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If you are terminated are you eligible for unemployment - Washington ESD question

I got terminated from my job last Friday and I'm not sure if I can apply for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. My supervisor said it was due to performance issues but I feel like they were just looking for reasons to let me go. I've been working there for almost 2 years and never had any written warnings or formal disciplinary actions. Can I still file for UI benefits even though I was terminated? I've heard conflicting information about this and I'm really stressed about paying my bills next month.

Yes, you can definitely apply for unemployment benefits even if you were terminated. Washington ESD will review your case to determine if the termination was for misconduct or just poor performance. Performance issues usually don't disqualify you unless there was willful misconduct involved. Since you didn't have any written warnings, that actually works in your favor.

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That's really helpful to know! Should I apply right away or wait? I'm worried they might deny my claim.

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Apply immediately. Even if Washington ESD needs to investigate, you want your claim date to start as soon as possible. The worst they can do is deny it, but you can always appeal their decision.

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I went through something similar last year. Got fired for 'attitude problems' but Washington ESD approved my benefits after about 3 weeks of adjudication. The key is being honest on your application about what happened. Don't try to sugarcoat it, just explain your side of the story clearly.

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How long did the whole process take for you? I'm really anxious about this.

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From filing to getting my first payment was about 5 weeks total. The adjudication part took the longest because they had to contact my former employer.

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5 weeks is pretty standard for adjudication cases. Sometimes it can take longer if Washington ESD is backed up.

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Actually had luck using Claimyr to get through to Washington ESD when my claim was in adjudication for weeks. They have this service at claimyr.com that helps you actually reach a real person at Washington ESD instead of sitting on hold for hours. There's even a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Saved me so much frustration trying to get updates on my claim status.

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Is that actually legit? I've never heard of services like that before.

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Yeah it's real. They basically call Washington ESD for you and get you connected to an agent. Way better than trying to call yourself and getting the busy signal all day.

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I was skeptical too but ended up using them when I couldn't get through to resolve an issue with my weekly claims. Actually worked pretty well.

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ugh the whole system is so messed up. I got denied initially for a termination and had to appeal. Took MONTHS to get it sorted out. Washington ESD doesn't care about regular people trying to survive.

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Did you end up winning your appeal? That sounds awful.

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Yeah eventually but it was a nightmare. Had to provide all kinds of documentation and go to a hearing. At least I got backpay for all those weeks.

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Just to clarify the rules - Washington ESD will deny benefits if you were terminated for misconduct, but not for poor performance or inability to do the job. Misconduct means willful violation of company rules or deliberate actions that harm the employer. Being bad at your job isn't misconduct.

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What about if you were late a lot? Would that count as misconduct?

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Chronic tardiness could be considered misconduct if you were warned about it and continued anyway. It depends on the circumstances and whether you had a valid reason.

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This is why documentation is so important. If there's no written record of warnings, it's harder for the employer to prove misconduct.

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Make sure you have all your employment documents ready when you apply. Pay stubs, termination letter, any emails or written communications about your performance. Washington ESD might ask for this stuff during the adjudication process.

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I don't have a termination letter, they just told me verbally. Is that going to be a problem?

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Not necessarily, but try to get something in writing about your last day and reason for termination. Even an email would help.

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Just file the claim and see what happens. I know someone who got fired for missing too much work but still got approved because they had medical reasons. Washington ESD looks at each case individually.

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That gives me some hope. I really didn't do anything wrong, just wasn't meeting their unrealistic expectations.

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Unrealistic expectations definitely don't count as misconduct. You should be fine.

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The adjudication process can be really stressful. I remember calling Washington ESD dozens of times trying to get an update on my case. Someone mentioned Claimyr earlier and honestly that's probably your best bet if you need to actually talk to someone at Washington ESD. Their phone system is impossible otherwise.

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How much does something like Claimyr cost though? I'm already worried about money.

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I think it's pretty reasonable for what you get. Way cheaper than missing weeks of benefits because you can't get through to fix an issue.

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Don't let them intimidate you into not applying. Employers sometimes try to scare people by saying they'll fight the unemployment claim, but most of the time they don't even respond to Washington ESD's requests for information.

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My former employer seemed pretty vindictive when they fired me, so I'm worried they'll try to block my benefits.

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Even if they do respond, you still have a good chance if you weren't actually guilty of misconduct. Don't let fear stop you from getting benefits you're entitled to.

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I got terminated for 'not being a good fit' which is basically the same as performance issues. Washington ESD approved my claim without any problems. The fact that you worked there for 2 years shows you weren't completely incompetent.

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That's exactly what I was thinking! If I was really that bad they would have fired me way sooner.

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Exactly. Length of employment definitely works in your favor during adjudication.

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Whatever you do, don't wait to apply. I made that mistake and lost out on a week of benefits because I was scared. You can always withdraw the application if you change your mind, but you can't backdate it if you wait too long.

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Good point. I'll apply this weekend when I have time to fill everything out properly.

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Actually you should apply online right now if possible. The sooner you get it submitted, the sooner your benefit year starts.

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Been there done that. Got fired from a retail job for not meeting sales quotas even though I was trying my best. Washington ESD didn't even question it, approved me right away. Performance issues are definitely not misconduct.

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That makes me feel so much better. I was really worried they'd automatically deny anyone who got fired.

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Nope, getting fired doesn't automatically disqualify you. It's all about the reason for termination.

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If you do end up needing to talk to Washington ESD during the process, I'd definitely recommend that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. I tried calling on my own for weeks and never got through. Used their service and was talking to someone at Washington ESD within an hour.

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I might need to look into that if my claim gets stuck in adjudication. Thanks for the recommendation.

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Yeah their phone system is designed to keep people out. Having a service that actually gets you through is worth it.

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Remember you also need to start doing your job search activities right away even if your claim is still being reviewed. Washington ESD requires you to be actively looking for work to qualify for benefits.

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How many jobs do I need to apply for each week? I haven't looked at the requirements yet.

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I think it's 3 job search activities per week minimum. Could be applications, networking events, job fairs, etc. Keep good records of everything you do.

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Make sure you register with WorkSource too. That's usually one of the requirements Washington ESD has.

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The whole process is honestly easier than people make it sound. I was terminated for attendance issues and still got approved after adjudication. As long as you're honest and cooperative, Washington ESD is pretty fair about these things.

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That's reassuring. I've been reading horror stories online and getting really anxious about the whole thing.

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Don't believe everything you read online. Most people only post when they have problems, not when things go smoothly.

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