< Back to Washington Unemployment

Yara Nassar

Washington ESD unemployment benefits after being fired for performance issues - am I eligible?

I was terminated from my job last month due to performance issues and I'm wondering if I can still collect unemployment benefits in Washington. My supervisor said I wasn't meeting productivity targets and gave me a couple warnings before letting me go. I wasn't doing anything intentionally wrong, just struggling to keep up with the workload. Does Washington ESD consider this misconduct or can I still file for UI? I'm really stressed about paying my bills and need to know if it's worth applying.

Performance issues are generally NOT considered misconduct in Washington state. You should definitely apply for unemployment benefits. Washington ESD looks at whether you were fired for willful misconduct or just inability to do the job. If you were trying your best but couldn't meet expectations, that's usually not disqualifying.

0 coins

Thank you! That's really reassuring. I was definitely trying my best, just couldn't handle the pace they wanted.

0 coins

This is correct. I went through something similar last year and got approved for benefits after being fired for not meeting sales quotas.

0 coins

Apply right away! The worst they can do is deny you, but performance issues usually don't count as misconduct unless you were being deliberately negligent or insubordinate. Make sure to explain your side of the story when you file.

0 coins

Should I mention the warnings I received or will that hurt my case?

0 coins

Be honest about everything. Warnings for performance don't automatically disqualify you, especially if you were making genuine efforts to improve.

0 coins

I had such a hard time getting through to Washington ESD when I needed to check on my claim status after a similar situation. Spent hours on hold every day for weeks. Finally found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me get connected to an actual agent. They have this video demo that shows how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ. Made the whole process so much easier.

0 coins

How does that work exactly? I'm worried about getting stuck in phone hell when I need to talk to someone.

0 coins

They basically handle the calling and waiting for you, then connect you when an agent picks up. Saved me so much time and frustration.

0 coins

Never heard of this but sounds too good to be true. How much does something like that cost?

0 coins

Washington ESD will investigate by contacting your former employer to get their side of the story. Be prepared to explain what happened and provide any documentation you have about your performance reviews or improvement plans they gave you.

0 coins

I have copies of my performance reviews and the improvement plan they put me on. Should I submit those with my application?

0 coins

Keep them ready but don't submit unless asked. Washington ESD will request specific documents if they need them during their review process.

0 coins

whatever you do dont lie about anything on your application!!! they will find out and it will make everything worse. just be honest about being fired for performance

0 coins

Definitely planning to be completely honest. I'm just nervous about how to word everything.

0 coins

Just stick to the facts - you were terminated for not meeting performance standards despite your efforts to improve.

0 coins

The key distinction Washington ESD makes is between 'misconduct' and 'inability to perform.' Misconduct is willful - like stealing, being drunk at work, or deliberately not following rules. Poor performance due to lack of skills or ability is not misconduct.

0 coins

This is exactly right. I used to work in HR and we had to document willful behavior to successfully contest unemployment claims.

0 coins

That makes me feel a lot better. I was never written up for attitude or rule violations, just productivity.

0 coins

I'm skeptical about these calling services but honestly after spending 3 weeks trying to reach Washington ESD about my adjudication, I tried Claimyr and it actually worked. Got through to someone same day who explained why my claim was held up.

0 coins

Was it expensive? I'm already worried about money.

0 coins

Worth it for me considering how much time it saved. Much cheaper than missing work to sit on hold all day.

0 coins

Also remember you need to file weekly claims even while your initial claim is being processed. Don't wait for approval to start the weekly certification process or you could lose benefits for those weeks.

0 coins

Good point! I'll make sure to do that right away.

0 coins

Yes this is important! I made this mistake and lost 2 weeks of benefits because I thought I had to wait.

0 coins

File your claim ASAP because there's a waiting week anyway. Even if you're not sure about eligibility, get the process started. You can always appeal if they deny you initially.

0 coins

How long does the whole process usually take?

0 coins

If there are no issues, about 2-3 weeks. If they need to investigate your separation, it could take 4-6 weeks.

0 coins

I was in almost the exact same situation - fired for not meeting sales targets after 6 months of trying. Washington ESD approved my claim without any issues. Your employer would have to prove you were deliberately underperforming to contest it successfully.

0 coins

Did your employer try to contest your claim?

0 coins

They did initially but couldn't prove willful misconduct so Washington ESD ruled in my favor. The whole process took about 5 weeks.

0 coins

Make sure you understand the job search requirements too. You'll need to register with WorkSource and document your job search activities once you start receiving benefits.

0 coins

How many jobs do I need to apply for each week?

0 coins

It's 3 job search activities per week in Washington, but they can include more than just applications - networking, job fairs, etc.

0 coins

honestly the washington esd system is such a mess right now. took me forever to even get my account set up properly and then when i had questions nobody answers the phone

0 coins

That's exactly why I ended up using Claimyr. The regular phone system is basically useless during busy periods.

0 coins

might have to look into that if i run into more problems

0 coins

One more thing - if you do get approved, your weekly benefit amount will be based on your wages from your base period (usually the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters). Performance issues shouldn't affect your benefit calculation at all.

0 coins

That's good to know. I was there almost 2 years so I should have a decent base period.

0 coins

Don't let your employer intimidate you either. Some places tell people they can't get unemployment when they fire them but that's not how it works. Washington ESD makes the determination, not your former employer.

0 coins

My manager did say something about me not being eligible but I wasn't sure if that was accurate.

0 coins

Employers say that all the time to discourage people from filing. Don't listen to them - file your claim and let Washington ESD decide.

0 coins

Keep detailed records of everything - when you file, what questions they ask, any correspondence. If you end up needing to appeal anything later, documentation is crucial.

0 coins

Good advice. I'll start a folder with all my unemployment paperwork.

0 coins

Performance terminations are actually pretty common and most get approved for UI benefits. The system would be overwhelmed if everyone fired for not being good enough at their job was denied benefits.

0 coins

That makes logical sense. I was starting to think I was doomed because I got fired.

0 coins

Nope! Being fired doesn't automatically disqualify you unless it was for serious misconduct.

0 coins

if your claim gets stuck in adjudication like mine did, thats when you really need to be able to talk to someone at washington esd. regular calling is hopeless but that claimyr service actually works

0 coins

How long was your claim in adjudication?

0 coins

3 weeks before i used claimyr, then got it resolved within 2 days of talking to an agent

0 coins

Bottom line - file your claim today. Performance issues rarely count as disqualifying misconduct in Washington state. You paid into the system and you deserve benefits if you're eligible.

0 coins

You're right. I'm going to file online tonight. Thanks everyone for the encouragement and advice!

0 coins

Good luck! Feel free to update us on how it goes.

0 coins

Washington Unemployment AI

Expert Assistant
Secure

Powered by Claimyr AI

T
I
+
20,087 users helped today