Washington ESD says I'm not eligible for unemployment - need to understand why
I got a determination letter from Washington ESD saying I'm not eligible for unemployment benefits and I'm honestly confused about why. I worked at a restaurant for 8 months before getting laid off last month due to slow business. I thought I had enough work history but apparently not? The letter mentions something about 'insufficient wages' but doesn't really explain what that means. Has anyone else dealt with this? I need to know if I should appeal or if there's something I'm missing about the eligibility requirements.
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CosmicCaptain
Washington ESD has specific wage requirements you need to meet. You need to have earned at least $7,000 in your base period (first 4 of the last 5 quarters before you filed). Did you work anywhere else before the restaurant job?
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Emma Davis
•I only worked at the restaurant for those 8 months. Before that I was a student so no other work history. Does that mean I don't qualify at all?
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CosmicCaptain
•That's probably why you got denied. 8 months might not be enough to meet the minimum wage requirement depending on your hours and pay rate.
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Malik Johnson
same thing happened to me when i first tried to file. the base period thing is confusing but basically they look at your earnings from a specific time period not just your most recent job
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Emma Davis
•So even though I worked full time at the restaurant it doesn't matter if I didn't work long enough?
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Malik Johnson
•exactly. its about total wages earned in the base period not just how long you worked your last job
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Isabella Ferreira
You should definitely appeal if you think Washington ESD made an error. But first, calculate your total wages during your base period. If you started the restaurant job in say March 2024 and filed in December 2024, your base period would be July 2023 through June 2024. Any wages earned during that time count toward eligibility.
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Emma Davis
•That's the problem - I was in school during most of 2023 so I probably don't have enough wages from that period.
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Isabella Ferreira
•Then you might want to look into the alternate base period option. Sometimes Washington ESD can use a different time frame that might work better for your situation.
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Ravi Sharma
I had this exact problem last year and couldn't get through to anyone at Washington ESD to explain my options. After weeks of trying to call, I found this service called Claimyr that actually got me connected to an agent who walked me through the alternate base period calculation. Check out claimyr.com - they have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.
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Emma Davis
•Did that actually help you get approved? I'm willing to try anything at this point.
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Ravi Sharma
•Yes! Turns out I was eligible under the alternate base period but Washington ESD didn't automatically check that. The agent helped me request a redetermination.
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Freya Thomsen
•How much does that service cost? I'm already strapped for cash since I can't get unemployment.
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Omar Zaki
The Washington ESD system is so frustrating with these eligibility requirements. They make it seem like everyone who loses their job can get benefits but then hit you with all these technical rules.
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Emma Davis
•Right? I wish they would just explain this stuff better upfront instead of sending confusing denial letters.
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AstroAce
•agreed the whole system is designed to confuse people and make them give up
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CosmicCaptain
Before you appeal, make sure you understand exactly why you were denied. There are different reasons for ineligibility - insufficient wages, voluntary quit, misconduct, etc. Each has different appeal strategies.
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Emma Davis
•The letter specifically says 'insufficient wages in base period' so I think that's the issue.
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CosmicCaptain
•Then focus your appeal on requesting the alternate base period calculation. That's your best shot at getting approved.
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Chloe Martin
I'm dealing with something similar. Got denied even though I worked for 2 years but apparently I didn't earn enough in the right quarters. This whole base period thing is ridiculous.
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Emma Davis
•Did you try appealing? I'm trying to figure out if it's worth the hassle.
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Chloe Martin
•Still waiting to hear back on my appeal. Filed it 3 weeks ago and haven't heard anything yet.
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Isabella Ferreira
For anyone reading this thread, the key eligibility requirements in Washington are: 1) You must have worked in at least two quarters of your base period, 2) You must have earned at least $7,000 total in your base period, and 3) You must have earned at least $3,500 in your highest quarter. If you don't meet these, you might qualify under the alternate base period which uses more recent quarters.
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Emma Davis
•This is super helpful! I definitely didn't know about the alternate base period option.
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Diego Rojas
•wish they would put this information somewhere easy to find instead of burying it in legal documents
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Anastasia Sokolov
Been there. The wage requirements are really strict especially for people who are just starting their careers. I got denied my first time too but was able to get approved after working a few more months.
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Emma Davis
•So I might need to wait and work more before I can qualify? That's frustrating since I need help now.
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Anastasia Sokolov
•Not necessarily - definitely try the alternate base period first. But yeah, the timing of when you file matters a lot.
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Sean O'Donnell
ugh this whole thread is making me anxious about my own claim. i filed last week and haven't heard anything yet but now im worried i might not qualify either
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Isabella Ferreira
•Don't stress too much. If you worked steadily for at least a year before filing, you're probably fine. The issues come up more with people who have gaps in employment or just started working.
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Sean O'Donnell
•ok that makes me feel a little better. i worked for 3 years at my last job so hopefully thats enough
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Zara Ahmed
I actually used Claimyr too after getting a confusing denial letter. The agent I spoke with was really knowledgeable about Washington ESD rules and helped me understand exactly what was wrong with my claim. Worth checking out if you can't get through on your own.
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Emma Davis
•How quickly were you able to get connected to someone? I've been trying to call Washington ESD for days.
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Zara Ahmed
•They got me connected within a few hours which was amazing compared to the weeks I spent trying on my own.
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StarStrider
The restaurant industry is tough for unemployment eligibility because a lot of workers are part-time or seasonal. Even if you worked full-time for 8 months, if your hourly wage was low you might not have hit the minimum wage requirements.
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Emma Davis
•I was making $15/hour which seemed decent but maybe not enough for Washington ESD standards?
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StarStrider
•It's not about the hourly rate, it's about total wages earned. $15/hour for 8 months might get you close but depends on your exact hours and when you started.
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Luca Esposito
File the appeal anyway. Worst case scenario you get denied again but at least you'll have tried. The appeal process sometimes reveals information that wasn't clear in the original determination.
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Emma Davis
•How long do I have to file an appeal? I don't want to miss the deadline.
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Luca Esposito
•You have 30 days from the date on your determination letter. Don't wait too long.
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Nia Thompson
honestly the Washington ESD website is terrible at explaining this stuff. took me forever to figure out what base period even meant
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Emma Davis
•Right? I had to Google it because their explanation made no sense.
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Mateo Rodriguez
I went through this exact situation 2 years ago. Got denied initially but the alternate base period calculation saved me. Definitely worth requesting that review before giving up.
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Emma Davis
•Did you have to provide any additional documentation for the alternate base period review?
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Mateo Rodriguez
•They already had my wage information from employers so no additional documents needed. Just had to request the review.
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Aisha Abdullah
The system is definitely frustrating but don't give up too easily. A lot of people who get initially denied actually do qualify once they understand the rules better or get the right calculation done.
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Emma Davis
•Thanks for the encouragement. I'm definitely going to try the alternate base period route.
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Ethan Wilson
I tried using that Claimyr service someone mentioned and it actually worked great. Finally got to talk to someone at Washington ESD who could explain my specific situation instead of just reading generic information online.
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Emma Davis
•I'm seriously considering it at this point. Seems like a lot of people have had success with it.
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Ethan Wilson
•Yeah, way better than sitting on hold for hours just to get disconnected. The video demo on their site explains it pretty well.
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NeonNova
Good luck with your appeal! The restaurant industry workers often face these eligibility issues but there are usually solutions available. Don't let the initial denial discourage you from exploring all your options.
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Emma Davis
•Thank you! This thread has been really helpful in understanding what my next steps should be.
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NeonNova
•Glad we could help. Hope you get approved on the alternate base period calculation!
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