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Fatima Al-Mazrouei

Can I get unemployment if terminated - Washington ESD eligibility question

I was just terminated from my job last Friday and I'm trying to figure out if I can file for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. My manager said it was due to performance issues but I feel like they never gave me proper training or clear expectations. I've been working there for 8 months and this came out of nowhere. Does anyone know if being terminated disqualifies you from getting UI benefits? I'm really stressed about how I'm going to pay my bills.

You can definitely apply for unemployment even if you were terminated! Washington ESD looks at whether you were fired for 'misconduct' or not. Performance issues usually don't count as misconduct unless you were deliberately doing something wrong or violating company policy. File your claim right away since there's a waiting period.

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That's a relief to hear. What counts as misconduct exactly? I was never written up or anything formal like that.

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Misconduct is stuff like stealing, being drunk at work, violence, or willfully violating rules. Poor performance or not being a good fit usually isn't misconduct in Washington ESD's eyes.

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I went through something similar last year. Filed my claim online and Washington ESD approved it even though I was terminated. The key is being honest on your application about why you were let go. They'll investigate if your employer contests it but most performance-related terminations get approved.

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Did your employer fight it? I'm worried they might try to block my claim.

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They did contest it initially but Washington ESD still approved my claim after reviewing everything. Took about 3 weeks total.

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How long did the investigation take? I'm in a similar situation and getting anxious about the wait.

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File immediately! I made the mistake of waiting a week thinking I needed to find another job first. You lose benefits for every week you don't file. Washington ESD backdates to when you became unemployed but you still have to file that first claim to start the process.

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Good to know! I'll file today then. The Washington ESD website is pretty confusing though.

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Yeah it's not the most user-friendly. Make sure you have your social security card and employment history ready when you apply.

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DONT LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE! If you were fired you can't get unemployment period. I was denied when I got terminated and had to appeal it. Washington ESD always sides with the employer first.

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That's not accurate. Termination doesn't automatically disqualify you from UI benefits. It depends on the reason for termination.

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Well that wasn't my experience. Maybe things changed but I got screwed over.

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What was the reason you were terminated? That makes a huge difference in whether you qualify or not.

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I'm a former Washington ESD employee and can confirm that termination for performance issues typically doesn't disqualify you from benefits. The employer has to prove misconduct, which is a high bar. Poor performance, personality conflicts, or not meeting expectations usually don't meet that standard.

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That's really helpful coming from someone who worked there! Should I be worried about the adjudication process?

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Adjudication happens when there's a dispute about eligibility. Be honest in your application and you should be fine. Most cases resolve in your favor if it's truly a performance issue.

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How long does adjudication usually take these days? I've been waiting 2 weeks already.

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make sure you document everything about your termination. save any emails performance reviews etc. washington esd might ask for proof if your employer contests the claim. also start your job search right away because youll need to show youre actively looking for work

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Good point about documentation. I do have some emails that show the lack of training they provided.

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exactly that kind of stuff helps your case. shows you were trying to do the job but didnt get proper support

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I got terminated 6 months ago for attendance issues (had some health problems) and Washington ESD still approved my claim. They look at each case individually. Don't assume you won't qualify just because you were fired.

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That gives me hope. Were there any complications during your claim process?

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My employer tried to fight it but I had medical documentation for my absences. Washington ESD ruled in my favor after about 3 weeks of review.

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Did you have to do a phone interview or anything like that during the process?

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Just wanted to add that you should file your weekly claims even if your initial claim is under review. Don't wait for approval or you might miss out on benefits for those weeks. Washington ESD can backdate but it's easier if you stay current with your weekly filings.

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I didn't know that! So I should file weekly claims before my main claim is even approved?

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Yes, absolutely. File your initial claim first, then start filing weekly claims. It keeps everything current in their system.

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Washington ESD has gotten better about processing claims since the pandemic but they're still slow sometimes. I used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier when I needed to check on my adjudication status. Much easier than trying to get through their phone system myself.

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I might need to try that if I can't get through. Did they help resolve your issue?

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Yeah, I was able to talk to an actual person who explained what was happening with my claim. Turned out to be a simple verification issue that got resolved quickly once I knew what they needed.

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The worst they can do is deny your claim, and then you can appeal if you disagree with their decision. There's no penalty for applying even if you're not sure you qualify. Better to try and get denied than not try at all.

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True, I have nothing to lose by applying. Thanks for the encouragement!

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Exactly this mindset helped me when I was in a similar situation. Filed the claim and got approved even though I was nervous about it.

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One thing to remember is that Washington ESD will contact your former employer to get their side of the story. Make sure your version of events is accurate and consistent with what you put in your application. Any major discrepancies could hurt your case.

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That makes sense. I'll stick to the facts about what happened and not try to make it sound better than it was.

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Good approach. Honesty is always the best policy with these applications.

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I've helped several friends navigate Washington ESD claims after termination. The key factors are usually: was it misconduct vs performance, did you have prior warnings, and were company policies clearly communicated. Sounds like your situation should qualify based on what you described.

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That's reassuring. I never had any formal warnings and the expectations were pretty vague from the start.

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That actually works in your favor. Shows it wasn't willful misconduct on your part.

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How important are witness statements if you have coworkers who saw what happened?

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Don't overthink it too much. I was terminated for 'poor fit' with the team and got approved for benefits no problem. Washington ESD sees these cases all the time and they know the difference between actual misconduct and just not working out at a job.

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Thanks, I needed to hear that. I've been spiraling thinking about worst case scenarios.

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Totally understand that anxiety. Focus on filing your claim and looking for new work. You'll probably be approved and can move forward.

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Update us on how it goes! I'm always curious to hear how these situations turn out. Hoping Washington ESD approves your claim quickly so you can focus on finding something better.

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Will do! Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice. Feeling much more confident about applying now.

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Good luck! You've got this. The worst part is usually the uncertainty, but it sounds like you have a solid case.

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