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Sofia Torres

Do you have to be laid off to get unemployment benefits in Washington?

I'm really confused about unemployment eligibility requirements. My manager keeps cutting my hours from 40 to like 15 per week, and I can barely afford rent anymore. A coworker said I might qualify for partial unemployment but I thought you had to be completely laid off to get benefits? Can someone explain what situations actually qualify for Washington ESD unemployment? I've never filed before and don't want to mess anything up.

No, you don't have to be completely laid off! Washington ESD offers partial unemployment benefits if your hours are reduced. You can work part-time and still collect UI benefits as long as you meet the requirements. The key is that the reduction in hours has to be involuntary - sounds like that's your situation.

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Really? That's such a relief! Do I need to prove that the hour reduction wasn't my choice?

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Washington ESD will verify this when they contact your employer during the claims process. Just be honest about your situation when you file.

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There are actually several ways to qualify beyond just being laid off. You can get benefits if you're fired for reasons other than misconduct, if you quit for 'good cause' (like unsafe working conditions or harassment), or if your hours are significantly reduced like in your case. The Washington ESD website has a good eligibility quiz that walks through different scenarios.

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What counts as 'good cause' for quitting? My workplace has been pretty toxic lately but I'm scared to quit without knowing if I'd qualify.

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Good cause includes things like workplace harassment, unsafe conditions, significant changes to your job duties, or if your employer violates labor laws. You'd need documentation though - emails, incident reports, etc.

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I was in a similar situation last year and qualified for partial benefits. You'll need to report your weekly earnings when you file your weekly claims, and Washington ESD will calculate how much you can receive. There's a formula they use - I think you can earn up to about $200 and still get some benefits, but don't quote me on the exact amount.

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How long did it take for your claim to get approved? I'm worried about the timing since my bills are piling up.

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Mine took about 3 weeks, but that was pretty normal processing time. If you're struggling to reach Washington ESD by phone to check on your claim status, I found this service called Claimyr that helped me get through to an actual agent. Check out claimyr.com - they have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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wait so if i quit my job i can still get unemployment? that doesnt sound right

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Only if you quit for 'good cause' - it's pretty strict criteria. You can't just quit because you don't like your job and expect to get benefits.

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oh ok that makes more sense

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For partial unemployment like your situation, you'll still need to be able and available for work and actively searching for additional employment. Washington ESD requires you to log your job search activities each week when you file your weekly claim. Don't forget about that requirement!

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Even if I'm still working part-time at my current job? That seems weird that I'd have to look for other work.

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Yes, even with partial unemployment you need to be seeking additional work to make up for the lost hours. It's part of being 'available for work' which is a basic requirement for all UI claims.

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The whole system is so confusing. I got denied twice before I figured out what I was doing wrong. Make sure you read all the instructions carefully when you file your initial claim.

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What were you doing wrong? I want to avoid making the same mistakes.

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I wasn't reporting my part-time income correctly and I misunderstood the job search requirements. Also didn't realize I needed to file weekly claims even during the waiting period.

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Another thing to consider - you might be eligible even if you've been fired, as long as it wasn't for misconduct. Being late a few times or not being good at your job isn't usually considered misconduct. Stealing, harassment, or willfully violating company policies would be though.

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What if you get fired during your probationary period? Does that count as misconduct automatically?

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No, being fired during probation isn't automatically misconduct. It's usually just not being a good fit for the role, which would still qualify you for benefits.

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I had to call Washington ESD so many times to get clarification on my eligibility. The phone system is absolutely terrible - I'd get disconnected after waiting 45 minutes. Eventually used Claimyr to get through and actually talk to someone who could explain my specific situation.

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Is Claimyr expensive? I'm already struggling financially and can't afford to pay a lot for help.

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It's worth it when you're stuck and can't get through on your own. Way cheaper than losing benefits because you can't get answers to your questions.

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Don't forget about the monetary eligibility requirements too. You need to have earned enough wages in your base period to qualify. Washington ESD looks at the first four of the last five completed quarters before you file your claim.

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How much do you need to have earned? I've been at this job for about 8 months.

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I think it's around $3,800 in your base period, but check the Washington ESD website for the exact current amounts. 8 months should be enough if you were working full-time.

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File your claim as soon as possible! Benefits are effective from the week you file, not from when you first became eligible. Don't wait thinking you need to be completely unemployed first.

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Good point! I'll start the application this weekend. Thanks everyone for all the helpful info!

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The system really needs to be more clear about partial unemployment. I see so many people who don't realize they might qualify when their hours get cut.

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Totally agree. I worked reduced hours for months before someone told me I could file for benefits.

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Make sure you understand the waiting week too. There's usually a one-week waiting period before you start receiving benefits, even if your claim is approved right away.

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So I won't get paid for the first week even if everything goes smoothly?

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Right, the first week is unpaid but you still need to file your weekly claim for that week. It's just how the system works.

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One more tip - keep detailed records of everything. Your reduced work schedule, any communications with your employer about the hour cuts, and all your job search activities. Washington ESD might ask for documentation later.

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Should I save text messages from my manager about the schedule changes?

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Absolutely! Any written communication that shows the hour reduction was your employer's decision, not yours.

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Honestly the hardest part for me was just getting started with the application. Once I understood the process it wasn't too bad, but figuring out eligibility was confusing at first.

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Yeah I've been putting it off because I was intimidated. This thread has been really helpful though!

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If your claim gets denied for any reason, don't give up! You can appeal the decision. Sometimes there are misunderstandings about the circumstances that led to your reduced hours.

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How long do you have to file an appeal?

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I think it's 30 days from when you receive the determination letter, but double-check that on the Washington ESD website.

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Last thing - if you do get approved for partial benefits, remember that you'll still need to file your weekly claims every week and report any income. Miss a week and you could lose your benefits entirely.

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What day do you have to file by each week?

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Weekly claims are typically due by Saturday for the previous week, but you can file them starting Sunday. Set a reminder on your phone so you don't forget!

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Good luck with your claim! Sounds like you have a solid case since your hours were cut involuntarily. The system exists to help people in exactly your situation.

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Thanks so much everyone! I feel way more confident about filing now. Really appreciate all the advice and encouragement.

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