle the situation properly, that could work in his favor during the adjudication process.

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Don't forget about the monetary requirements too. You need to have earned enough wages in your base period to qualify. Washington ESD looks at the first four of the last five completed quarters before you filed your claim. If you don't meet the minimum earnings threshold, you'll be disqualified even if you weren't fired for misconduct.

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He's been working full time for over a year so I think he should be okay on that front, but good point to check.

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The whole adjudication process can be really stressful when you're not sure if you'll qualify. I went through something similar last year and it took Washington ESD about 3 weeks to make a decision. If your brother does get disqualified, he can always appeal the decision. But honestly, the hardest part is even getting through to talk to someone at Washington ESD to explain your situation. I tried calling for days and kept getting busy signals or getting hung up on after waiting on hold for hours.

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just went through this myself. got fired for being late too many times but it was because of my kids daycare situation. washington esd approved my claim because i could show it was circumstances beyond my control and i was trying to work with my employer on a solution. your brother should definitely apply and explain his situation in detail when he files.

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That's encouraging to hear! Did you have to provide a lot of documentation during the process?

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yeah they asked for emails between me and my supervisor, my attendance records, and proof of the daycare issues. took about a month to get everything resolved but it worked out.

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Here's something important - even if he gets disqualified initially, he can still file weekly claims while appealing the decision. A lot of people don't know this and they stop filing claims thinking they're completely out of luck. Keep filing those weekly claims! If you win your appeal, you'll get back pay for all the weeks you filed.

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I didn't know that! So he should file his initial claim regardless and then deal with any disqualification issues after?

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Exactly. Better to file and potentially get disqualified than to not file at all and miss out on benefits you might actually be entitled to.

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The system is so messed up honestly. They disqualify people for the stupidest reasons but then you see people gaming the system and collecting benefits when they shouldn't. Your brother probably has a better chance than he thinks if he can document his car troubles.

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I hope so. He's really stressed about it because he needs the income while he looks for another job.

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One more thing to mention - Washington ESD also disqualifies people for things like not actively searching for work, not registering with WorkSource, or failing drug tests. But for a misconduct case like your brother's, the key is going to be whether Washington ESD believes the attendance issues were willful misconduct or due to circumstances beyond his control.

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What counts as 'actively searching for work'? I keep hearing different things about how many jobs you need to apply for each week.

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In Washington, you need to make at least 3 job search activities per week. This can include applying for jobs, networking, attending job fairs, or other approved activities. You have to keep a log of your search activities.

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Your brother should also know that if he gets disqualified for misconduct, there might be a waiting period before he can reapply. It's not necessarily permanent but there are consequences beyond just the immediate denial.

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How long is the waiting period usually?

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It varies depending on the type of misconduct. Could be anywhere from a few weeks to several months. That's why it's so important to appeal if you disagree with their decision.

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I was disqualified initially for 'voluntary quit' even though I was basically forced to resign due to a hostile work environment. Had to go through the whole appeal process and provide tons of documentation. Eventually won my case but it took almost 2 months. The key is being persistent and having good documentation of everything.

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That must have been really stressful. Did you have to represent yourself during the appeal or did you get help?

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I represented myself but I did a lot of research on Washington ESD rules and procedures. There are also legal aid organizations that can help if you qualify.

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The misconduct thing is really subjective. I've seen people get approved when I thought they shouldn't have been, and others get denied when it seemed unfair. A lot depends on which adjudicator you get and how well you present your case.

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So it's kind of a lottery system?

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Not exactly, but there is some inconsistency. That's why having good documentation and being able to clearly explain your situation is so important.

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Don't forget about the work search requirements once you're approved. You can get disqualified later if you don't meet those requirements. I know someone who lost their benefits because they weren't doing enough job search activities each week.

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Yeah, they're pretty strict about that. You have to log every job you apply for and they can audit your search activities at any time.

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If your brother does get disqualified, make sure he understands the appeal process. You only have 30 days from the date of the determination to file an appeal. Don't wait until the last minute because the system can be slow.

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Good to know. Is the appeal process complicated?

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It's not too bad if you're organized. You basically have to explain why you disagree with their decision and provide supporting evidence. There's usually a phone hearing where you can present your case.

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How does that service work exactly?

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The whole system is designed to discourage people from applying. They make it as difficult as possible and hope you just give up. But if you're persistent and have a legitimate case, you can usually get through the process.

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That's frustrating but good to know. I'll make sure my brother doesn't give up too easily.

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For attendance issues specifically, Washington ESD will look at whether you followed your employer's attendance policy, if you had valid reasons for absences, and whether you made efforts to correct the problem. Car trouble can be considered a valid reason if it's documented and you handled it appropriately.

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He did try to call in when his car broke down, but I'm not sure if he followed their exact policy for reporting absences.

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That could be important. If he can show he made good faith efforts to communicate with his employer, that will help his case even if he didn't follow every detail of the policy perfectly.

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Another thing to consider is whether his employer will contest the claim. Sometimes employers don't bother to respond to Washington ESD's requests for information, which can work in your favor. But if they do contest it, you'll need to be prepared to present your side of the story.

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How would we know if they're contesting it?

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Washington ESD will usually let you know if there's a dispute and they'll ask for information from both sides. The whole adjudication process takes longer when the employer contests the claim.

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Bottom line - tell your brother to file his claim and be honest about the circumstances. Provide any documentation he has about the car troubles and his attempts to work with his employer. Even if he gets initially disqualified, he can appeal and often win if he has a good case.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice. I'll pass this along to him and encourage him to apply. Sounds like he has a decent chance if he handles it right.

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You're welcome! The key is not to get discouraged if the initial decision doesn't go your way. The appeal process exists for a reason and people do win their cases regularly.

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Yeah, it's pretty much the only reliable way to actually reach a human being at Washington ESD these days. The phone system is completely overwhelmed.

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