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Makayla Shoemaker

What makes you ineligible for unemployment benefits in Washington - need clarification

I'm trying to understand all the different reasons someone might be denied unemployment benefits in Washington. My brother just got his claim denied and Washington ESD said he was 'ineligible' but didn't give much detail. I want to make sure I don't make any mistakes when I file my own claim next week after my layoff. Can someone explain what makes you ineligible for unemployment? I've heard there are work requirements and other rules but I'm not clear on all of them.

There are several main categories that make you ineligible for Washington ESD unemployment benefits. First, you need sufficient work history - you must have worked in at least two quarters during your base period and earned a minimum amount. Second, you must be unemployed through no fault of your own - if you quit without good cause or were fired for misconduct, you'll be disqualified. Third, you must be able and available for work, actively seeking employment, and meet weekly job search requirements.

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Thank you! What counts as 'good cause' for quitting? My brother quit his job because his boss was harassing him but Washington ESD still denied his claim.

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Good cause is pretty specific - it includes things like unsafe working conditions, significant changes to job duties or pay, documented harassment, or domestic violence situations. Your brother should definitely appeal if he has documentation of the harassment.

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I went through this whole process last year. Besides what was mentioned, you can also be ineligible if you're not a U.S. citizen or authorized to work, if you're receiving certain other benefits like workers comp, or if you refuse suitable work without good cause. Washington ESD is pretty strict about the job search requirements too - you need to make at least 3 job contacts per week.

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Wait, I thought it was only 2 job contacts per week? Did they change it?

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It's 3 per week for most people, but can be less if you're in certain training programs or have other arrangements with WorkSource.

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The hardest part is actually getting through to Washington ESD to get clarification on why you were denied. I spent weeks trying to call them about my ineligibility determination. Finally found this service called Claimyr that helped me get through - they have this system that calls for you and gets you connected to an actual person. Check out claimyr.com and there's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ. Made all the difference in getting my appeal sorted out.

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Interesting, I've never heard of that service. Did it actually work for you?

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Yeah, got through on the first try after using it. Saved me hours of redial attempts. The Washington ESD agent was able to explain exactly why I was initially denied and what I needed to do for my appeal.

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Don't forget about the earnings requirements! You need to have earned at least $5,265 during your base period, with at least $1,755 in your highest quarter. A lot of part-time workers get tripped up by this one. Also, if you're a student enrolled more than half-time, you might be ineligible unless you meet specific exceptions.

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Those amounts seem higher than I remember. Are you sure about the $5,265?

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Yes, those are the current 2025 amounts. Washington ESD updates them periodically based on wage data.

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Good to know about the student thing. I'm taking one college class at night - would that disqualify me?

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One class shouldn't be an issue. It's when you're enrolled more than half-time that it becomes problematic, unless you can prove the schooling doesn't interfere with your availability for work.

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UGH the Washington ESD system is so frustrating!! They make it seem like EVERYTHING makes you ineligible. I got denied because I supposedly 'voluntarily left' my job even though I was basically forced out due to a hostile work environment. The appeal process is a nightmare too.

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Hostile work environment can definitely qualify as good cause if you document it properly. Did you file complaints with HR or keep records of the incidents?

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I kept some texts and emails but didn't really know I needed to file formal complaints. Wish I had known that beforehand.

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Another big one that trips people up is the 'able and available' requirement. If you have any restrictions on when you can work, what type of work you'll accept, or where you're willing to work, Washington ESD might find you ineligible. This includes things like only wanting remote work or refusing to work weekends.

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That seems really restrictive. What if you have childcare issues that limit when you can work?

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Childcare arrangements can be tricky. You need to show you're still genuinely available for work during reasonable hours. Having some limitations is okay, but they can't be so restrictive that you're essentially unavailable.

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I was ineligible for the first few weeks of my claim because I was on vacation when I filed. Even though I got laid off before the vacation, Washington ESD said I wasn't available for work during those travel dates. Had to wait until I got back to start receiving benefits.

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Yeah, that's a common issue. You have to be available for work each week you claim benefits, even if you already had plans made before losing your job.

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Learned that lesson the hard way! Now I know to be more careful about the timing of filing claims.

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If you're getting severance pay or certain pension payments, that can also affect your eligibility. Washington ESD will reduce or deny benefits during weeks when you're receiving those payments, depending on the amount.

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I might be getting a small severance package. Does any amount disqualify you completely?

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It depends on the amount and how it's paid. If it's more than 1.5 times your weekly benefit amount, it could postpone your benefits. You need to report all severance payments to Washington ESD.

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Criminal background can also be an issue in some cases, especially if you're in jail or prison. Washington ESD won't pay benefits while you're incarcerated. Also, if you owe money for previous overpayments, they might offset your new benefits.

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The overpayment thing is real. I owed $800 from a previous claim error and they took it out of my new benefits gradually.

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Yeah, they don't forgive those overpayments easily. Better to deal with them upfront than have your benefits reduced later.

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Immigration status is another factor. You need to be legally authorized to work in the U.S. Washington ESD will verify this, and if you can't provide proper documentation, you'll be denied benefits.

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What kind of documentation do they need for that?

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Usually your Social Security card and driver's license, or other work authorization documents. They cross-reference with federal databases to verify eligibility.

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Refusing suitable work is a big one that people don't realize can disqualify them later in their claim. After a certain number of weeks on benefits, Washington ESD expects you to accept jobs that pay less than your previous job. The definition of 'suitable' gets broader over time.

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How much less? Like if I made $25/hour before, what's the minimum I'd have to accept?

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It varies, but generally after 5 weeks you might need to accept jobs paying 75% of your previous wage, and after 13 weeks it could go down to around 70%. These are rough guidelines - Washington ESD looks at each situation individually.

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Medical issues can make you ineligible too if they prevent you from working. If you're unable to work due to illness or injury, you should apply for disability benefits instead of unemployment. Washington ESD requires that you be physically able to work.

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What if you can work but have some physical limitations?

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As long as you can still perform some type of work and are actively seeking jobs within your limitations, you should be okay. The key is proving you're genuinely available for work.

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Independent contractors and self-employed people often get confused about eligibility. You need to have been an employee paying into the unemployment system to qualify for regular benefits. If you were a 1099 contractor, you're generally not eligible unless you also had W-2 employment.

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What about gig workers like Uber drivers?

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Most gig workers are considered independent contractors, so they wouldn't qualify for regular unemployment. There were special pandemic programs for them, but those have ended.

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The job search requirements can also make you ineligible if you don't follow them properly. You need to keep detailed records of your job search activities and be able to provide them if Washington ESD asks. Just applying online isn't enough - you need to make genuine contacts.

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What counts as a 'genuine contact'? Does applying through Indeed count?

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Online applications can count, but you need to diversify your search methods. Networking, attending job fairs, contacting employers directly - Washington ESD wants to see you're making real efforts to find work.

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One thing that caught me off guard was that having your own business can affect eligibility. Even if your business isn't making money, Washington ESD might consider you self-employed rather than unemployed. You need to be careful about how you report any business activities.

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I do some freelance writing on the side but it's barely any income. Would that be a problem?

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You need to report all earnings, even small amounts. As long as you're still genuinely seeking full-time employment and available for work, small freelance income usually won't disqualify you completely, but it might reduce your weekly benefits.

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Military service members have different rules. If you're recently separated from the military, you might need to meet different eligibility criteria. There are special programs for veterans, but the basic work and wage requirements still apply.

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Do military wages count toward the base period earnings?

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Yes, military wages are included in your base period calculation. Veterans also get some preference in job training programs through WorkSource.

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School district employees often face seasonal ineligibility issues. If you work for a school and have reasonable assurance of returning to work the next school year, you might be denied benefits during summer break or other school holidays.

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That seems unfair if you're not getting paid during those breaks.

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It is frustrating, but the logic is that you have a job to return to, so you're not truly unemployed. The rules are pretty strict about this for educational employees.

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Just want to add that if you're struggling to get through to Washington ESD to understand your specific ineligibility issues, that Claimyr service mentioned earlier really does work. I used it when I was trying to figure out why my claim was stuck in adjudication for weeks. Being able to actually talk to someone at Washington ESD made all the difference in getting my issues resolved.

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Good to hear another positive review. Might be worth trying if my brother decides to appeal his denial.

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I was skeptical about paying for a service like that at first, but honestly the time saved was worth it. Washington ESD phone lines are impossible to get through to otherwise.

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Bottom line - Washington ESD has gotten stricter over the years about eligibility requirements. They're looking for any reason to deny claims to save money. Make sure you understand all the rules before filing, keep detailed records of everything, and don't be afraid to appeal if you think they made a mistake.

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Thanks everyone for all the detailed information. This thread has been incredibly helpful in understanding what I need to watch out for when I file my claim.

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Good luck with your claim! Just remember to be completely honest on your application and keep good records of your job search activities.

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Another important eligibility issue that hasn't been mentioned much is drug testing. If you're fired for failing a drug test at work, Washington ESD will likely deny your benefits for misconduct. Also, if you're participating in certain state or federal programs that require drug testing and you fail or refuse to take the test, that can affect your unemployment eligibility too. I learned this the hard way when helping my cousin with his claim - he thought his medical marijuana card would protect him, but Washington ESD didn't see it that way for his particular job situation.

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