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Washington ESD - unemployment is defined as what exactly for eligibility?

I'm trying to understand Washington ESD's exact definition of unemployment for benefit eligibility. My hours got cut from 40 to 15 per week and I'm wondering if I qualify since I'm technically still employed. The Washington ESD website talks about being 'unemployed through no fault of your own' but doesn't clearly explain partial unemployment situations. Does anyone know the specific definition they use? I want to make sure I understand before I file a claim.

Washington ESD defines unemployment as being totally unemployed OR working less than full-time and earning less than your weekly benefit amount. Since your hours were cut significantly, you'd likely qualify for partial benefits. The key is that the reduction wasn't your fault.

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That's helpful! So even though I'm still working some hours, I could still be considered unemployed under their definition?

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Exactly. Partial unemployment is still unemployment in Washington ESD's eyes as long as you meet the other eligibility requirements.

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I was in a similar situation last year. Washington ESD considers you unemployed if you're available for work and actively seeking work, even if you have reduced hours. The definition includes both total and partial unemployment.

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Did you have to do job searches even though you were still working part-time?

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Yes, you still need to complete job search activities each week you claim benefits, even with partial unemployment.

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Never heard of that service before. Did it actually work to get you through to someone at Washington ESD?

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Yeah, it was surprisingly effective. Got connected within like 20 minutes instead of the usual hours of busy signals.

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Interesting, I might have to try that. I've been trying to reach them for weeks about my claim status.

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The legal definition in Washington is pretty broad. You're considered unemployed if you're without work or working less than full-time through no fault of your own. Key factors include availability for work, ability to work, and actively seeking employment.

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What about if someone quits their job? Are they considered unemployed then?

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Generally no, unless you quit for good cause. Voluntary separation usually disqualifies you from benefits.

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ugh the whole system is so confusing! why can't they just make it simple to understand what counts as unemployed???

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I know it's frustrating, but the definitions have to cover a lot of different employment situations. That's why they seem complicated.

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i guess but it shouldn't take a law degree to figure out if you qualify for unemployment

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For Washington ESD purposes, unemployment also means you must be physically able to work and available for work. If you're sick or have other limitations, that can affect your eligibility even if you meet the work history requirements.

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Good point. I assume being available means I can't turn down suitable job offers either?

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Correct. Refusing suitable work without good cause can disqualify you from benefits.

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Been dealing with Washington ESD for months and their definition seems to change depending on who you talk to lol. Some agents say one thing, others say something completely different.

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The definition itself doesn't change, but interpretation of individual situations can vary between agents unfortunately.

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That's the problem though - shouldn't there be consistency in how they apply the rules?

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I think the key thing is that Washington ESD looks at whether your unemployment is involuntary. If your employer cut your hours or laid you off, that's involuntary unemployment and you qualify.

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My employer definitely cut my hours due to slow business, so that should count as involuntary.

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Exactly. That's a textbook case of partial unemployment through no fault of your own.

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Don't forget about the monetary eligibility part too. Being unemployed by Washington ESD's definition is only half the battle - you also need sufficient work history and earnings.

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I worked full-time for over two years before the hour cuts, so I should be good on that front.

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Sounds like you'll meet both the unemployment definition and monetary requirements then.

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Had a similar question about unemployment definition and used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. The Washington ESD agent I spoke to was really helpful in explaining all the nuances. Worth trying if you need specific answers about your situation.

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How much does that service cost? I'm already tight on money with reduced hours.

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I found it worth it considering the time it saved me, but you can check their website for current info.

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The Washington ESD handbook defines unemployment pretty clearly if you can find it online. Basically covers total unemployment, partial unemployment, and all the eligibility requirements.

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I tried looking for that but the Washington ESD website is so hard to navigate. Do you have a direct link?

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Check the employer resources section on their site - they usually have the detailed definitions there.

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My understanding is that Washington defines unemployment as not having a job OR having significantly reduced work through no fault of your own. The 'no fault' part is crucial.

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What counts as 'no fault' though? Like if you get fired for performance issues?

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That would likely be considered misconduct and could disqualify you. 'No fault' usually means layoffs, hour reductions, company closures, etc.

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been unemployed for 6 months and still confused about all the definitions and requirements. washington esd makes everything so complicated

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Have you been able to get your weekly claims processed? Sometimes the initial confusion clears up once you're in the system.

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yeah my claims go through fine, just never fully understood all the technical definitions

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The Washington ESD definition also includes being registered for work with WorkSource unless you're exempt. That's part of being considered unemployed and available for work.

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I haven't registered with WorkSource yet. Is that required even for partial unemployment?

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Yes, registration is typically required for all claimants unless you have an approved exemption.

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Simple way to think about it: if you want to work more hours but can't because of circumstances beyond your control, Washington ESD considers you unemployed. Doesn't matter if it's zero hours or reduced hours.

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That's a helpful way to think about it. I definitely want to work full-time again but my employer doesn't have the hours available.

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Perfect example of partial unemployment. You should definitely file a claim.

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Used Claimyr recently to get clarification on unemployment definitions from Washington ESD. The agent explained that even one hour reduction can qualify you for partial benefits if you meet all other requirements. Really cleared things up for me.

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One hour reduction? That seems like it would hardly be worth the hassle of filing.

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Well, in my case it was more significant, but the agent said technically even small reductions can qualify you depending on your benefit amount.

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Bottom line is Washington ESD wants to know: 1) Are you without work or working less than full-time? 2) Is it through no fault of your own? 3) Are you able and available for work? If yes to all three, you meet their unemployment definition.

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That's exactly what I needed to hear. I can answer yes to all three of those questions.

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Then you should definitely file your claim. Don't wait too long since there can be delays in processing.

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Good summary. Those three questions really capture the essence of Washington ESD's unemployment definition.

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Just want to add that the unemployment definition can get tricky with contract work or gig economy jobs. Washington ESD has specific rules for those situations too.

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Yeah, I do some freelance work on the side. Does that affect my unemployment status?

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You'll need to report all earnings, but it doesn't necessarily disqualify you from partial benefits as long as you're still seeking regular employment.

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Thanks everyone for all the explanations. I feel much more confident about filing my claim now. The Washington ESD definition seemed scary at first but it's actually pretty straightforward once you break it down.

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Glad we could help! The important thing is that you understand your situation qualifies. Don't hesitate to file.

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Agreed, this thread was super helpful. Going to start my claim application today.

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