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Alexander Evans

What would make me ineligible for unemployment benefits in Washington?

I'm thinking about filing for unemployment but I'm not sure if I'd even qualify. I was let go from my retail job last month after working there for 8 months. My manager said it was due to 'performance issues' but I think it was really because I couldn't work the weekend shifts they suddenly required. I've heard there are different reasons why Washington ESD might deny your claim and I don't want to waste time applying if I'm not eligible. What are the main things that would make someone ineligible for UI benefits? I'm really stressed about this whole situation.

The main reasons Washington ESD denies claims are: 1) Quitting without good cause, 2) Being fired for misconduct, 3) Not meeting the base year earnings requirement, 4) Not being able and available for work, 5) Not actively seeking work. Since you were let go rather than quitting, you might still qualify even with performance issues - misconduct has a specific legal definition that's different from poor performance.

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That's helpful! I definitely didn't quit, they let me go. What counts as 'misconduct' versus just not being good at the job?

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Misconduct usually means willful violations of company policy, theft, insubordination, or showing up drunk. Poor performance or inability to meet job requirements generally doesn't count as misconduct unless it was deliberate.

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also you need to have earned enough in your base year - I think it's like $3,000 minimum in Washington? and you have to have worked in at least 2 quarters. if you only worked 8 months you might be close to that line

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I made about $18,000 last year so I think I'm okay on the earnings part. What exactly is the base year though?

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Your base year is the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters before you file. So if you file now in 2025, it would be Q1 2024 through Q4 2024.

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I got denied initially because of some confusion about whether I quit or was fired. Took forever to get through to someone at Washington ESD to explain my situation. I actually ended up using this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me get connected to an actual person - they have this video demo thing that shows how it works (https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ). Made the whole process way less frustrating.

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How does that work exactly? I'm already dreading trying to call Washington ESD if I need to.

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Basically they handle the calling and waiting for you, then connect you when they get an agent on the line. Saved me hours of trying to get through myself.

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You also can't be getting certain other benefits like workers comp or pension payments. And if you're going to school full time that can affect your eligibility too because you have to be available for work.

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Good to know! I'm not in school and not getting any other benefits so I should be fine there.

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The job search requirements are pretty strict too. You have to be actively looking for work and able to accept a job if offered. Some people get tripped up because they think they can be picky about what jobs they'll take.

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Yeah I learned this the hard way - you can't just apply for your dream job and ignore everything else. Washington ESD expects you to expand your search if you're not finding work in your field.

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That makes sense. I'm willing to work pretty much anywhere right now so that shouldn't be an issue.

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Don't forget about the waiting week! Even if you qualify, you won't get paid for your first week. And make sure you file your weekly claims on time - missing deadlines can cause problems.

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There's a waiting week? So I won't get anything the first week even if approved?

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That's right, the first week is unpaid. It's called the waiting week and everyone has to serve it when they first file a claim.

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Immigration status matters too if that applies to you. You have to be authorized to work in the US to get unemployment benefits.

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I'm a US citizen so no issues there, but good point for others reading this.

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Based on what you described, it sounds like you probably qualify. Being fired for performance issues usually isn't considered misconduct unless there were policy violations involved. The fact that they changed your schedule requirements and you couldn't accommodate that actually works in your favor.

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That's reassuring! I was really worried about the 'performance issues' part. Should I mention the schedule change issue when I file?

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Definitely mention it. Frame it as being unable to meet new job requirements that weren't part of your original position. That strengthens your case.

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just file already! worst case they deny you and you appeal. the whole system is designed to make you think you don't qualify when you actually do

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True, I guess I'm overthinking it. Better to try and get denied than not try at all.

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One thing to watch out for - if your employer contests your claim, it can delay things. They might try to say you were fired for misconduct even if it was really just performance. Be prepared to provide your side of the story if that happens.

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How would I know if they contest it? And what happens then?

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Washington ESD will send you a notice if there's a dispute. You'll have a chance to respond and they'll make a determination. If it goes to adjudication, that's when having a way to contact them becomes really important.

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This is exactly why I mentioned Claimyr earlier - if your claim goes into adjudication, you'll definitely want to be able to reach someone at Washington ESD to check on the status.

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Age discrimination is another thing they look at. If you're over 40 and got fired for 'performance issues' that might actually be age discrimination, which would definitely qualify you for benefits.

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I'm only 28 so probably not relevant in my case, but good to know for others.

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Make sure you have all your documentation ready - pay stubs, termination letter, anything that shows your work history and reason for separation. The more documentation you have, the smoother the process will be.

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I have my last few pay stubs but they didn't give me a termination letter. Is that going to be a problem?

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Not necessarily. You can still file without it, but try to get something in writing about your separation if possible. Even an email would help.

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honestly the biggest thing that makes people ineligible is not understanding the system and making mistakes on their application or weekly claims. read everything carefully and answer honestly

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That's good advice. I'll make sure to read all the instructions carefully when I file.

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You mentioned retail - some seasonal workers have issues with eligibility depending on when they worked and for how long. But 8 months should be enough to establish a work history.

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It wasn't seasonal work, just regular retail. But good point about work history - I'm glad I worked there as long as I did.

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UNEMPLOYMENT FRAUD is a big deal too!! Don't lie about anything or try to hide income. They will find out and you'll have to pay it all back plus penalties. I've seen people get in serious trouble for this.

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Definitely planning to be completely honest about everything. Not worth the risk of getting in trouble.

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Good attitude. Honesty is always the best policy with Washington ESD, even if it means a delay in processing.

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If you end up needing to contact Washington ESD about your claim, I had success with that Claimyr service too. Way better than trying to call myself - I was getting nowhere with the regular phone system.

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Seems like multiple people have had good experiences with that. I'll keep it in mind if I run into issues.

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Bottom line - from what you described, you should qualify. Performance issues aren't misconduct, you worked long enough, and you were involuntarily separated. File the claim and see what happens. Don't let fear of denial stop you from trying.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice! I feel much more confident about filing now. Going to start the application tomorrow.

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Good luck! Remember to file your weekly claims on time once you get approved.

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You've got this! Just be honest and thorough in your application.

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One last thing - if you do get denied initially, don't panic. A lot of people get approved on appeal. The initial determination isn't always final.

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That's reassuring to know. Hopefully it won't come to that but good to know I'd have options.

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