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What makes you ineligible for unemployment benefits in Washington ESD?

I got denied for unemployment last month and I'm trying to understand why. Washington ESD just sent me a letter saying I'm not eligible but the reasons are confusing. I worked for 18 months at my last job and got laid off due to budget cuts, so I thought I'd qualify automatically. What are the main things that can make someone ineligible for UI benefits? I want to know if I should appeal or if there's something I'm missing about the requirements.

There are several common reasons Washington ESD denies claims. The main categories are: insufficient work history/earnings, being fired for misconduct, quitting without good cause, not being able and available for work, or not meeting job search requirements. Did your denial letter specify which category applies to your situation?

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The letter mentioned something about 'insufficient base period wages' but I worked full time for over a year. How is that possible?

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The base period is specific quarters, not just any 12-18 months. It's usually the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters before you filed. If you started work recently or had gaps, you might not have enough wages in those specific quarters.

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I had this exact same issue when I first applied! Washington ESD looks at very specific time periods for your earnings. Even if you worked full time, if it wasn't during their 'base period' quarters, it doesn't count toward eligibility. You might qualify under the alternate base period though - definitely worth checking.

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How do I find out about this alternate base period? Nobody mentioned that when I applied.

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You can call Washington ESD to ask them to review your claim under the alternate base period, but good luck getting through on the phone. I tried calling for weeks.

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I've heard mixed things about those phone services. Did they actually help resolve your eligibility issue or just get you connected?

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Other common reasons for ineligibility include: being self-employed, working as an independent contractor, being fired for attendance issues or policy violations, quitting without 'good cause' (which is very specific in Washington), being unavailable for work due to school/childcare, or not actively searching for work.

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What counts as 'good cause' for quitting? I thought any reasonable reason would work.

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Washington ESD has very strict definitions. Good cause usually means unsafe working conditions, harassment, significant changes to your job that weren't agreed to, or health issues. Just being unhappy or finding a better opportunity doesn't qualify.

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Don't forget about the work search requirements! Even if you qualify initially, you can become ineligible if you don't do the required job searches each week. Washington ESD requires 3 job search activities per week and you have to log them.

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Wait, I have to do job searches even before my claim is approved? I haven't been doing that.

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Yes! You need to start the job search activities from your first week of filing, even during adjudication. Use WorkSourceWA to track your searches.

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This is why so many people get disqualified later even when their initial claim looked good. The job search thing trips up a lot of people.

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Immigration status can also affect eligibility. You need to be authorized to work in the US. Also, if you're receiving certain types of pensions or severance pay, that might impact your benefits.

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I did get a small severance package when I was laid off. Could that be affecting my claim?

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Potentially yes. Washington ESD deducts severance from your weekly benefit amount during the weeks it covers. If the severance covers too many weeks, you might be temporarily ineligible.

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The Washington ESD system is so confusing! I got denied three times before I figured out what was wrong. Each time they gave me different reasons and I had to keep appealing. It's like they don't want people to actually get benefits.

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I feel you! The whole system seems designed to discourage people. Half the time the representatives don't even know the rules properly.

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Exactly! And good luck getting consistent information if you call multiple times. Different agents tell you completely different things.

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How does that work exactly? Do they just call for you?

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They use some kind of system to get through the busy phone lines and then connect you to the agent. Way better than the endless busy signals and disconnections I was getting.

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Student status is another big one that catches people off guard. If you're enrolled in school more than half-time, you're usually not considered 'available for work' and can be ineligible for UI benefits.

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What if you're taking online classes at night but available for work during the day?

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That's a gray area. Washington ESD looks at your total course load and whether school interferes with your ability to accept full-time work. Online classes might be okay if they don't limit your availability.

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Don't overlook the 'able and available' requirement. If you have transportation issues, childcare problems, or health conditions that limit when/where you can work, Washington ESD might consider you ineligible even if you want to work.

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I do have some health issues that limit the type of work I can do. Could that be why I was denied?

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Possibly. If your health issues prevent you from accepting 'suitable work' in your field, that could affect eligibility. You might need medical documentation about your work restrictions.

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This is where it gets tricky because you need to be available for work but also not required to take any job that might worsen a health condition.

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Criminal background can also impact eligibility in some cases, especially if you're in a field that requires background checks or licensing. Washington ESD doesn't automatically disqualify for criminal history, but it can limit your job prospects enough to affect the 'suitable work' determination.

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I didn't know this was a factor. How would they even know about someone's criminal history?

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They don't automatically check, but if it comes up during job search requirements or if you mention restrictions on the types of work you can accept, it becomes relevant.

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If you got laid off due to budget cuts like you mentioned, that should actually work in your favor for eligibility. Layoffs due to lack of work or company financial issues are usually not considered misconduct. Your issue is probably the base period wages thing that others mentioned.

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That's what I thought too! The layoff itself shouldn't disqualify me. I'm going to look into this base period issue more.

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Definitely do that. And if you need to talk to Washington ESD about the alternate base period, be persistent. The phone system is awful but you need to get through to someone who can review your wages properly.

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Another thing - if you worked in multiple states or for the federal government, there might be complications with your wage records. Washington ESD has to coordinate with other agencies to get your complete work history, which can cause delays or errors in eligibility determination.

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I only worked in Washington, so that shouldn't be an issue for me.

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Even within Washington, if you had multiple employers or gaps in employment, the wage reporting can get messed up. Employers sometimes report wages to the wrong quarters.

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Here's something people don't realize - if you're collecting any other type of government benefits like disability or workers comp, that can affect your unemployment eligibility. Washington ESD wants to make sure you're not double-dipping on benefits.

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What about Social Security? My mom is on Social Security but wants to work part-time.

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Social Security retirement benefits usually don't disqualify you from unemployment, but it depends on your age and work availability. Disability benefits are different and can create conflicts.

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Military service members have special rules too. If you just separated from military service, you might be eligible under different criteria, but there are also restrictions about receiving military benefits while collecting unemployment.

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Are National Guard or Reserve members treated differently?

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Yes, if Guard/Reserve duty conflicts with your availability for civilian work, it can impact eligibility. It's complicated and depends on your specific situation.

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One more thing that trips people up - if you're doing any freelance or contract work while unemployed, even just occasionally, you have to report it. Failing to report income can make you ineligible and create overpayment issues.

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How much work counts as 'occasional'? I sometimes do small tasks for neighbors.

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Any work for pay needs to be reported, regardless of how small. Washington ESD is strict about income reporting. Even $20 here and there needs to be disclosed on your weekly claims.

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This is why so many people get overpayment notices later. They didn't realize that small side gigs counted as reportable income.

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Based on everything discussed here, your best bet is to call Washington ESD and specifically ask about the alternate base period for your wages. If the regular phone line isn't working, services like Claimyr can help you actually get connected to someone who can review your specific situation.

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Thanks everyone for all the detailed info! I'm going to gather my wage information and try to get through to Washington ESD to discuss the base period issue.

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Good luck! Don't give up if the first person you talk to doesn't help. Sometimes you need to call back and get a different agent who understands the alternate base period rules better.

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