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Washington ESD unemployment benefits - can you get unemployment if you get fired?

I got terminated from my job last week and I'm wondering if I can still qualify for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. My supervisor said it was due to poor performance but I feel like the expectations weren't clearly communicated. I've been working there for almost 2 years and never had any formal write-ups or warnings. Can you still get UI benefits if you were fired? I'm really stressed about how I'm going to pay my bills while looking for another job.

Yes, you can potentially get unemployment benefits even if you were fired, but it depends on the reason for termination. Washington ESD will determine if you were discharged for 'misconduct' or not. Poor performance usually doesn't count as misconduct unless it was willful or you ignored clear instructions repeatedly.

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That's a relief to hear. How do I prove it wasn't misconduct? I don't have any documentation from HR about warnings or anything.

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When you file your claim, you'll explain your side of the story. If your employer contests it, Washington ESD will investigate both sides. Keep any emails or documents you have about your job performance.

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I was in a similar situation last year - got fired for 'not meeting expectations' but still got approved for benefits. The key is that Washington ESD looks at whether you intentionally violated company policy or were just struggling with the job requirements.

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How long did it take for them to make a decision on your claim?

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Mine took about 3 weeks because my employer initially contested it. They had to do an adjudication review to determine if I was eligible.

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File your claim immediately - don't wait! Even if there's a dispute, you want to get the process started. I spent weeks trying to contact Washington ESD directly but kept getting busy signals and disconnected calls. Finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me get through to an actual agent. They have this video demo thing (https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ) that shows how it works.

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Never heard of that service before. Is it legit? I'm desperate to talk to someone at Washington ESD about my situation.

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Yeah it's real, they basically help you get through the phone queue. I was skeptical at first but it worked and I finally got to speak with someone who could explain my claim status.

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Interesting, might have to check that out. I've been calling Washington ESD for weeks with no luck getting through.

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The Washington ESD website has a section about misconduct vs non-misconduct terminations. Generally, things like poor performance, inability to do the job, or personality conflicts don't count as misconduct. But stealing, fighting, or repeatedly violating clear policies would.

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That makes sense. I definitely wasn't stealing or fighting, just couldn't seem to meet their productivity standards despite trying my best.

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Same here - got fired for 'low sales numbers' but still qualified for UI. Performance issues aren't the same as willful misconduct.

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ugh the whole system is so confusing!! I got fired 2 months ago and STILL waiting to hear back about my claim. Keep calling but can never get through to anyone at Washington ESD who can explain what's taking so long.

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Two months is a long time for adjudication. Have you checked your online account to see if there are any issues that need to be resolved?

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yeah checked it like 100 times, just says 'under review' with no other info. So frustrating!

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That's exactly why I ended up using Claimyr - was in the same boat with no updates on my claim status. Finally got through and found out what was holding things up.

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When you file, be honest about the circumstances but don't make yourself sound incompetent. Focus on lack of training or unrealistic expectations rather than admitting you couldn't do the job.

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Good point about framing it properly. I do think the training was inadequate and the goals they set were unrealistic for someone new to that type of work.

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Exactly - emphasize any factors outside your control that contributed to the performance issues.

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File online through the Washington ESD website, it's faster than calling. But if your employer contests your claim, be prepared for it to take several weeks while they investigate.

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Do most employers contest these claims? I'm worried my old boss will try to fight it just to be spiteful.

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Some do, some don't. Depends on the company and whether they think they have a strong case for misconduct.

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My employer contested mine initially but dropped it once Washington ESD started asking for documentation they couldn't provide.

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The worst part about getting fired is not knowing if you'll qualify for benefits. I was laid off so it was automatic, but being terminated adds so much uncertainty to an already stressful situation.

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Exactly! The job loss is bad enough without worrying about whether I'll have any income while job hunting.

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tell me about it, been living off savings for 2 months waiting for this claim to get resolved

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One thing to keep in mind - even if you're initially denied, you have the right to appeal the decision. Many people win on appeal if they can provide additional evidence or clarification about the circumstances.

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How does the appeal process work? Is it complicated?

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You file the appeal online or by mail within 30 days. Then there's usually a phone hearing where you can present your case to an administrative law judge.

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I had to go through the appeal process and won. The key is having your documentation organized and being able to clearly explain what happened.

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Whatever you do, don't wait to file thinking you might not qualify. File immediately and let Washington ESD make the determination. The worst that can happen is they say no, but at least you'll know for sure.

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You're right, I should stop overthinking it and just file. Thanks for the encouragement!

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Agreed - I wasted two weeks debating whether to file after I got terminated. Should have just done it right away.

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My cousin got fired for attendance issues and still got benefits because she had documented medical reasons for the absences. Context matters a lot in these decisions.

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That's interesting. I don't have medical issues but there were definitely circumstances at work that made it harder to succeed.

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Yeah document everything you can remember about lack of support, unclear expectations, anything that shows it wasn't willful poor performance.

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THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST WORKERS!! They make it so hard to get benefits even when you deserve them. Employers can just claim 'misconduct' for anything and make your life hell.

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I understand the frustration, but Washington ESD does investigate both sides. Employers can't just make baseless claims without evidence.

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Maybe in theory but in practice it feels like they always side with the employer first and make you fight to prove your innocence

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I had the opposite experience - they were pretty fair in reviewing the facts of my termination.

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Got fired from retail job last month for 'poor customer service' - still got approved for UI. As long as you weren't being deliberately rude or violating clear policies, performance issues usually don't disqualify you.

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That gives me hope. I really was trying my best at the job, just couldn't seem to hit their targets consistently.

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Same situation for me - kept trying but the metrics they wanted were honestly unrealistic for most people.

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Update on that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier - just wanted to say it really did help me get answers about my claim faster than trying to call repeatedly on my own. Might be worth considering if you need to speak with Washington ESD directly about your situation.

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Did you end up getting your benefits approved? Still thinking about trying that service myself.

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Yeah, once I was able to speak with an agent and explain my situation properly, they cleared up the issue holding up my claim.

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might have to try this, getting desperate to talk to someone about my claim that's been stuck for months

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File your weekly claims even while the initial determination is pending! I made the mistake of waiting and lost out on a week of benefits because I didn't realize you're supposed to keep filing.

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Oh wow, I didn't know that. So I should file weekly claims even before I know if I'm approved?

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Yes, exactly! The weekly claims establish your benefit weeks. If you're approved later, you'll get paid for those weeks retroactively.

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This is correct - always file your weekly claims to preserve your benefit weeks, even during adjudication.

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been through this whole process twice now - first time took 2 weeks, second time took over a month because employer contested it more aggressively. just depends on your specific situation and how much documentation they have

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What kind of documentation helped you the most in proving your case?

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emails showing lack of clear guidance, witness statements from coworkers, anything showing you were trying to improve performance

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The job search requirements kick in once you're approved, so start keeping track of your applications even while waiting for the determination. You'll need to show you're actively looking for work.

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Good reminder - I've been applying to jobs anyway but should start keeping better records of my applications.

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Yeah you need to log into WorkSourceWA and track your job search activities. It's required to maintain eligibility.

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honestly the hardest part is the emotional stress of not knowing if you'll have income. the actual filing process isn't that complicated once you get started

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That's exactly how I'm feeling right now. The uncertainty is almost worse than losing the job itself.

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yep, the waiting and not knowing is killing me. wish they would just make decisions faster

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hang in there, it does get resolved eventually. just try to stay on top of the process and don't let it consume your thoughts

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Final advice - document everything from your termination meeting, keep all emails and performance reviews, and file your claim as soon as possible. Washington ESD looks at the totality of circumstances, not just the fact that you were fired. Good luck!

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Thank you so much for all the helpful advice! I'm going to file my claim tonight and start the process. Feeling much more confident now.

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You've got this! The process seems scary at first but it's manageable once you get started.

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And remember, if you need to speak with Washington ESD directly about your claim, services like Claimyr can help you get through faster than calling repeatedly.

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