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What is unemployment definition for Washington ESD claims - confused about eligibility

I'm trying to understand what exactly counts as unemployment for Washington ESD purposes. I keep seeing different definitions online and I'm getting confused about whether I qualify. I've been working part-time hours but my employer cut my schedule from 35 hours to 15 hours per week. Does this count as unemployment? Also, do I need to be completely jobless to file a claim or can I still work reduced hours? The Washington ESD website mentions something about partial unemployment but I don't really understand what that means. Can someone explain the basic definition of unemployment for filing a UI claim in Washington state?

Unemployment for Washington ESD purposes isn't just about being completely jobless. You can qualify for partial unemployment benefits if your work hours or wages have been reduced through no fault of your own. Since your employer cut your hours from 35 to 15, you might qualify for partial UI benefits. The key is that the reduction wasn't due to your performance or misconduct.

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That's helpful! So partial unemployment is a real thing? I wasn't sure if Washington ESD would even consider my situation since I'm still working some hours.

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Yes, partial unemployment is definitely recognized by Washington ESD. You'll need to report your reduced earnings when you file your weekly claims, and they'll calculate your benefit amount accordingly.

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I was in a similar situation last year. Washington ESD defines unemployment as being totally or partially unemployed through no fault of your own. You have to be able and available for work, and actively seeking work. The partial unemployment thing is legit - I got benefits when my hours were cut.

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Did you have to do job searches even though you were still working part-time? That seems weird to me.

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Yeah, you still have to meet the job search requirements even for partial unemployment. I had to document my job search activities on WorkSourceWA just like completely unemployed people.

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The job search requirement for partial unemployment always seemed backwards to me, but that's the rule.

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For Washington ESD eligibility, unemployment means you're either totally unemployed or working reduced hours/wages due to lack of work. You need to have earned enough wages in your base period, be able and available for work, and actively seeking employment. There's also a weekly benefit amount threshold - if your reduced earnings are too high, you might not qualify for any benefits that week.

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What's the base period? I keep seeing that term but don't understand what it means for my situation.

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The base period is typically the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before you file your claim. Washington ESD uses this to determine if you've earned enough wages to qualify and to calculate your weekly benefit amount.

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I've been trying to reach Washington ESD for weeks about my partial unemployment claim and keep getting busy signals. Their phone system is impossible! Has anyone found a way to actually talk to someone there? I need to understand my specific situation better.

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Really? That sounds too good to be true. I've been calling since 8am every day with no luck.

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I was skeptical too, but it actually worked. Way better than the endless busy signals and getting hung up on.

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The Washington ESD unemployment definition is pretty broad actually. You can be working and still qualify if your situation meets certain criteria. The main thing is that your unemployment has to be through no fault of your own - layoffs, hour reductions, business closures, etc. Performance issues or quitting usually disqualify you.

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My hours were definitely cut due to slow business, not my performance. Sounds like I should apply then.

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Yeah, business-related hour reductions typically qualify. Just make sure you document everything when you file your claim.

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ugh the washington esd system is so confusing!! i thought unemployment meant you had to be completely out of work but apparently thats not true?? why dont they make this clearer on their website

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The Washington ESD website does explain partial unemployment, but you have to dig for it. It's definitely not prominently displayed on the main pages.

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exactly! they should put that information front and center since so many people are in partial unemployment situations

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Just a quick note - make sure you understand the difference between voluntary and involuntary unemployment when you file with Washington ESD. If you quit your job, that's voluntary and usually disqualifies you unless you had good cause. Hour reductions by your employer are involuntary and typically qualify.

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Good point. My employer definitely cut my hours - I didn't request the reduction.

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Then you should be fine for the involuntary unemployment requirement. That's one of the basic eligibility criteria.

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The involuntary aspect is crucial. Washington ESD will investigate the circumstances of your unemployment during the adjudication process.

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One thing to keep in mind is that Washington ESD has monetary and non-monetary eligibility requirements. The unemployment definition covers the non-monetary side - why you're unemployed and your work availability. But you also need sufficient wages in your base period for the monetary side.

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I've been working steadily for over two years, so I think my wages should be sufficient. Is there a minimum amount required?

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There are minimum wage requirements, but if you've been working steadily for two years you should easily meet them. Washington ESD will calculate this automatically when you file.

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The able and available requirement is part of the unemployment definition too. You have to be physically and mentally able to work, and available for work during normal business hours. This can be tricky if you have restrictions.

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I'm definitely able and available. Still working my reduced hours and looking for additional work.

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Sounds like you meet that requirement then. Just remember you'll need to report this on your weekly claims.

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Update - I tried that Claimyr thing and actually got through to a Washington ESD agent! They explained my partial unemployment situation perfectly. Turns out I was overthinking the whole definition thing. If your hours are cut involuntarily, you're unemployed for Washington ESD purposes even if you're still working some.

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That's exactly what I needed to hear! I'm going to file my claim this week.

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Glad the Claimyr service worked for you too! It's nice to actually talk to someone who knows the rules instead of guessing.

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For anyone else confused about unemployment definitions, Washington ESD has several categories: total unemployment (no work), partial unemployment (reduced hours/wages), and even temporary unemployment (short-term layoffs). The key is that it's involuntary and you meet the other eligibility requirements.

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I didn't know there were different categories. This helps clarify things.

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Yeah, most people think unemployment is just one thing, but Washington ESD recognizes these different situations.

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The bottom line is that Washington ESD's unemployment definition is broader than most people think. If you're working less than full-time through no fault of your own, and you meet the wage and availability requirements, you're likely eligible for some benefits. Don't assume you don't qualify just because you're still working some hours.

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This thread has been incredibly helpful. I was completely wrong about what unemployment meant for Washington ESD purposes.

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Same here. I thought you had to be completely jobless to file a claim.

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That's a really common misconception. Partial unemployment benefits help a lot of people bridge the gap when their hours get cut.

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One more thing about Washington ESD unemployment definitions - you also need to be registered for work with WorkSourceWA and actively seeking employment. This applies even for partial unemployment claims. It's part of the available for work requirement.

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I'll need to register with WorkSourceWA then. Thanks for mentioning that - I would have missed it.

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Yes, definitely register as soon as you file your claim. Washington ESD checks this during their eligibility reviews.

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just wanted to say thanks for asking this question OP. i was in the same boat and thought i didnt qualify because i was still working. turns out partial unemployment is a real thing and i should have filed months ago!

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You're welcome! I'm glad this helped other people too. I had no idea partial unemployment was even a thing.

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yeah washington esd really needs to make this clearer on their website. so many people probably miss out on benefits they qualify for

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Final summary for anyone reading this later: Washington ESD unemployment includes both total and partial unemployment. You can qualify for benefits if your work hours or wages are reduced involuntarily, even if you're still working. Key requirements are having sufficient wages in your base period, being able and available for work, and actively seeking employment. The specific definition is in Washington Administrative Code if you want the legal details.

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Perfect summary. This gives me confidence to file my claim. Thanks everyone for the help!

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This thread should be pinned. Great explanation of Washington ESD unemployment definitions.

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Glad we could help clarify things. The unemployment system is confusing enough without misunderstanding the basic definitions.

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Just wanted to add that Washington ESD also considers "constructive discharge" as unemployment in some cases. This is when working conditions become so unreasonable that you're essentially forced to quit - like if your employer drastically changes your job duties, cuts your pay significantly, or creates a hostile work environment. It's still considered involuntary unemployment even though you technically quit. This might be relevant for people who think they don't qualify because they left their job voluntarily. The key is proving the employer's actions made continuing work unreasonable.

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That's really important information about constructive discharge! I had no idea that could still count as involuntary unemployment with Washington ESD. It makes sense though - if an employer makes your job impossible to keep, that's not really your choice to leave. Do you know how hard it is to prove constructive discharge? It seems like it would be your word against the employer's in most cases.

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